nivodeus Posted May 25, 2018 Share Posted May 25, 2018 Hey, i've been playing for some time now and always have problems with supplying exosuit with oxygen. I mainly supply it with my electrolyzer, which also supply the oxygen to my base. The problem is the moment I set it up, it seems to just consume a lot of the oxygen (usually it will be fine once all the suits are fully stocked with O2). The problem is it seems to tax my oxygen supply a lot. Should i instead build a new stand alone oxygen supplier for exosuit, especially when i started to build a lot of docks. Either the exosuits have low oxygen stock or my base starved of the oxygen the moment I started to build up more and more docks. Really appreciate it if anyone can share their idea on how to keep exosuits stocked well with oxygen. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/91097-managing-exosuit/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
0xFADE Posted May 25, 2018 Share Posted May 25, 2018 I had something awhile back that would power itself as well as the suits and provide them oxygen. Seemed pretty good. Each dock holds quite a lot of oxygen. You could probably get away with sealing the room and having only one if it was feature built for the suits only. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/91097-managing-exosuit/#findComment-1038419 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kabrute Posted May 25, 2018 Share Posted May 25, 2018 What I do is use a straight pipe from the electro to the docks, now stick a bridge on there running to the base. Now the dock will only get O2 if the base is full of O2 first and backs up across the bridge, this way the docks get the "extra" air. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/91097-managing-exosuit/#findComment-1038423 Share on other sites More sharing options...
goboking Posted May 25, 2018 Share Posted May 25, 2018 Don't build too many docks until your oxygen production can sustain surpluses (i.e. you've tapped a water geyser to supply your electrolyzers or are capable of mass producing algae for your oxidizers). Once you've capable of refining metal and have researched the proper automation techs you can place atmo sensors throughout your base to turn on additional oxygen production if your docks are drawing too much O2 all at once. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/91097-managing-exosuit/#findComment-1038426 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lilalaunekuh Posted May 25, 2018 Share Posted May 25, 2018 If your base is smaller than 8 dupes: -Just use Kabrutes solution (One pipe system with priority for suits or your base) If you got a bigger base: -Better seperate your oxygen supply -Even a full 1Kg O2 / s line could just supply ~11,5 suits I use one electrolyzer setup (>500Kg O2) for 12 exosuit docks. => If you filter your output with mechanical filter or automated ones, you will have enough power to sustain the electrolyzer and all suits Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/91097-managing-exosuit/#findComment-1038437 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albryant Posted May 25, 2018 Share Posted May 25, 2018 Doesn't each dock's storage bold up 200 kilograms of Oxygen? Plus whatever gets backed up in the pipe after they are full. It's a lot. My current play through is my first time using exosuits. In hindsight, I don't know how I ever got anything done without them. I didn't even think of trying to setup a separate oxygen system for them, I just used my main base suppy. I took it slow though. Built and filled one at a time then let my oxygen recover before moving onto another one. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/91097-managing-exosuit/#findComment-1038451 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SamLogan Posted May 25, 2018 Share Posted May 25, 2018 Personnally, I use a dedicate pipe from a pump in my base that fill it. The pipe is always full and the exosuit also. If you try to use the same pipe to fill your base and the exosuit, you will not have enough flow for the both. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/91097-managing-exosuit/#findComment-1038475 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miravlix Posted May 25, 2018 Share Posted May 25, 2018 1: ExoSuits don't care about the temp of O2. 2: See 1. I have a closed base the size of the starting area and can produce O2 for it with the initial two Algae D's until at least turn 500+. Uncooled and self powered Electrolyzers setups powers nothing but suits. Spoiler The piping of this setup is really important, if the bottom pump don't get a few pipes to buffer, the hydrogen can't merge without loosing performance. You don't actually need the "build in" filter for hydrogen or the externally powered O2 filter (the one lying on top), if you make sure the system runs without backing up, with the atmo pressure sensor set to above 300, the top pump will always output hydrogen and the bottom will give oxygen. (After the room settles after first being build) DON'T use cooled water for the electrolyzer's, I usually end up with a water sieve supplying the water. In the case of the pictured one, I have it supplied by one of two nutty cool steam vents on this map, so it's getting 100ish C water and ends up pipeing 70ish C O2 to the suits. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/91097-managing-exosuit/#findComment-1038500 Share on other sites More sharing options...
