GangStarrWoWp Posted March 31, 2016 Share Posted March 31, 2016 Am I missing something or is the Night Light completely useless the way it is now? It provides the same function as a Fire/Endothermic Fire Pit as far as lighting goes but does it worse since it has no temperature bonuses. Also the insanity aura it provides isn't significant enough to be used for anything either, it's only -3sanity per minute meaning it's an extremely inefficient way to go insane if you needed to (Eating a few Glommer's Goop or a couple of raw green mushrooms does the same thing in an instant, and is less complicated). It seems to me like it serves no actual purpose unless I missed something that somebody can point out. I'd like to see a discussion on what people think about this thing and possible suggestions on how to make this item good. I've thought of 2 ways this structure can be changed so that it's more unique and has a purpose - not just a worse version of a Fire Pit: 1. Make it so that it goes out in the daytime (it's a "Night Light" ya know) and any fuel that wasn't used up in the previous night lights it back up and continues to burn again next night. So if any Nightmare Fuel is placed in it during Day/Dusk nothing will happen but that fuel will be saved for the night, and as soon as night comes it will turn on automatically and start using up the fuel. 2. Change the crafting cost for it from 2 nightmare fuel to 20 nightmare fuel(or more - this is just an idea) and make it so that it's on forever, with no need of re-filling, possibly draining more sanity in return as well. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/65923-night-light-usefulness/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rily Posted March 31, 2016 Share Posted March 31, 2016 I agree, I always thought that every item, structure and creature has a purpose in the game, but the night lights don't, I only used them as a light source in the ruins because I ran out of wood and I had 2 stacks of nightmare fuel, it was a nightmare fuel waste but I survived 3 days there thanks to those lights, A permanent light source?, I don't like it, of curse it would be awesome but a bit broken too. I prefer the number one option, it sounds pretty balanced and useful. Maybe if the night lights were immune to the flingomatic snowballs they would be more useful, we could use them as source light on summer while the flingomatic is turned on. however, the nightmare lights are so expensive, they should have another use, maybe turn flowers into dark flowers or make the nightmare creatures tangible if you are enough insane to see them, the nightmare lights had so much potential I would like a purpose to build them, even if is risky or random, it just feel that the night lights are incomplete, even the fern pots feels more complete. If the night lights have another use please tell me Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/65923-night-light-usefulness/#findComment-741692 Share on other sites More sharing options...
PanAzej Posted March 31, 2016 Share Posted March 31, 2016 It should use your sanity as fuel. As, when you stand near it, it lowers your sanity but it burns. There. Useful. Kinda. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/65923-night-light-usefulness/#findComment-741705 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Serph Posted March 31, 2016 Share Posted March 31, 2016 What bothers me is how expensive it is compared to how awful it is. 8 gold, 2 nightmare and a red gem for what? Campfire levels of light, very expensive to fuel, no temperature AND lowers your sanity? Why would i make this over a Fire/Endo/Chim/Obsidian pit? Even if you're rolling in nightmare fuel and playing Willow/Maxwell, the resources are better spent on a life amulet. IMO, remove the sanity drain, increased the light to obsidian levels and make it so it the fuel stacks and only burns when you're close and maybe it would be a decent sidegrade. The lack of temperature and expensive fuel still makes every other fire more desirable. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/65923-night-light-usefulness/#findComment-741862 Share on other sites More sharing options...
1v0 Posted March 31, 2016 Share Posted March 31, 2016 Best use is maybe in ruins a place where you can farm shadow fuel . If I remember correctly it lasts more than a normal fire . (also you can active it with fire staff ) Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/65923-night-light-usefulness/#findComment-741893 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maslak Posted March 31, 2016 Share Posted March 31, 2016 Well, personally I use glitched lanterns - they last forever, but those spooky noises they constantly make... 2spooky4me, but works. I never builded nigh light. Maybe one day I will, just only to decorate my super-duper mega base (haha, I'm too lazy to do things like this). Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/65923-night-light-usefulness/#findComment-741946 Share on other sites More sharing options...
PanAzej Posted March 31, 2016 Share Posted March 31, 2016 The problem in Together with this structure is that you have 4-6 people wanting to use the best gear in the game, and it's made out of Nightmare Fuel. Why would you waste it on a light source like this, when you can burn a log or two and achieve the same effect? It needs something to make it more useful. Night Light is like the most bottom-tier item I can think of. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/65923-night-light-usefulness/#findComment-741990 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auth Posted March 31, 2016 Share Posted March 31, 2016 Bah, but what am I supposed to craft now that the One Man Band has a use? HOW WILL I FLAUNT THAT IM SO RICH I CAN MAKE USELESS ITEMS?!!?!? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/65923-night-light-usefulness/#findComment-741994 Share on other sites More sharing options...
