minespatch Posted February 27, 2019 Share Posted February 27, 2019 If my setup is wrong, tell me how I can fix it for a future base. I like the three rooms on the side of the duplicator outline but if there's a better alternative to rooms and faster oxygen output, let me know. I want to give dupes the best relaxation and progression as they venture higher up. I've gotten better with drecko farming but could use some more tips. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/103356-critique-on-my-setup/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
beowulf2010 Posted February 27, 2019 Share Posted February 27, 2019 I don't see anything wrong, but if you're interested in chasing room morale bonuses, you don't need individual bedrooms. I usually just go with 8 cots in a single room with a couple paintings or hanging pots until I'm ready to transition to comfy beds. Looks like you're on your way to a Mess Hall/Great Hall which is a great help. Also, consider an actual bathroom instead of making your guys use the facilities in the med bay. Last thing to note, the upgraded bedrooms (require comfy beds) have a misleading description. You can actually have multiple comfy beds in a single room. I find 3 per room a good balance between space and decorations, but you could fit up to 7 in a single room. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/103356-critique-on-my-setup/#findComment-1159970 Share on other sites More sharing options...
minespatch Posted February 27, 2019 Author Share Posted February 27, 2019 1 minute ago, beowulf2010 said: ust go with 8 cots in a single room That's awesome! That'll save me more room space! Thanks so much! Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/103356-critique-on-my-setup/#findComment-1159971 Share on other sites More sharing options...
beowulf2010 Posted February 27, 2019 Share Posted February 27, 2019 Just now, minespatch said: That's awesome! That'll save me more room space! Thanks so much! No problem. Oh, one last thing is that you'll want to start putting in airflow or mesh tiles between floors to allow oxygen to spread out and carbon dioxide to sink. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/103356-critique-on-my-setup/#findComment-1159972 Share on other sites More sharing options...
minespatch Posted February 27, 2019 Author Share Posted February 27, 2019 Just now, beowulf2010 said: No problem. Oh, one last thing is that you'll want to start putting in airflow or mesh tiles between floors to allow oxygen to spread out and carbon dioxide to sink. I usually do after I get my farming setup. Just depends on how fast my dupes are with constructing and researching. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/103356-critique-on-my-setup/#findComment-1159973 Share on other sites More sharing options...
blash365 Posted February 27, 2019 Share Posted February 27, 2019 1.) It might be a good idea to add some extra corridors in between your floors for pipes and vents (especially for the later game). 2.) Also you should plan your ladder shafts 3 tiles wide for the same reason and for additional options of adding a firepole or tube. Note that both those things should also help with the gas flow in your base. 3.) you might not want to set your toilet/medbay near your water resource, since dupes might occasionally be in discomfort and wet the floor, resulting in your nice blue pool of fluid to be contaminated with ... well ... piss. at least add an overflow step (extra tile) to prevent liquids to spill into your pond. 4.) Skip outhouses and try to rush lavatories. They are superior in every way. (unless you want morbs) Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/103356-critique-on-my-setup/#findComment-1159975 Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhailRaptor Posted February 27, 2019 Share Posted February 27, 2019 Where your Outhouse is currently set up... you should absolutely put a second Wash Basin on the other side of it. Unless you have one-way doors set up, your Dupes have a 50% chance of simply ignoring the one you have. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/103356-critique-on-my-setup/#findComment-1159976 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnFrancis Posted February 27, 2019 Share Posted February 27, 2019 You have all the things in a base I love to change Having ladders at the edges of your base is going to slow down moving between floors so it's usually better to have it in the middle and leave room for a fire pole later. In the bathroom area's have you limited the doors? It's just that if you have not the dupes can use the bathroom and leave via the opposite door without washing their hands and then start spreading germs, Bathrooms are usually dead ends or one way door systems. Consolidate the bedrooms with a minimum of 3 beds per barracks. Up to 8 is fine. If someone has an "accident" on any floor there is a good chance that the pee will end up in your clean water. You need a CO2 pit for food storage. You should have a hole below your base for CO2 collection. I would recommend you get rid of the spread out toilets and consolidate them into one room. A great hall will help your moral, try and minimize travel distance between key rooms -> Food production, Food consumption, Food disposal and Bedrooms. You need a polluted water pit. You know what here is a tutorial I did on the first 40 cycles it's covers most of all of that, be warned I ramble a bit. