Octyabr Posted November 2, 2017 Share Posted November 2, 2017 1 hour ago, AlexRou said: Soo who's gona be the first one to make a CPU with it? I was thinking the same when I was watching the stream. You can even make one with dominoes! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LZ96 Posted November 2, 2017 Share Posted November 2, 2017 havnt look at it yet, but love u ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saturnus Posted November 2, 2017 Share Posted November 2, 2017 1 hour ago, AlexRou said: Soo who's gona be the first one to make a CPU with it? A better question is, who is going to be the first to make a CPU in ONI that you can play ONI on? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeadfootSlim Posted November 2, 2017 Share Posted November 2, 2017 19 minutes ago, mdallicardillo said: That's a lot of area for logic... I'm going to go ahead and put this out there now, but it is going to be amazing if/when the end of the tech tree includes a "microprocessor" of sorts that you build in only a few squares and has inputs and outputs that then opens a new "build" window and allows you to build logic circuits for that specific processor I don't even have my hands on THIS upgrade yet and I'm salivating over the thought of it! I think having an additional need for space is suitable, but it'd be nice if there were a tech upgrade to wirelessly transmit from a circuit board to the relevant device. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Octyabr Posted November 2, 2017 Share Posted November 2, 2017 Just now, LeadfootSlim said: I think having an additional need for space is suitable, but it'd be nice if there were a tech upgrade to wirelessly transmit from a circuit board to the relevant device. Oh yea! I can almost see it: radio emitter, radio receiver, channels from 1 to 10, with Jetsons-like antennae! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goboking Posted November 2, 2017 Share Posted November 2, 2017 Dive in and play with these new features now in their unfinished state or wait two weeks and get the bug-free experience? That's a tough choice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Octyabr Posted November 3, 2017 Share Posted November 3, 2017 3 minutes ago, goboking said: Dive in and play with these new features now in their unfinished state or wait two weeks and get the bug-free experience? That's a tough choice. Dive in, find bugs, report them, they'll really appreciate it. (They are not that many anyway) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Byste Posted November 3, 2017 Share Posted November 3, 2017 In this thread, programmers orgasming. I won't lie, I'm really happy about having sensors and that they're distinct from power wiring, but I'm not looking forward to being inundated by the "look at my calculator" "look at my CPU" etc posts. I'm not sure what the point of this conductive wire is. Before this update, we had 1KW wire circuits with transformers to connect them to heavi-watt backbones with all the power producers on it, as well as any big power consumers like aquatuner or maybe tepidizer. Conductive wire doesn't have a transformer that matches its 2KW wattage, so the only way to use it effectively is on discrete circuits with their own power producers. I'm not a fan. Also, the decor penalty is just as high as heavi-watt wire!? What gives? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brummbar7 Posted November 3, 2017 Share Posted November 3, 2017 Loaded my OI world and all priorities were reset to 5. Anyone else? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Risu Posted November 3, 2017 Share Posted November 3, 2017 1 minute ago, Byste said: Conductive wire doesn't have a transformer that matches its 2KW wattage, so the only way to use it effectively is on discrete circuits with their own power producers. You can use two transformers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Byste Posted November 3, 2017 Share Posted November 3, 2017 1 minute ago, Risu said: You can use two transformers. If true, then that is better than nothing, but still potentially hard to justify versus running 2 1KW circuits Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Octyabr Posted November 3, 2017 Share Posted November 3, 2017 2 minutes ago, Byste said: I'm not looking forward to being inundated by the "look at my calculator" "look at my CPU" etc posts. For people who isn't into programming that might be quite a breakthrough, let them brag about their new knowledge. 3 minutes ago, Byste said: Conductive wire doesn't have a transformer that matches its 2KW wattage, so the only way to use it effectively is on discrete circuits with their own power producers. I'm not a fan Maybe they'll raise the output of the current transformers? for now, two transformers (or a transformer and a battery) should do. 3 minutes ago, Byste said: Also, the decor penalty is just as high as heavi-watt wire!? What gives? Inheritance? copy-paste? I dunno, definitively not intended. