RootBeerFloat Posted February 13, 2013 Share Posted February 13, 2013 Okay who wants to have to resarch the same OLD bull**** over and over agin in evey new world, kind annoying with my unless you play on bringing all the mats to makethe machines ASAPreally guys it gets old i love survinging not bulding "COMPLEX machines so that i can advance human technology to make a shovel.....over and over again!really boring and repetative we already gather food and fight mobs why make us make these retarded machines every time.I miss unlocking all my tools on(basic survivaly tools any fool should already know about) and just survive as a survivor not a machine building weirdo OVER and OVER again.gets old why would i forget how to make a damn shovel in the next world, KEEPTHE OLD RESEARCH System (optional)Also Please tell me how to make dark armor these dark besats are beating me upI think i need nightmare fuel from where to get sword and armor but where? I need dark sword and nightmare armor to get the fuel.It that all I need how to I make this thingslSorry for going off topic but PLEASE let the old research system be optional me, and alot of other people HATe this redundance.Its already hard enough that the wolrds are apparantly gonna get harder and harder, comon, you dont go to a new world and forget to learn how to use a SHOVELthis researching is rediculas and researching right now is as retardded as ever.THe only worthless part of game.(dont forget to explain the dark armor and sword to me please but stay on topic for the devs" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palpetinus Posted February 13, 2013 Share Posted February 13, 2013 You DO realise you are the only one who is raging about it like that?All the others say it may be a bit silly, but they accept it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xPsYchOxMoNkeYx Posted February 13, 2013 Share Posted February 13, 2013 Why did you post this in two different threads? Also, please improve your typing? (I'd say grammar but its definitely not just that) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alvhem Posted February 13, 2013 Share Posted February 13, 2013 I do agree that the shovel should be unlocked from the start, otherwise i think that the new research system is fantastic.I it's boring to make 2 machines every time you start a new world? well you have to make campfires to every time you start over.I don't see the problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palpetinus Posted February 13, 2013 Share Posted February 13, 2013 Why did you post this in two different threads? Also, please improve your typing? (I'd say grammar but its definitely not just that)Well, i understand why he opened a new thread for it, even if it is copy&paste.I mean, people won't go to a beardling thread when they dislike the new research system.I do agree that the shovel should be unlocked from the start, otherwise i think that the new research system is fantastic.I it's boring to make 2 machines every time you start a new world? well you have to make campfires to every time you start over.I don't see the problem.Yeah, the shovel thing is kinda strange..And what i already said: When it's really that big of a problem, take Wickerbottom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maminas Posted February 13, 2013 Share Posted February 13, 2013 You DO realise you are the only one who is raging about it like that?All the others say it may be a bit silly, but they accept it.Hey, I'm tired of reading your posts,you act like a freaking fanboy. The guy said his piece you don't need to be so negative about it. The game is not perfect,in fact that's why it's in beta. We have all rights to criticize game all we want and how we want. On topic, I agree, right now it feels okay,but after some time I'm pretty sure it willt get tedious to always build science machine. I believe they should have two options, current and past research type Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silvi Posted February 13, 2013 Share Posted February 13, 2013 The old research system was a bit stale after you unlocked everything and rendered people able to construct way too many things right off the bat. It was simply OP and broken. The new one is definitely an improvement. There's no way to please everyone, I suppose.But no, we don't need the old research way. It made the game too damn easy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cryten Posted February 13, 2013 Share Posted February 13, 2013 (edited) You sir are a quack, they annouced the old reasearch method was disapeering in November last year: http://forums.kleientertainment.com/showthread.php?1822-New-Research-Plan The game has always been striving for rogue likeness and kevin has publicly stated he disliked what it made players do. Now I get there can be some frustrations over reseting when you lose a game but I personally think its quite a charming system and generally find it quite easy to build what I want quickly now instead of having to spend hours farming plants to feed into the machine. Your post comes across as plain ranting, lacking critque that will get proper discussion flowing. *edit* I thought I would address one point: Going to new world you keep your research its only in death that you lose it (new game or dead). Edited February 13, 2013 by Cryten Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GamingGorman Posted February 13, 2013 Share Posted February 13, 2013 No way, the new research is way better and actually helps make the game challenging. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ucw Posted February 13, 2013 Share Posted February 13, 2013 Speaking of research, what to do with things like melty marbles and rope knots that we dig up in the graveyards now that the old research method is gone? I am assuming that there is a use for them that I have not yet unlocked... ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silvi Posted February 13, 2013 Share Posted February 13, 2013 Speaking of research, what to do with things like melty marbles and rope knots that we dig up in the graveyards now that the old research method is gone? I am assuming that there is a use for them that I have not yet unlocked... ?pig king -> gold Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InSpace Posted February 13, 2013 Share Posted February 13, 2013 http://dont-starve-game.wikia.com/wiki/Gravedigger_Items There you can see each items worth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sebster22 Posted February 13, 2013 Share Posted February 13, 2013 You give them to the pig king for gold.Also i think the new research method is just fine, probably because you need the patience to appreciate it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ucw Posted February 13, 2013 Share Posted February 13, 2013 Thank you re: items for gold! