LiamAshvinn001 Posted February 16, 2022 Share Posted February 16, 2022 Do you think Wanda should be harder? I mean in her animated short, we see her basicaly being chased down and in game u can just hold F and crawling horror or the shadow hands can grab her or something, it just feels too easy for me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShadowDuelist Posted February 16, 2022 Share Posted February 16, 2022 No, She's fine. 2 minutes ago, LiamAshvinn001 said: it just feels too easy for me From what I've seen around most pubs, for most people playing the game, she isn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dextops Posted February 16, 2022 Share Posted February 16, 2022 any character is easy once you get skill. I don't think any characters should be nerfed because in the grand scheme of things character choice doesn't dictate how good your run is and is only a small percentage of it, so as long as they are fun they are fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LiamAshvinn001 Posted February 16, 2022 Author Share Posted February 16, 2022 ye but just felt that some cool stuff could be done with how the shadows are always chasing her in the lore Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArubaroBeefalo Posted February 16, 2022 Share Posted February 16, 2022 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frashaw27 Posted February 16, 2022 Share Posted February 16, 2022 The only idea I could think of is a timer that ticks down for every minute she's fully insane which results in a big boi strong boss coming after that wanda soecifically, thus leading to an interesting dynamic where your nightmare fuel reliant playstyle requires more strategic planning for getting and using nightmare fuel instead of just constantly being insane to satisfy the urge. Though in the grand scheme of things, Wanda is perfectly fine the way she is. Her true power only shines when you've put a lot of time into the world and are competent enough in fights to avoid taking massive amounts of damage, which means she actively encourages you to learn and grow to her playstyle to fully get the most out of her. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atkvin Posted February 16, 2022 Share Posted February 16, 2022 When I first saw her short I expected her big downside to be being chased down by shadows constantly, and her combat oriented design and quick travel abilities seemed perfect for it too. It does seem like a novel idea on paper, but in practice it just means Wanda would be constantly functionally insane, have no reason to keep up her sanity since she's already chased constantly, and the idea of being harassed by shadows while just trying to gather resources or fight bosses just doesn't sound fun to manage long-term, compared to her age gimmick. Speaking in terms of the lore, Wanda's mishap near the end of the short somehow warped her into the Constant, where it appears she is clearly still stalked by Them but for some reason no longer hunted down - unless in gameplay mechanics, she becomes 'too old to run from her fate'. However it works right now it feels like they were placated by her being dragged into the Constant - perhaps because shadow creatures exist everywhere in the Constant, but are only able to become corporeal and aggressive once you become insane and able to perceive them. Or are by a nightmare light or something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lil K Posted February 16, 2022 Share Posted February 16, 2022 She should stay soft, since she is an old granny and doesn't have that much collagen anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike23Ua Posted February 16, 2022 Share Posted February 16, 2022 What Klei needs to look at, is that they have this huge cast of playable characters (no where near as big as Smite mind you.. but Huge Nonetheless..) Each of these playable characters SHOULD offer up their own very unique way of playing the game that makes you actually want to pick and play as them to get that kind of experience out of them. While some people will say “No she’s fine as Is” I can not and will not EVER see it that way because the way I feel about it is whenever Klei does a content update that can benefit or hinder a certain playable character- then that update SHOULD benefit or hinder that character. Take the Eye of the Storm update and Woodie & Willow in that update into consideration. Or Water Logged/ Webber Rework with Webber. Or RWYS with Wurt & Wormwood. If the update CAN Benefit or Harm X… it should. So yes… WANDA isn’t immune to having content added to the game later that much like Woodie in Eye of the Storm- Makes her life a little more difficult. And I could give a bunch of crazy suggestions for that- such as Walls or void dimensions that fluctuate Time itself so you would have to be the right “Age” as Wanda to get past.. But my “Point” is if an update CAN Benefit or Hinder X.. then it SHOULD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LiamAshvinn001 Posted February 16, 2022 Author Share Posted February 16, 2022 7 minutes ago, Mike23Ua said: What Klei needs to look at, is that they have this huge cast of playable characters (no where near as big as Smite mind you.. but Huge Nonetheless..) Each of these playable characters SHOULD offer up their own very unique way of playing the game that makes you actually want to pick and play as them to get that kind of experience out of them. While some people will say “No she’s fine as Is” I can not and will not EVER see it that way because the way I feel about it is whenever Klei does a content update that can benefit or hinder a certain playable character- then that update SHOULD