Quyzbuk Posted July 20, 2016 Share Posted July 20, 2016 Just curious for the sake of having something to chat about (and one secret-that's-only-somewhat-secret-now ulterior motive). How do you rank the characters in terms of general difficulty - list your ranks in the form of, 1) Just from reading what they do (i.e. a hands-off perspective), or 2) Based off of your own usage in-game (hands-on). Feel free to elaborate on your list if you want, but try to keep the entirety of your ranking based on challenge offered and not on any other external factors. Mine based on criteria #2 goes like this (from least challenging to actually offering some challenge) - Wolfgang & Wigfrid - WX & Wicker - Wilson, Willow, Wendy, Woodie - Webber - Maxwell & Wes (Not really much of a surprise for those who've played with me I'd imagine) Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/68967-which-character-offers-you-the-most-the-challenge-to-play-as/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
imsomony Posted July 20, 2016 Share Posted July 20, 2016 Using #2, in-game play: - Easiest for me are Wicker and WX. I know more than enough about managing sanity, and Wicker's early-game crafting is awesome for building bases before Winter starts. WX starts out weak, but is the most OP once he buffs up with gears - can tank anything and everything, pretty much! - Wigfrid. I'm a compulsive seed/berry/carrot hoarder, but it takes some time to get out of that mentality. - Wilson, played a ton of him in DS originally and he's the standard "balanced" character. - Willow/Wendy/Wolfgang are about even with one another in ranking. Just not really a fan of any of their perks or their struggles, it takes me away from enjoying the game, and that's what creates the challenge. - Webber, because pig friends are my favorite. The spider-friend perk just doesn't outweigh the drawback. - Woodie. I strongly dislike werebeaver. - Most difficult is Maxwell due to his weak health, I take stupid risks A LOT. Wes has the worst stats of all, sure .... but I love that little mime, the "challenge" is pure fun, he's outside of ranking completely. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/68967-which-character-offers-you-the-most-the-challenge-to-play-as/#findComment-794924 Share on other sites More sharing options...
leonseye Posted July 20, 2016 Share Posted July 20, 2016 Wes is unequivocally the worst at everything, so mathematically it would have to be him. But in reality, I play in worlds w/ pigs and merms and the like turned up, so Webber has a difficult time finding safety. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/68967-which-character-offers-you-the-most-the-challenge-to-play-as/#findComment-794926 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wexton Posted July 20, 2016 Share Posted July 20, 2016 I always rank the characters on overpowereds,default ones,interesting ones and completly useless challenges OVERPOWEREDS: The ones wich surviving is really easy because of their stats and abilities. stuff like WX-78,Wigfrid,Normal ds's maxwell,wickerbotton. Defaults: Are those wich the gameplay its not really different such as Wilson,Willow,Woddie,Walany,Wilbur(this can change if you use their abilities well) Interesting ones: those that doent makes your life easier like with overpowereds but neither make them a true hell like the next rank Warly,Webber,Woodlegs etc. completly useless garbage Funny characters to play because of the challenge they are: even while it sounds like i hate them i actually like to play with them Wes,dst's Maxwell. I haven't played a lot with all the characters yet so maybe i didn't see the potencial of some of them. Anyways all this ranking can be very different for each person depending on their experiences with the characters Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/68967-which-character-offers-you-the-most-the-challenge-to-play-as/#findComment-794927 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Developer ImDaMisterL Posted July 20, 2016 Developer Share Posted July 20, 2016 I actually find it the hardest to play as Wigfrid. I was not made to be carnivorous. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/68967-which-character-offers-you-the-most-the-challenge-to-play-as/#findComment-794932 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoobie101 Posted July 20, 2016 Share Posted July 20, 2016 YAY LIST MAKING! *ahem* 11, Easiest, Wendy: She gets a complete tank of an ally who does a good majority of Wendy's fighting for her. Abigail has waaay better health and damage than Wendy, AND has an AOE attack. She's a very easy character. Basically Wilson who does a little less damage, but owns a tank. 10, Wilson: Average stats. No drawbacks. A beard. 'nuff said. 9, Wigfrid: After you're established and not in the exploring phase, this character becomes WICKED overpowered. All the filling crock pot dishes are meat, and she gains the other two stats from combat. Easy spider murder for HP and Sanity. You're good to go! Plus, her armor and weapon give you a massive head start on the meat gathering front, and will continue to serve that purpose for majority of the game unless caves are enabled. 