spiderdian Posted March 31, 2016 Share Posted March 31, 2016 Even the powder cake has an use as a trap bait and this thing only has drawbacks Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/65923-night-light-usefulness/#findComment-742019 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soto8969 Posted March 31, 2016 Share Posted March 31, 2016 35 minutes ago, Weirdobob said: Bah, but what am I supposed to craft now that the One Man Band has a use? HOW WILL I FLAUNT THAT IM SO RICH I CAN MAKE USELESS ITEMS?!!?!? You can make infinite life amulets and always forget to put them on when you are about to die! Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/65923-night-light-usefulness/#findComment-742020 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auth Posted March 31, 2016 Share Posted March 31, 2016 4 minutes ago, Soto8969 said: You can make infinite life amulets and always forget to put them on when you are about to die! But this is the DST section! I always carry life giving amulets with me, and I don't need to equip them! Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/65923-night-light-usefulness/#findComment-742024 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soto8969 Posted March 31, 2016 Share Posted March 31, 2016 1 hour ago, Weirdobob said: But this is the DST section! I always carry life giving amulets with me, and I don't need to equip them! Oh, thats right... they should add simbols to difference between singleplayer and multiplayer... Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/65923-night-light-usefulness/#findComment-742046 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auth Posted April 1, 2016 Share Posted April 1, 2016 22 minutes ago, Soto8969 said: Oh, thats right... they should add simbols to difference between singleplayer and multiplayer... Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/65923-night-light-usefulness/#findComment-742058 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Battal Posted April 1, 2016 Share Posted April 1, 2016 I made a thread similar to this about 3 years ago, and it also featured the Night Light. Someone on that thread suggested that it should scare away mobs in its radius, creating a sort of safe area so long as it was burning. I still support that idea. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/65923-night-light-usefulness/#findComment-742064 Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotStarvnMarvn Posted April 1, 2016 Share Posted April 1, 2016 I like night lights. Equipping night armour, a dank sword and standing next to a night light at night (say that 10 times fast) is easy insanity, and fuelling it isn't a problem for me. I like how it looks too, I always have 1 in every world provided I have the things to make it. Plus it provides no temperature gain/loss so it's good for emergency lighting at any season. However, I would like to see some changes added to it. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/65923-night-light-usefulness/#findComment-742067 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soto8969 Posted April 1, 2016 Share Posted April 1, 2016 17 minutes ago, Weirdobob said: ooooooooh, ooh, oh *hangs himself* Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/65923-night-light-usefulness/#findComment-742074 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Serph Posted April 1, 2016 Share Posted April 1, 2016 10 hours ago, Dylan738 said: I like night lights. Equipping night armour, a dank sword and standing next to a night light at night (say that 10 times fast) is easy insanity, and fuelling it isn't a problem for me. I like how it looks too, I always have 1 in every world provided I have the things to make it. Plus it provides no temperature gain/loss so it's good for emergency lighting at any season. However, I would like to see some changes added to it. Using the night light to go insane sounds counter intuitive to me. You waste nightmare fuel to get nightmare fuel? (-3 per min is actually too low to be worth it) If you need a emergency light you make a torch. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/65923-night-light-usefulness/#findComment-742220 Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotStarvnMarvn Posted April 1, 2016 Share Posted April 1, 2016 2 hours ago, Serph said: Using the night light to go insane sounds counter intuitive to me. You waste nightmare fuel to get nightmare fuel? (-3 per min is actually too low to be worth it) In my opinion it's worth it if you have a lot of spare time on your hands or nightmare fuel (like in caves). You can get a sanity drain of -38/min at dusk/night and -33/min at day with, as I said before, the dark sword, night armour, and the night light. I can be patient and I find waiting next to the night light worth it. It's like an expensive and opposite version of the top hat. P.S: If you have many spider hats and want to get rid of them wear it with all of the above for sanity drain of -40/min at dusk/night and -35/min at day. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/65923-night-light-usefulness/#findComment-742289 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GangStarrWoWp Posted April 1, 2016 Author Share Posted April 1, 2016 1 minute ago, Dylan738 said: In my opinion it's worth it if you have a lot of spare time on your hands or nightmare fuel (like in caves). You can get a sanity drain of -38/min at dusk/night and -33/min at day with, as I said before, the dark sword, night armour, and the night light. I can be patient and I find waiting next to the night light worth it. It's like an expensive and opposite version of the top hat. The thing is this is the type of game where doing things as fast as possible is preferred. Building a night light just to drain sanity is a bit silly, even if you don't have Glommer Goop and can't find any Green mushrooms for some reason (or if you're wigfrid) you can always just jump into a wormhole over and over. Even at -38sanity per minute with the shadow items and the night light it's still much quicker and easier to do with other easier to obtain items. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/65923-night-light-usefulness/#findComment-742296 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michi01 Posted April 1, 2016 Share Posted April 1, 2016 14 hours ago, Dylan738 said: a dank sword Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/65923-night-light-usefulness/#findComment-742333 Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotStarvnMarvn Posted April 1, 2016 Share Posted April 1, 2016 15 hours ago, Soto8969 said: ooooooooh, ooh, oh *hangs himself* Shouldn't you be a ghost AFTER you hang yourself? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/65923-night-light-usefulness/#findComment-742400 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maslak Posted April 1, 2016 Share Posted April 1, 2016 35 minutes ago, Dylan738 said: Shouldn't you be a ghost AFTER you hang yourself? He did it twice, I guess. First in human form and then as a ghost. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/65923-night-light-usefulness/#findComment-742414 Share on other sites More sharing options...
werlpolf Posted April 1, 2016 Share Posted April 1, 2016 It would be great, that, when you stand near, it gets activated and gives light. You can either use nightmare fuel to fuel it like the flingomatic machine or it will drain your sanity. When you leave the night light area, it stops draining sanity / consuming nightmare and giving light. This will give something unique (and beneficial) to that fire source compared to others. Finally it is more difficult to craft and the fuel is more expensive. The benefit in using my suggested feature is more aiming for caves. If you get ressurectid through amulet or touchstones there, you won't ve a light source. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/65923-night-light-usefulness/#findComment-742433 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quyzbuk Posted April 1, 2016 Share Posted April 1, 2016 Night light is fine as it is, if anything the only thing that needs to be changed is the fact that flingos still douse it. Water/ice should not have effect on something that isn't truly a flame. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/65923-night-light-usefulness/#findComment-742452 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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