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palpetinus Posted February 13, 2013 Share Posted February 13, 2013 Hey, I'm tired of reading your posts,you act like a freaking fanboy. The guy said his piece you don't need to be so negative about it. The game is not perfect,in fact that's why it's in beta. We have all rights to criticize game all we want and how we want. On topic, I agree, right now it feels okay,but after some time I'm pretty sure it willt get tedious to always build science machine. I believe they should have two options, current and past research typeOh, so calling a game's new feature to be bull**** over and over, and calling the whole game completely boring and repetitive several times is now neutral critizism... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlSy Posted February 13, 2013 Share Posted February 13, 2013 I 100% agree with you!!! I don't like the new Research that much!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_Q_ Posted February 13, 2013 Share Posted February 13, 2013 The new research system is much better than the old. Now I can experience early game again, cause I don't have all items from the start, and early game is fun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flamingfurball Posted February 13, 2013 Share Posted February 13, 2013 gets old why would i forget how to make a damn shovel in the next worldbecause you DIED Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RootBeerFloat Posted February 13, 2013 Author Share Posted February 13, 2013 Okay no need for any of you to be *******s, I was just saying....thatalot of us find that having to build a new researching machine(s) EVERy time we enter new world is rediculous/ tediousI know that some of you "Omg game too easy for casuals" But alot ofus doing that same **** building some stupid machine that doesnt make sense to resarche tents...shovels....bug nets?What happens do we beceom pre school kid retards everytime we start a new map and have to built giant machines to learn how to make ..... bug nets,,,,, rakes, and shovelsAnyways i conclude my point iwth..... at least to appease boath the ultra hardcore oh this game is easymode bro! people.WE could also please the plenty of people(notblabbering fanboiys") that think this **** is annoying and redundant?Solution? Make research option OPTIONal like it was inthe last patch.Whats wrong ia wrong that...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flamingfurball Posted February 13, 2013 Share Posted February 13, 2013 Okay no need for any of you to be *******s, I was just saying....thatalot of us find that having to build a new researching machine(s) EVERy time we enter new world is rediculous/ tediousI know that some of you "Omg game too easy for casuals" But alot ofus doing that same **** building some stupid machine that doesnt make sense to resarche tents...shovels....bug nets?What happens do we beceom pre school kid retards everytime we start a new map and have to built giant machines to learn how to make ..... bug nets,,,,, rakes, and shovelsAnyways i conclude my point iwth..... at least to appease boath the ultra hardcore oh this game is easymode bro! people.WE could also please the plenty of people(notblabbering fanboiys") that think this **** is annoying and redundant?Solution? Make research option OPTIONal like it was inthe last patch.Whats wrong ia wrong that......well im a casual as welli think the new reserch system is better then the old one. the old one basicly ment as Soon as a new patch came out you could spend all those thousands of unused reserch points to instantly gain the ability to make whatever you wanted.the essance of a survival game is learning how to survive, and if you fail then you should be starting over from square oneif you really like the old system better ask someone to make a mod that makes everything buildable without the need for a machine.but it shouldnt be part of the core game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomily Posted February 13, 2013 Share Posted February 13, 2013 You may not have understood, but three months ago it was already a known fact that the old research mechanic would disappear.People always say "optional, optional" but the game have to follow a line of thought.If you die, you are DEAD. Making another character means that you are starting ALL OVER again. You don't know how to make a shovel. You need to learn.Now, what if the devs put the old research optional again, but if you die you UNLEARN everything from your last save, and have to research a bunch of junk just to unlock a shovel, would you still want it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archblue1206 Posted February 13, 2013 Share Posted February 13, 2013 i don't think the new research system is tedious..i think its a really nice part of the mechanics...i love the new research system and i think it is leaps and bounce way better that the old one,but i also don't agree with the shovel to be not available when you start a new game.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flamingfurball Posted February 13, 2013 Share Posted February 13, 2013 i think the reason for the shovel is because all you need to do is find 1 grave and a pig king and you can easily have 8 gold with just a shovel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archblue1206 Posted February 13, 2013 Share Posted February 13, 2013 and please be respectful..im sorry but your criticism about the game is just rude.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archblue1206 Posted February 13, 2013 Share Posted February 13, 2013 i think the reason for the shovel is because all you need to do is find 1 grave and a pig king and you can easily have 8 gold with just a shovelyeah but,i have an OCD to dug up the tree stumps! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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