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/103356-critique-on-my-setup/#findComment-1159979 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Trueba Posted February 27, 2019 Share Posted February 27, 2019 Look at my 16 dupes base. I don't have a great hall because I don't need it, but the mess hall makes the work. Maybe you can take some tips from here. (: Spoiler Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/103356-critique-on-my-setup/#findComment-1159980 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gurgel Posted February 27, 2019 Share Posted February 27, 2019 You will have really bad Oxygen propagation here and probably dupes waking up from too much CO2. Put some air-permeable tiles in the floors. Apart from that, different from what I would do, but looks workable. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/103356-critique-on-my-setup/#findComment-1159988 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SharraShimada Posted February 27, 2019 Share Posted February 27, 2019 As nice as it looks, your setup results in very long walking paths. The can only change the level on either side, but not in the middle. So, i a dupe stands in the middle of one level, and needs to go to another level to the mid, he walks an entire level for nothing. Having ladders on the sides is not a bad thing, but there should be another ladder somewhere in the mid, to prevent long travelroutes. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/103356-critique-on-my-setup/#findComment-1159997 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oozinator Posted February 27, 2019 Share Posted February 27, 2019 My tip would be "dig only out what you need to dig out and build only, what you need to build, but debris should be removed quick, because it's ugly and makes dupes sad." Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/103356-critique-on-my-setup/#findComment-1160019 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnFrancis Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 38 minutes ago, Oozinator said: My tip would be "dig only out what you need to dig out and build only, what you need to build, but debris should be removed quick, because it's ugly and makes dupes sad." Debris is just negative decor, the maximum moral negative you can get from decor is -1. I don't care about debris until I start installing decor items before that point it usually impossible to get dupe daily average above 0 decor just due to exposure of machines and raw tiles they will be working around during the day. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/103356-critique-on-my-setup/#findComment-1160030 Share on other sites More sharing options...
hpongledd Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 make rooms always 4 tiles height, because decor and stuff. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/103356-critique-on-my-setup/#findComment-1160154 Share on other sites More sharing options...
angrybovine Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 Floor lengths are way too long and will cause long travel times. There are many paths the dupes can take doing errands where they can spread Food Poisoning (I wonder if you have been having problems with that). Any point where a dupe can get surface germs needs to have only one path or all possible paths that will get the dupe to clean themselves. Otherwise your dupes will get diahrea and use the manually-maintained outhouses twice as much. With enough dupes you will be getting nothing done errand-wise other than servicing the outhouses (an exaggeration but any progress you will attempt will be painfully slow). I also just noticed you have polluted water bottles near food and in pathways that dupes carrying food will pass. These PW bottles release germy polluted oxygen and this will contaminate food as it pass by. Closed doors take time to open before the dupe can pass. And you have an over-abundance of doors. Open up those doors unless there is a specific pathing or blocking reason for them. Ditch the water cooler as it increases water usage for a measly 1 point of morale. Disabling the water cooler will prevent it wasting water, but I think your dupes will get a higher decor bonus if they socialize near the printer pod with its 30 decor, so getting rid of the cooler may help get your dupes to socialize near the pod. I typically just have 1 exist as disabled in my Great Hall to get the room bonus. Not every "room" needs to be an enclosed room. You need to completely enclose rooms where 1. You get a room bonus, 2. You want to keep something in, 3. You want to keep something out, or 4. for pathing reasons. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/103356-critique-on-my-setup/#findComment-1160162 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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