nivodeus Posted May 26, 2018 Author Share Posted May 26, 2018 4 hours ago, Kabrute said: What I do is use a straight pipe from the electro to the docks, now stick a bridge on there running to the base. Now the dock will only get O2 if the base is full of O2 first and backs up across the bridge, this way the docks get the "extra" air. This is what i did, but i ended up with no oxygen to the docks at all. I guess i need more O2 supply first before started making exo docks. But then, without exosuit faraway exploration proves to be very tedious and time consuming. It's an endless cycle. 4 hours ago, goboking said: Don't build too many docks until your oxygen production can sustain surpluses (i.e. you've tapped a water geyser to supply your electrolyzers or are capable of mass producing algae for your oxidizers). Once you've capable of refining metal and have researched the proper automation techs you can place atmo sensors throughout your base to turn on additional oxygen production if your docks are drawing too much O2 all at once. I guess this could be the problem. Maybe I should build 1 or 2 at a time and stock it up and maybe built more as it goes. And with time then start building a special oxygen supply room just for the suit. Exosuit doesnt care about O2 but I read it will radiate heat to the dock, which in turn radiate heat to my base as well, albeit slowly. Maybe once the base able to sustain more exosuit, base cooling shouldnt be a problem anymore. Thanks guy. I'll try it for my next base and see how it goes. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/91097-managing-exosuit/#findComment-1038525 Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishoutofwater Posted May 26, 2018 Share Posted May 26, 2018 Easier with sealed base. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/91097-managing-exosuit/#findComment-1038551 Share on other sites More sharing options...
KittenIsAGeek Posted May 26, 2018 Share Posted May 26, 2018 I have a sort-of dedicated supply for my exo-suits. I have a room that takes up excess oxygen from my supply. In that room I have two air pumps that push 1kg packets down a pipe to my docking stations. Currently my oxygen supply is about equal to my oxygen demand, so everything balances out over time -- in other words, if the dupes are spending lots of time in the suits, then oxygen builds up in the excess room to be pumped into the suits because they're not consuming it in the base. I've found through trial and error that two pumps will handle around 8 docking stations. More than that and some docking stations will become starved for oxygen if the suits are being used regularly. From a math point of view: Two pumps can push 1kg packets per second through a pipe. 10 dupes consume roughly 1kg/s, so 10 stations is the limit for a single gas pipe fed by two pumps. It is easiest to simply have a dedicated supply for the docking stations, but I've been using a single supply for everything for a while now. It is a little confusing, but works pretty well. My oxygen is supplied by two electrolyzers and pumped into my base. When the pipe backs up, the extra diverts into a line that goes to my exo-suit docks. Theoretically this should work, since the dupes are consuming oxygen whether or not they're in suits. However, I've run into some issues. So once the suit docks and the base is full, the oxygen is diverted once again into a buffer room. Inside this room are two pumps that feed in directly to the exo-suit docking stations, using bridges to make sure that the pumps only come on when there is not any oxygen coming from the supply. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/91097-managing-exosuit/#findComment-1038573 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WanderingKid Posted May 26, 2018 Share Posted May 26, 2018 If you use main power trunks, you can use those trunks for double-duty. My Main Power trunks typically end up 4 high, which means I can stick a pair of deoxydizers and a pair of air pumps roughly anywhere in a 4x4 square. Stick them inside a couple of manual airlocks you probably won't need very often to fill up algae and they can get a lot of work done away from your main O2 supplies and distribution network(s). Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/91097-managing-exosuit/#findComment-1038586 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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