benefit or hinder that character. Take the Eye of the Storm update and Woodie & Willow in that update into consideration. Or Water Logged/ Webber Rework with Webber. Or RWYS with Wurt & Wormwood. If the update CAN Benefit or Harm X… it should. So yes… WANDA isn’t immune to having content added to the game later that much like Woodie in Eye of the Storm- Makes her life a little more difficult. And I could give a bunch of crazy suggestions for that- such as Walls or void dimensions that fluctuate Time itself so you would have to be the right “Age” as Wanda to get past.. But my “Point” is if an update CAN Benefit or Hinder X.. then it SHOULD. True, though theres some really cool stuff they could add to make Wanda a bit more difficult with the shadow creatures Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cloakingsumo198 Posted February 16, 2022 Share Posted February 16, 2022 Sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dollmaker Posted February 16, 2022 Share Posted February 16, 2022 I think her difficulty is fine, and like Dextops mentioned once youre used to it, the character becomes easy. If anything i just think she might be too strong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LinknAllie Posted February 16, 2022 Share Posted February 16, 2022 No. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SecretPizzaMan Posted February 16, 2022 Share Posted February 16, 2022 Idk. On one hand, she is absolutely insane and is probably the most op character in the right hands. On the other hand however, you need the right hands otherwise you would be struggling really hard with Wanda. I just think darksword should be stronger for middle aged instead of alarming clock and then it would be all good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LiamAshvinn001 Posted February 16, 2022 Author Share Posted February 16, 2022 22 hours ago, SecretPizzaMan said: Idk. On one hand, she is absolutely insane and is probably the most op character in the right hands. On the other hand however, you need the right hands otherwise you would be struggling really hard with Wanda. I just think darksword should be stronger for middle aged instead of alarming clock and then it would be all good. Not really, at least for me. For me, once I just remembered to use the ageless clock and watch my age meter it became super easy fo r me, which is why I thought she needed to be more harder. Dark sword shouldnt be Wanda's weapon, shes not a duelist, she should be using Alarming Clock, its not like Walter should keep using boomerangs 22 hours ago, Dollmaker said: I think her difficulty is fine, and like Dextops mentioned once youre used to it, the character becomes easy. If anything i just think she might be too strong. Ye, though her being too strong should be more balanced by maybe just making shadow monsters just more dangerous, you can literally hold F with an alarming clock on Crawling Horror and boom its ded, and Terrorbreaks r a bit harder but just move a bit and hit and boom theyre ded Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LiamAshvinn001 Posted February 16, 2022 Author Share Posted February 16, 2022 They could easily make it that shadow hands try to grab her, and u have to hit them to get rid of them, and also make the normal shadow creatures faster Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hhh2 Posted February 16, 2022 Share Posted February 16, 2022 No. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheggf Posted February 16, 2022 Share Posted February 16, 2022 Klei forums be like Wanda too easy I beat deerclops once. Nerf pls. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cloakingsumo198 Posted February 16, 2022 Share Posted February 16, 2022 Wanda mains after getting their only heal put on cool down after being too cocky and not healing before age 73: Spoiler Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frosty_Mentos Posted February 16, 2022 Share Posted February 16, 2022 We don't need anything harder. It's good enough as is. Besides few tweaks needed for other characters to make them more enjoyable. Btw making things harder doesn't make them more fun to play with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Echsrick Posted February 16, 2022 Share Posted February 16, 2022 i have a weird bad feeling how this can end up again, not saying of course, but perhaps an opinion of mine, wanda realy dit not need the compat perks at all, i realy dont understand why she has those Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArubaroBeefalo Posted February 16, 2022 Share Posted February 16, 2022 12 minutes ago, Frosty_Mentos said: Btw making things harder doesn't make them more fun to play with. depends Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frosty_Mentos Posted February 16, 2022 Share Posted February 16, 2022 Just now, ArubaroBeefalo said: depends On what? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArubaroBeefalo Posted February 16, 2022 Share Posted February 16, 2022 3 minutes ago, Frosty_Mentos said: On what? i dont enjoy "free wins" in videogames so having something super easy can be not fun or even super boring Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dollmaker Posted February 16, 2022 Share Posted February 16, 2022 13 minutes ago, Frosty_Mentos said: On what? 7 minutes ago, ArubaroBeefalo said: i dont enjoy "free wins" in videogames so having something super easy can be not fun or even super boring Yeah pretty much that, people like a challenge as long as is not something frustrating (aka poorly designed, unfair, luck based, etc) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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