minespatch Posted February 11, 2018 Share Posted February 11, 2018 Something's bugging me. Maxwell was pulled into the Codex in 1906 but the language in the Codex is Latin. A Roman language. Does this mean that the Codex has been dropped to people across the ages and earliest in Rome? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/87432-the-codex-and-latin-language/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
6480 Posted February 11, 2018 Share Posted February 11, 2018 The Ancients are descended from Romans that got pulled into the Codex by its creator, and then the book was lost until Maxwell found it? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/87432-the-codex-and-latin-language/#findComment-1002566 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Tarunio Posted February 11, 2018 Share Posted February 11, 2018 All i know is i need to get resources with it ;> (no hate please qwq) Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/87432-the-codex-and-latin-language/#findComment-1002575 Share on other sites More sharing options...
b1b3r0n Posted February 11, 2018 Share Posted February 11, 2018 2 hours ago, minespatch said: A Roman language. Does this mean that the Codex has been dropped to people across the ages and earliest in Rome? Well Latin was speaked by a lot of people: - first by Antic Romans - official language of Roman Empire, spread to all Europe, evolving to Italian, French, Spanish, Portuguese... - Latin was the Language of Roman Catoholic Church. Bibles were wrote by monks, in Latin (remember Umberto Eco Name of the Rose) - Latin was spoken by nobles - From Renaissance, became the language of scientist and famous intelectuals Because the Codex is a book, I was more thinking of medieval Era, the first book was a Bible published by Gutenberg in 1455. BUT it's call a Codex, and a Codex can be scrolls join together, and is a lot older: Woodie quote says: Trees made into... paper? , and, from wiki, " the first use of paper made from wood pulp dates from 1800 " , before it was made from papyrus, hemp, linen or other techniques (China)... funny seeing you need papyrus to craft the book Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/87432-the-codex-and-latin-language/#findComment-1002618 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Footman Crouch Posted February 11, 2018 Share Posted February 11, 2018 2 hours ago, jantonio said: All i know is i need to get resources with it ;> (no hate please qwq) Nothing like using the most powerful book ever existed as your manual labors. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/87432-the-codex-and-latin-language/#findComment-1002638 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sinister_Fang Posted February 11, 2018 Share Posted February 11, 2018 25 minutes ago, DarithD said: Nothing like using the most powerful book ever existed as your manual labors. Or for magic tricks. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/87432-the-codex-and-latin-language/#findComment-1002643 Share on other sites More sharing options...
axxel Posted February 11, 2018 Share Posted February 11, 2018 Yes papyrus originated from ancient egypt, and we know about the affair Caesar <-> Cleopatra. So we could make a connection. It's just a theory, I think the Codey Umbra is just a enchanted book. Maxwell can craft a copy of it in DST, so the magic just needs a vessel. For comparision: in the Bible the text itself is sacred, not the book itself. So what really matters is the text/symbols of the Codex Umbra, and every copy ( and maybe a ritual as Maxwell needs to sacrifice HP to craft this) of the writing has the same effect to the book like the relict. So what Woodie said may be coincidence and the current copy of the book was made of paper. Various sorts of paper can have problems to survive a millennium and old ones will destroyed if they aren't restored. So what 6490 said is a possible solution why the book was written in Latin, but the ancients aren't very humanlike. b1b3r0n said Latin is used by scientists. So you can go to the Constant(?) by scientific means (radio, protal). It's hard to decide who had written the Codex Umbra and I am to lazy to search the old puzzles for clues now. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/87432-the-codex-and-latin-language/#findComment-1002647 Share on other sites More sharing options...
b1b3r0n Posted February 11, 2018 Share Posted February 11, 2018 1 hour ago, axxel said: It's just a theory, I think the Codey Umbra is just a enchanted book. . Necronomicodex Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/87432-the-codex-and-latin-language/#findComment-1002676 Share on other sites More sharing options...