8, Willow: She negates sanity drain at night (and actually GAINS sanity) just by being near fire. I've also always considered her a support character because her fiery tendencies means she always has a good pocket full of ash for salves, and she'll usually have her lighter to support you if you don't have a torch. (Her recent ability to extinguish smoldering objects AND Bernie working for everyone helps support my opinion of this) 7, Wolfgang: I... really don't know much about this character or his true potential because I played as him ONCE and have hated him ever since. I don't have massive Wolfgang tips up my sleeves, so his position on this list is really phoned in. *shrug* 6, WX-78: It has a bit of a slow start with it's low stats, but eventually WX-78 has super high stats and can tank stuff ALMOST as well as the overpowered Abigail! Combined with Wickerbottom, he can overcharge for quite a bit (I'm not sure how bad that was nerfed, so I tried to make that statement generic). He also has the ability to eat spoiled food which is a nice little touch. His disadvantage at the end of all this? Takes a bit of damage in the rain. Although without protective gear it can be lethal. 5, Webber: This character is pretty easy to use for EXPERIENCED players, but new people will defiantly be confused by him. He can confuse them to think all pigs are always evil, guardian pig confusion, ect. Plus, spiders combat wise aren't good for much other than spider wars, combat wise they're pretty squishy (unless you amass a huge army). Basically, he's pretty easy to use, but his learning curve is steep. 4, Wickerbottom:Wickerbottom works her way to the top in a similar fashion of Webber. She's VERY powerful in the right hands, but some people might have issues with being unable to sleep, and her books require experimentation to figure out how to best use them (unless you cheat and use the wiki). Plus, to get all her books, you have to play for quite a bit OR be good at getting a head start on magic, making you unable to reach her full potential a lot of the time. 3, Woodie: This character is hard to play, not because he's complicated, because he's hot garbadge. I really didn't understand the pain of playing him, until I ALMOST DIED TO A SINGLE SPIDER. Grass suit protection is ridiculous, and all he's good for is getting wood. You need 5 stacks of 20 wood? Woodies your man! Need anything else? Forget it! 2, Maxwell: As a character he's super squishy, as a shadow clone who can't kite very well, he's STILL squishy. You'll need heavy armor and at least 1 minion to take down things like Koalefants easily unless you kite. But kiting takes a lot of time, and you make 1 wrong move WITHOUT heavy armor, and you lose a HUGE chunk of health. The passive sanity regen is nice, but not as high as in single player, and when insane it takes longer to go back to sanity ONLY using passive regen (which could be good or bad depending on the situation). 1, Hardest, Wes: Lose more hunger, lose more sanity, can't hit hard, has no personality because he mimes everything, loses sanity from blowing balloons. An awful character, but we love him anyway. In case you couldn't tell, I've mentally made this list A LOT. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/68967-which-character-offers-you-the-most-the-challenge-to-play-as/#findComment-794935 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikeadatrix Posted July 20, 2016 Share Posted July 20, 2016 2 hours ago, ImDaMisterL said: I actually find it the hardest to play as Wigfrid. I was not made to be carnivorous. Exactly. #WigfridNewWes? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/68967-which-character-offers-you-the-most-the-challenge-to-play-as/#findComment-794983 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nullum Posted July 20, 2016 Share Posted July 20, 2016 My mentality is that there isn't even any challenging characters. There fun characters to play as!! Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/68967-which-character-offers-you-the-most-the-challenge-to-play-as/#findComment-794995 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quyzbuk Posted July 20, 2016 Author Share Posted July 20, 2016 15 minutes ago, Aeschwutz said: My mentality is that there isn't even any challenging characters. Is this a problem? Play Light's Out mode, that should help you mentally set a baseline. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/68967-which-character-offers-you-the-most-the-challenge-to-play-as/#findComment-794996 Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnonymousKoala Posted July 20, 2016 Share Posted July 20, 2016 5 hours ago, Wexton said: I always rank the characters on overpowereds,default ones,interesting ones and completly useless challenges OVERPOWEREDS: The ones wich surviving is really easy because of their stats and abilities. stuff like WX-78,Wigfrid,Normal ds's maxwell,wickerbotton. Defaults: Are those wich the gameplay its not really different such as Wilson,Willow,Woddie(this can change if you use their abilities well) Interesting ones: those that doent makes your life easier like with overpowereds but neither make them a true hell like the next rank Warly,Webber,Wilbur etc. completly useless garbage Funny characters to play because of the challenge they are: even while it sounds like i hate them i actually like to play with them Wes,dst's Maxwell,Woodlegs I haven't played a lot with all the characters yet so maybe i didn't see the potencial of some of them. Why is Normal DS Maxwell so much better than DST's in your eyes? I'm genuinely curious. I agree almost entirely with the post above though in my rankings, only that I'll put Wilbur and Warly in the bottom of the barrel(One of them is boring as hell and the other is discount wes with no abilities other than to survive his hunger) and Woodlegs in interesting because he depends on RNG, pretty much. Oh yeah and move DST Maxwell to somewhere. I don't know where. