Please Make the new Research OPTIONAL

[Arkadiusz103PL]

Yes please make optional again.Its ****ed up

[Flamingfurball]

yeah but,i have an OCD to dug up the tree stumps!

i dont really like treestumps either...you could always burn them? (atleast i think you can?)but honestly finding your first gold nugget for your science machine should be hard, after that when you have a shovel you can find one area with graves and literaly just have 40 stright away

[JoeW]

Tone down the language and keep things respectful. If that can't be done, the thread will be shut down. If you have criticism, great, but make it constructive or keep it to yourself.

[Diezen]

So instead of gathering material for the thing you want to build which will instantly get a build without wasting materials dumping them into a research machine; you want to grind and waste roots, gold, etc to unlock single recipies at a time by standing next to a cheap or cheapish machine...The game IS still in beta, and things are bound to change. You can't really just go HURR I HATE CHANGE without much of a logical backing to your argument. YOU are surviving, if you die you have to restart, and you shouldn't magically remember everything your previous character knew. At least you can keep the same world.I personally like the new research system. Gather materials for the thing you want, stand next to machine and craft it. Badabing no grinding and wasting resources farming points.

[Avelena713]

OP, you seem to be insistent that the thing that makes you so (obviously incredibly) angry about the new research system is losing your research when you go to a new world. That's not entirely true. As has been pointed out before, you only 'lose' it when you die and thus start an entirely new game that way. If you're using the Device and world-hopping within the same game, you don't lose any of your research as far as I understand it. Yes, you need to make a new Science Machine, but I assume you could pre-build a second one with your resources from your current world and just take it with you. Even if that wouldn't work - I've never tried it myself - the Science Machine is not all that expensive.

If it's losing the research when you die that upsets you, I'm afraid I can't really help you. You should lose everything when you die, that's the philosophy of the survival game. Coming into the game from the beginning with everything already researched makes starting a new game when you die boring. You can jump right back to where you were with only a little effort. It takes a lot of the 'survival' aspect out. It's not 'losing your progress', it's 'dying and starting a new game'. Why should you keep the research when you lose everything else? It doesn't make sense.

I had nothing really against the old system, though I like the new one better. It feels a lot less tedious in actual play. If you stop focusing on 'I lose my stuff omg' and look at the differences between the two systems, you're probably using a lot fewer precious resources with the new system/prototypes than you would be just feeding all your spare rope into the Science Machine for points forever. And you can unlock the things you're going to use a lot faster, too.

[Avarice]

If you don't die you keep everything you have researched when you enter a new world. I'd love to know what casuals would be doing if all the things they hate was removed from the game.New game - build base - sit and stare at screen with nothing to do.

[RootBeerFloat]

Tone down the language and keep things respectful. If that can't be done, the thread will be shut down. If you have criticism, great, but make it constructive or keep it to yourself.

Okay sorry everyobody in this thread, last night i was drunk and on some other stuff.I was so madSo i got killed after finally building(after many major battles and stuff) I finally built my two research machines. Then i lost everything and thought i had to go through that stuff to build a shovel and bring materials for new machines to every world!I also had completed my escape mechinism, i was gonna use it, but i didnt know how reseearch worked.Bi was WRONG. Im sorry for being mean, i thought that instead of every time you died, you had to research new stuff in every world, i hope ppl aggree, that is too much.But yes if you die you should need to re research.actually i kind of like new resarch system now.....LOLI love this game!Sorry for hating new system so much, I am hardcore player too.(i dont mind new research anymore, but mayb it should be optional? idk) Edited February 14, 2013 by RootBeerFloat

[archblue1206]

Okay sorry everyobody in this thread, last night i was drunk and on some other stuff.I was so madSo i got killed after finally building(after many major battles and stuff) I finally built my two research machines. Then i lost everything and thought i had to go through that stuff to build a shovel and bring materials for new machines to every world!I also had completed my escape mechinism, i was gonna use it, but i didnt know how reseearch worked.Bi was WRONG. Im sorry for being mean, i thought that instead of every time you died, you had to research new stuff in every world, i hope ppl aggree, that is too much.But yes if you die you should need to re research.actually i kind of like new resarch system now.....LOLI love this game!Sorry for hating new system so much, I am hardcore player too.(i dont mind new research anymore, but mayb it should be optional? idk)

don't drink too much rootbeerfloat..

[Kender]

Well, add a new character whose advantage is no longer need those machines, then problem solved.

[Tomily]

Well, add a new character whose advantage is no longer need those machines, then problem solved.

Wickerbottom it is. Sort of.