axxel Posted February 11, 2018 Share Posted February 11, 2018 9 minutes ago, b1b3r0n said: Necronomicodex I wonder if this may lead to a world where fiction or a dream becomes reality, like Maxwell created some creatures plkus the stage where he acted looked like the grassland biome. A quick look on the morals of the Matheus puzzle - it depicts bees and carrots, carrots and honey were novelty food in acient times (however the roots came from Persia), so the gems are luxury. Howerer, it's too early to decide on this. We could also assume that the "game earth" have a portal to other planets/worlds (Do you Stargate? Like this.). Ancient people happened to have connection to the Ancients - either the old portal was destroyed or missing, the key is lost or whatever. It's up to the devs to give us more informations. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/87432-the-codex-and-latin-language/#findComment-1002689 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rellimarual Posted February 11, 2018 Share Posted February 11, 2018 Europeans wrote in Latin for centuries after anyone stopped speaking it because it was the universal language of scholarship in that part of the world and the different European nations all spoke different languages. People still learned it in fancy schools up until pretty recently, but they didn’t speak it. A book can be a codex or a scroll, but not both. “Codex” just means the type of book made by sewing a stack of sheets of paper, parchment or whatever together. So the Codex Umbra being in Latin just signifies that it’s an old book of European origin. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/87432-the-codex-and-latin-language/#findComment-1002708 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fuffles Posted February 11, 2018 Share Posted February 11, 2018 Well Roman fits because of the Greek Muse Statue (Yes I know I said Greek, Greeks and Romans were connected), ia the Queen Figure, not to forget Marble was a popular choice by Romans and Greeks. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/87432-the-codex-and-latin-language/#findComment-1002769 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zhuzha Posted February 11, 2018 Share Posted February 11, 2018 Maybe the book is enchanted/psychic/whatever you call it, and while its contents remain the same, the language they're written in changes, depending on what current Codex's user believes magical books should be written in. As many people above me said, Latin was considered to be a language of scholars for hundreds of years, so some hapless wannabe magician from 1900s could have expected a book full of forbidden knowledge to be in Latin. Or maybe "Codex Umbra" is just what Maxwell calls it, because he's a giant nerd, who wanted a fancy Latin title for his book of spells. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/87432-the-codex-and-latin-language/#findComment-1002770 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maslak Posted February 11, 2018 Share Posted February 11, 2018 How is it written in latin? All we know are these chunks and single words from what I remember. In my opinion they are in latin to make it cool and mysterious. And english would mean no mystery, ofc. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/87432-the-codex-and-latin-language/#findComment-1002794 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sinister_Fang Posted February 11, 2018 Share Posted February 11, 2018 7 hours ago, Maslak said: How is it written in latin? All we know are these chunks and single words from what I remember. In my opinion they are in latin to make it cool and mysterious. And english would mean no mystery, ofc. We've also seen symbols that could have potentially been another language altogether. Perhaps it could be a language belonging to the Ancients, or possibly Them? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/87432-the-codex-and-latin-language/#findComment-1002924 Share on other sites More sharing options...
minespatch Posted February 12, 2018 Author Share Posted February 12, 2018 5 hours ago, Sinister_Fang said: We've also seen symbols that could have potentially been another language altogether. Perhaps it could be a language belonging to the Ancients, or possibly Them? I was only bringing up Latin due to what I've seen in the puzzles and Website titles. You're onto other languages, we might find more linguistics in the future but I wanted to make this thread since the words I've seen in the book seem to single on a timeline but maybe I'm wrong? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/87432-the-codex-and-latin-language/#findComment-1003049 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Mulk Posted February 12, 2018 Share Posted February 12, 2018 23 hours ago, minespatch said: Something's bugging me. Maxwell was pulled into the Codex in 1906 but the language in the Codex is Latin. A Roman language. Does this mean that the Codex has been dropped to people across the ages and earliest in Rome? I'd like to think the book has magic which warps its language to the reader itself. This would make sense for it to be Latin, it's an ancient, mysterious language which would likely lure any normal unsuspecting person, even if a lot of people can't read it. I mean, it'd be a lot less cool if it was just English. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/87432-the-codex-and-latin-language/#findComment-1003084 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rellimarual Posted February 12, 2018 Share Posted February 12, 2018 Honestly, I don’t think Latin is especially mysterious. It’s the basis of most Western languages, including English, and people still study it in school. I have a couple of friends who were Latin majors or minors. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/87432-the-codex-and-latin-language/#findComment-1003240 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maslak Posted February 12, 2018 Share Posted February 12, 2018 Quidquid Latine dictum sit, altum videtur Per rectum ad cor Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/87432-the-codex-and-latin-language/#findComment-1003245 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpikeGuy Posted February 12, 2018 Share Posted February 12, 2018 Personally, I think that Latin is just Maxwell's preferred language for dealing with magical stuff (and a general motif for him, in contrast to Charlie's Greek), since I don't think he'd have such a hard time translating Latin, given how widely known it was in the educated world. (It also makes more sense for him to scrawl translated symbols all over the room than untranslated excerpts). Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/87432-the-codex-and-latin-language/#findComment-1003257 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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