New problem: Overheating Blast Doors

[KittenIsAGeek]

So, apparently in the cold vacuum of space, blast doors don't release any heat.  They do, however, appear to generate heat when open.

I understand solar panels getting hot, but cooling blast doors?  The detector stations also don't get rid of heat -- even with a tempshift plate behind them in contact with a cooler substance.

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Interestingly, my detector dish is up to 243c and isn't taking overheat damage yet.

[FIXBUGFIXBUGFIX]

Detector won't overheat, so you only have to prevent them from melt.

[KittenIsAGeek]

Still.. gotta re-design my outer base structure so I can cool those doors.

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Does liquid pipe in door will get damage by comet? (Door--liquid pipe in door)

Or will tempshift plate one block behind the door be damage by explosion? (Door--temp plate--window tile--liquid pipe in tile)

 

[Miravlix]

Vacuum is NOT COLD. It's a movie inspired myth, because we always get to see people freeze to death, even while that doesn't happen, instead heat is a MAJOR problem in space, because you have nothing to transfer your heat to.

So in game the "trick" is to give heat a way to transfer.

Don't build in the vacuum biome. I think you could dig down to the magma and light would go all the way, but just moving down to the close to the surface biomes allows you to use GAS and/or liquid. (Glass tiles will allow you to create walls that light can travel past)

In the case of blast doors liquid/gas would be lost, so you need to learn to use the tile heat transfer mechanics.

[KittenIsAGeek]

Just now, Miravlix said:

Vacuum is NOT COLD. It's a movie inspired myth, because we always get to see people freeze to death, even while that doesn't happen, instead heat is a MAJOR problem in space, because you have nothing to transfer your heat to.

Well, blast doors wouldn't have an overheating problem if I never opened them. As long as they're closed, they're fine.  Their temp goes up when they get hit by hot meteors, and cools down slowly otherwise.  Its when they're open that there's a problem.

[Santhor]

1 hour ago, Miravlix said:

Vacuum is NOT COLD. It's a movie inspired myth, because we always get to see people freeze to death, even while that doesn't happen, instead heat is a MAJOR problem in space, because you have nothing to transfer your heat to..

Well in space you would freeze to death (not immediately but you would) if you wouldnt have an insulation around you OR burn to death if you would be in sunlight like in distance to the sun  from earth. But to not derail the thread completely - Yes objects in space cool slowly (and faster the hotter they get) if not warmth by a heating source (sun).

[Kabrute]

I've been thinking about installing power disconnects when in a set state so if you cut power while open do the doors still generate heat?

[PhailRaptor]

The issue is that you've built them in the Vacuum.  You need to dig down below the background topography, so you can maintain atmosphere for the Doors, the Panels, and the Detectors.  Cool that atmosphere and you're fine.

[Kabrute]

afaik an open door doesn't conduct with its surroundings so how would you bleed the heat from the doors when open?  If you can't then you have to prevent it right?

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14 minutes ago, Kabrute said:

an open door doesn't conduct with its surroundings 

Only if there is no gas and liquid in door

[Oozinator]

3 hours ago, Santhor said:

Well in space you would freeze to death (not immediately but you would) if you wouldnt have an insulation around you OR burn to death if you would be in sunlight like in distance to the sun  from earth. But to not derail the thread completely - Yes objects in space cool slowly (and faster the hotter they get) if not warmth by a heating source (sun).

$$ |dE/dt| = A\sigma T_{b}^4 $$

[Guest]

I made a bug report of this. If the developers see it like that, they'll probably fix it:

 

 

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I think bunker door overheated is not due to the operate heat, but the explosion and debris. After a explosion, the debris rise temperature to more than 200C

[BlueLance]

As far as I am aware, without a medium to transfer heat temp shifts wont work, and temperature wont shift. The easiest solution would be to build deeper down. As PhailRaptor said

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10 hours ago, Miravlix said:

Vacuum is NOT COLD. It's a movie inspired myth, because we always get to see people freeze to death, even while that doesn't happen, instead heat is a MAJOR problem in space, because you have nothing to transfer your heat to.

Depends on where you are, average temperature in space is 3K so I think it's darn cold! As NASA said without space suit you have 300C facing the sun -100C on your back. So yeah Space is messed up. If space wasn't cold, explain Pluto.

Room temperature radiator with surface area of 1m^2 = 1 AETN

But but what about the sun? Be perpendicular my friend!

 

[SackMaggie]

Don't build in space biome then Build like this

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When meteor come all door will close

Mechanized door will rise my liquid up so it will directly touch my blast door then all heat from blast door will be dump into liquid. 

 

[BlueLance]

Isnt that a fairly large power drain having all those doors?

[Oozinator]

29 minutes ago, SackMaggie said:

Don't build in space biome then Build like this

Mhh for me it makes <1 sense, to build something for the small amount of energy, you get.
Get you any surplus with all that stuff?
 

[KittenIsAGeek]

8 hours ago, R9MX4 said:

I think bunker door overheated is not due to the operate heat, but the explosion and debris. After a explosion, the debris rise temperature to more than 200C

I've been watching my doors. They do heat up when debris hit, but then they cool back down a bit.  However, while they're held open, they continually heat up.  It doesn't matter if there are debris, or if its day or night.  As long as they're open, they get hotter.  When they're closed, they only heat up when they get hit by hot debris.

[SackMaggie]

24 minutes ago, Oozinator said:

Mhh for me it makes <1 sense, to build something for the small amount of energy, you get.
Get you any surplus with all that stuff?
 

NOPE It waste a lot to get 220 w.

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What kind of crappy firedoors overheat at 75C? Seriously! This is highly processed steel we're talking about. Shouldn't this stuff be rated like 350C? Normal firedoors should be able to handle 350C.

[BlueLance]

21 minutes ago, cpy said:

What kind of crappy firedoors overheat at 75C? Seriously! This is highly processed steel we're talking about. Shouldn't this stuff be rated like 350C? Normal firedoors should be able to handle 350C.

You are forgetting that iron overheats at 75 as well, and gold seems to overheat at 125. I mean overheat and melt are different... which is a bit daft.

[chemie]

14 hours ago, Santhor said:

Well in space you would freeze to death (not immediately but you would) if you wouldnt have an insulation around you OR burn to death if you would be in sunlight like in distance to the sun  from earth. But to not derail the thread completely - Yes objects in space cool slowly (and faster the hotter they get) if not warmth by a heating source (sun).

Actually the pressure (Or lack there of) would kill you well before any temperature issues threatened your life.  Humans, outside of a pressurized suit, do not do well in vacuums.

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Bah what is the point of having access to space if the only way to build things is deeper underground with a background.

Yes that is a solution but it shouldn't be THE solution.