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/68967-which-character-offers-you-the-most-the-challenge-to-play-as/#findComment-795023 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wexton Posted July 20, 2016 Share Posted July 20, 2016 21 minutes ago, AnonymousKoala said: Why is Normal DS Maxwell so much better than DST's in your eyes? I'm genuinely curious. I agree almost entirely with the post above though in my rankings, only that I'll put Wilbur and Warly in the bottom of the barrel(One of them is boring as hell and the other is discount wes with no abilities other than to survive his hunger) and Woodlegs in interesting because he depends on RNG, pretty much. Oh yeah and move DST Maxwell to somewhere. I don't know where. Why is Normal DS Maxwell so much better than DST's ?Mostly because of the sanity nerf,on the normal don't starve the funny thing of maxwell was that you were able to do everything you want involving sanity xd.Anyways i like the nerf for balancing the shadows and for lore. Maxwell is one of those characters that i dint played that much(i only played a world of 60 days with him) I think i leaved Wilbur on there by accident,i'll edit it and put him on defaults mostly because of that(its boring as hell)and about Warly i only played him before he got nerfed,i should do another world with him and try the new version.he is on interesting ones because i liked the fact about his hunger,and the ability to carry a pot.i leaved him on interesting ones cause he made me have problems with hunger for the first time on the entire game,and didnt leaved him on challenges because i dint saw him that hard.about woodlegs i didn't played almost nothing but i liked the idea about the treasures.but having constant sanity loss on island seemed really challenging to me.About dst maxwell i still need to give him a good try (edit)Actually i forgot the fact that the ship had infinite canon,i'll move him to interesting ones Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/68967-which-character-offers-you-the-most-the-challenge-to-play-as/#findComment-795027 Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnonymousKoala Posted July 20, 2016 Share Posted July 20, 2016 18 minutes ago, Wexton said: Why is Normal DS Maxwell so much better than DST's ?Mostly because of the sanity nerf,on the normal don't starve the funny thing of maxwell was that you were able to do everything you want involving sanity xd.Anyways i like the nerf for balancing the shadows and for lore. Maxwell is one of those characters that i dint played that much(i only played a world of 60 days with him) I think i leaved Wilbur on there by accident,i'll edit it and put him on defaults mostly because of that(its boring as hell)and about Warly i only played him before he got nerfed,i should do another world with him and try the new version.he is on interesting ones because i liked the fact about his hunger,and the ability to carry a pot.i leaved him on interesting ones cause he made me have problems with hunger for the first time on the entire game,and didnt leaved him on challenges because i dint saw him that hard.about woodlegs i didn't played almost nothing but i liked the idea about the treasures.but having constant sanity loss on island seemed really challenging to me.About dst maxwell i still need to give him a good try yeah, but sanity's easy to manage anyway. Maxwell in DST is a different character basically, even better to a good bunch of people. In DST he's a summoner that basically is discount wicker in terms of mass harvesting of stuff, can read her books, has the added sanity perk, can farm nightmare fuel like no one else, etc. (last 3 are singleplayer too) Old Warly wasn't very good either. He was always lacking in the "qualities beyond balancing the downsides" department. and when the downsides became worse...so did he. BTW its not an issue/interesting thing. Live off of meaty stews. Because of how much they restore, you don't even need to worry about him being a picky eater. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/68967-which-character-offers-you-the-most-the-challenge-to-play-as/#findComment-795029 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arlesienne Posted July 20, 2016 Share Posted July 20, 2016 10 hours ago, Aeschwutz said: My mentality is that there isn't even any challenging characters. Is this a problem? Team Challenge-Seekers here. I can play anyone. I adore Willow as a character, same with Webber, Wes and WX. Wolfgang, I enjoy playing with. Especially when he wears his survivor head. Yeah, I'm cheap. Guilty as charged. I tend to get many Maxwells, Wigfrids, Wendys and Wickerbottoms, followed by Woodies and Wilsons, so I try to pick someone else. But to tell the truth, I pretty much use customs for the challenge when playing on own servers, because even Wes has become too easy. He is just a Wendy without her good perks, cannot examine anything (a drawback for me), has slightly lower stats than the average and a faster drain. Oh, and a deadly ranged weapon at the cost of sanity. So I use "the worse Wes" most of the time. I like the challenge of seasons and the general squishiness. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/68967-which-character-offers-you-the-most-the-challenge-to-play-as/#findComment-795129 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diezen Posted July 30, 2016 Share Posted July 30, 2016 On 7/19/2016 at 10:55 PM, Scoobie101 said: 1, Hardest, Wes: Lose more hunger, lose more sanity, can't hit hard, has no personality because he mimes everything, loses sanity from blowing balloons. An awful character, but we love him anyway. On 7/20/2016 at 0:10 PM, Arlesienne said: He is just a Wendy without her good perks, cannot examine anything (a drawback for me), has slightly lower stats than the average and a faster drain. You guys say his examinations are a drawback. But can any other character flail around like Mettaton by spamming examines to amuse your fellow survivors? I think not. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/68967-which-character-offers-you-the-most-the-challenge-to-play-as/#findComment-798421 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clwnbaby Posted July 30, 2016 Share Posted July 30, 2016 For me difficulty-wise they all the same. But when it comes to which characters are a pain in the @$$ to play as: 1. Wes- I like to run around and not eat for days sometimes and I can't do this with Wes. Mother F-er always gotta be fed and that just annoys me. 2. Willow- By far the biggest pain in the @$$ to play as because in my early game I aim for and like to run around crazy to farm nightmare fuel. With Willow after the rework I can't do that anymore and it DRIVES ME NUTS!!! A whole chunk of my early game is taken away from me cause she cant walk around crazy without freezing. Otherwise these characters are just the same as the others for me. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/68967-which-character-offers-you-the-most-the-challenge-to-play-as/#findComment-798482 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperPsiPower Posted July 31, 2016 Share Posted July 31, 2016 21 hours ago, Clwnbaby said: For me difficulty-wise they all the same. But when it comes to which characters are a pain in the @$$ to play as: 1. Wes- I like to run around and not eat for days sometimes and I can't do this with Wes. Mother F-er always gotta be fed and that just annoys me. 2. Willow- By far the biggest pain in the @$$ to play as because in my early game I aim for and like to run around crazy to farm nightmare fuel. With Willow after the rework I can't do that anymore and it DRIVES ME NUTS!!! A whole chunk of my early game is taken away from me cause she cant walk around crazy without freezing. Otherwise these characters are just the same as the others for me. Wes is clearly OP, you casual! Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/68967-which-character-offers-you-the-most-the-challenge-to-play-as/#findComment-798840 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xena Posted October 13, 2016 Share Posted October 13, 2016 Characters I like: Woodie is probably the easiest character. I take advantage of his beaver thing and replanting for sanity is easy and good for building forests closer to camp. The hardest thing is keeping his sanity up after a full moon. But spiders can be caught in traps and Lucy is immortal. Wigfrid is second easiest, in my opinion. She's good for killing things quickly and starting armor. I can work around eating only meat. But it's basically necessary to fight with her and sometimes I don't wanna fight much. Wendy and her OP sister. Enough said. Wickerbottom and Maxwell are kind of tied I think. Their abilities are worthy but they are weak af. I used to use Wickerbottom on new servers for the knowledge, but I never got to the point of using the books. Maxwell's shadows are also handy, but maybe...not really worth much in exchange for the weaknesses, in my opinion, especially because I still have to pick things up and can only make a limited amount of shadow Max's. Maybe there's a side of his character I haven't learned about yet. Characters I don't really like: Willow has a lighter. Yippee, because we can't make torches or anything. Wes. Never played as him but he's apparently the weakest character. His doll is neat but I'm sorry Wes, I don't really understand why you're here. :v Characters I haven't played: Wes (see above) Wolfgang Wilson (because he's boring to me) Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/68967-which-character-offers-you-the-most-the-challenge-to-play-as/#findComment-824592 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arlesienne Posted October 13, 2016 Share Posted October 13, 2016 43 minutes ago, Xena said: Wes. Never played as him but he's apparently the weakest character. His doll is neat but I'm sorry Wes, I don't really understand why you're here. He's the one whose level is DEMIURGE IN DISGUISE. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/68967-which-character-offers-you-the-most-the-challenge-to-play-as/#findComment-824619 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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