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Risu Posted November 3, 2017 Share Posted November 3, 2017 Just now, Byste said: If true, then that is better than nothing, but still potentially hard to justify versus running 2 1KW circuits It can also go in tiles, so might prove useful going to aquatuner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Byste Posted November 3, 2017 Share Posted November 3, 2017 Just now, Risu said: It can also go in tiles, so might prove useful going to aquatuner. Yes I thought of this, it could be situationally easier to accommodate (probably not though, given heavi-watt tile) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saturnus Posted November 3, 2017 Share Posted November 3, 2017 15 minutes ago, Byste said: Conductive wire doesn't have a transformer that matches its 2KW wattage, so the only way to use it effectively is on discrete circuits with their own power producers. I'm not a fan. Also, the decor penalty is just as high as heavi-watt wire!? What gives? Transformers were never limited to 1KW... you can (and could) easily pull 20KW on the output of a transformer. It was always the wiring that set the limit. You just had to use heavi-watt wire before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goboking Posted November 3, 2017 Share Posted November 3, 2017 2 minutes ago, Saturnus said: Transformers were never limited to 1KW... you can (and could) easily pull 20KW on the output of a transformer. It was always the wiring that set the limit. You just had to use heavi-watt wire before. If this is accurate than the heavy watt connector plate is going to be used even less than it already is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moggles Posted November 3, 2017 Share Posted November 3, 2017 34 minutes ago, Saturnus said: A better question is, who is going to be the first to make a CPU in ONI that you can play ONI on? I would dread that optimization. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saturnus Posted November 3, 2017 Share Posted November 3, 2017 2 minutes ago, goboking said: If this is accurate than the heavy watt connector plate is going to be used even less than it already is. Note how the power input goes only the first transformer, and is connected to the other transformers on the output of that. There's an aquatuner, a tepidizer, and 4 pumps connected to that first transformer, or 3120W. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chemie Posted November 3, 2017 Share Posted November 3, 2017 39 minutes ago, Byste said: If true, then that is better than nothing, but still potentially hard to justify versus running 2 1KW circuits I don't get the point. I have 1k and 20k circuits. Why 2k if I need to tear out the 1k and/or run two transformers? Seems very limited use scenarios. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suicide commando Posted November 3, 2017 Share Posted November 3, 2017 Can't wait to make a flipflop or some memory circuits with the automation stuff. The big thing from these automations though is that you can now seperate your control and sensors from the actual machine wiring. So you can put a sensor in one place, and the pump it controls somewhere else. This will be very useful for bringing in things to your base / main storage areas of say water from remote geysers, all you need is a pump at the geyser, hooked up to a switch at the resevoir that yells if the resevoir is gettling low. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saturnus Posted November 3, 2017 Share Posted November 3, 2017 2 minutes ago, chemie said: I don't get the point. I have 1k and 20k circuits. Why 2k if I need to tear out the 1k and/or run two transformers? Seems very limited use scenarios. Again... you do not need 2 transformers. Transformer have never been output limited. I have no idea why people think they are. And I just demonstrated above that they aren't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saturnus Posted November 3, 2017 Share Posted November 3, 2017 2 minutes ago, suicide commando said: Can't wait to make a flipflop or some memory circuits with the automation stuff. The big thing from these automations though is that you can now seperate your control and sensors from the actual machine wiring. So you can put a sensor in one place, and the pump it controls somewhere else. This will be very useful for bringing in things to your base / main storage areas of say water from remote geysers, all you need is a pump at the geyser, hooked up to a switch at the resevoir that yells if the resevoir is gettling low. Even better. You can have a few thermal sensor in two geysers and a comparator array will select to pump from the geyser where the water has the lowest temperature. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chemie Posted November 3, 2017 Share Posted November 3, 2017 18 minutes ago, Saturnus said: Again... you do not need 2 transformers. Transformer have never been output limited. I have no idea why people think they are. And I just demonstrated above that they aren't. Does not change my comment. I am not doing to tear out 1k system to eliminate a transformer and I use 20k heavy wire for everything outisde of base anyway. I have not had a need for 2k circuits. I have not had a need for a silly pole either. Or logic circuits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chemie Posted November 3, 2017 Share Posted November 3, 2017 22 minutes ago, suicide commando said: Can't wait to make a flipflop or some memory circuits with the automation stuff. The big thing from these automations though is that you can now seperate your control and sensors from the actual machine wiring. So you can put a sensor in one place, and the pump it controls somewhere else. This will be very useful for bringing in things to your base / main storage areas of say water from remote geysers, all you need is a pump at the geyser, hooked up to a switch at the resevoir that yells if the resevoir is gettling low. so instead of just running power to that far out area, you now need to run power and control wire? Not sure I see the benefit. (I just ran the power through the switch at the base for geyser pumps anyway) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Risu Posted November 3, 2017 Share Posted November 3, 2017 25 minutes ago, suicide commando said: Can't wait to make a flipflop or some memory circuits with the automation stuff. Just tested a flip flop and found the logic circuits are loaded in a false state, so everything breaks when you load a save. So... still needs work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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