Wolfgang's Rework

[Cookie95]

35 minutes ago, dip935 said:

Wolfgang and Wormwood are having a fight.
Probably because he ate the potatoes in front of him. (Potatoes were  friends)

I like how @HowlVoid and @Toros are the 2 ppl I mentioned as (some of) my favorite posters in my "forumite appreciation thread". I feel... conflicted?? 

[Lennard]

I just hope they make his character ability isn't about having a crafting tab where he makes items that he can use for various tasks and reasons.

Abilities like that make me feel like I'm playing a typical steam workshop character mod. 

 

 

[HowlVoid]

8 minutes ago, Geo95 said:

I like how @HowlVoid and @Toros are the 2 ppl I mentioned as (some of) my favorite posters in my "forumite appreciation thread". I feel... conflicted?? 

Don't worry about it, the arguments on the forum should never be taken seriously. When you're having an argument online you have one objective:

Survive

They get a little heated and you say things you don't mean. They bring out the worst in us but they are not a good example of what our characters are really like.

Me and @ArubaroBeefalo clash all the time but we still "haha" at each other. 

 

[ArubaroBeefalo]

2 minutes ago, HowlVoid said:

Don't worry about it, the arguments on the forum should never be taken seriously. When you're having an argument online you have one objective:

Survive

They get a little heated and you say things you don't mean. They bring out the worst in us but they are not a good example of what our characters are really like.

Me and @ArubaroBeefalo clash all the time but we still "haha" at each other. 

 

[Toroic]

1 hour ago, HowlVoid said:

I think I'll stop reading here.

I'm actively trying to make the forum a less toxic place and that includes refraining from partaking in debates made in bad faith. I know that I am also guilty of doing this myself. 

If you think me ignorant than there is no point in arguing with you. You don't care to hear my side of the conversation.

Respectfully, had you not stopped reading there you’d have understood the very necessary context of what I was saying, because I’m not saying you’re ignorant, I’m saying you’re speaking from a place of ignorance when you look at one of many changes and declare it OP/UP without knowing how they fit together.

The mod I made had numerous changes to nerf Wolfgang’s speed and defense but improve quality of life (like capping hunger drain and preventing animation stun) along with other utility perks (like carrying heavy objects with zero slowdown while mighty, and having your hands free to wield a cane or weapon while doing so).  

The goal was to make Wolf vs Wig a more interesting choice and be at similar power levels.  Less raw stats, more utility.  The sanity drain and more shadows is a double edged sword by design.  Fighting Deerclops you’re on a tight timer before you’ll potentially get dogpiled by shadows, but sanity is easy to manage otherwise.  It also doesn’t kick in until under 10% sanity, so a single shadow kill is enough to put you back into normal behavior and it doesn’t stack with bone helm.

Wolf’s team can use it, but he really can’t.

Numerous changes meant to work together to create more risk for the reward (damage is unchanged) and more team utility that plays into the strongman theme.

10 minutes ago, Geo95 said:

I like how @HowlVoid and @Toros are the 2 ppl I mentioned as (some of) my favorite posters in my "forumite appreciation thread". I feel... conflicted?? 

We can disagree without disrespect.  I have respect for @HowlVoid and we’re having a misunderstanding which I hope I’ve cleared up.

[Dextops]

1 hour ago, __IvoCZE__ said:

Actually, Wolfgang isnt german or russian, he is just europian.

well if he is russian technically he could be asian

[Mike23Ua]

So uh Facebook has just released news about a new ONI DLC coming out on December 16, ONI may not be related to DST but the date is… it could be a clue of When we are getting that Wolfgang Rework. And since we didn’t get a announcement of it today- we will likely get the announce on the 9th. 

Theres also still that completely real 2nd QoL that may or may not have been rescheduled into 2022 we still have no details about.

This is the final month of the 2021 Roadmap- Klei has absolutely nailed everything they said they were going to do and with 23 days left till Christmas, they’ve earned some Little Debbie White Christmas Tree Cakes and Mountain Dew Ginger Snap’d in my books.

(oddly a very yummy combination I would highly recommend to anyone wanting it to feel like Christmas.)

Anyway… 

The Wolfgang Rework will also bring- His Belongings Set, & Skins.

What do you guys think those might be??

AND finally- The final Twitch drop of 2021.. the Nautical Collection has been Mostly Boat Stuff (salt box, mast skin, steering helm skin, deck Illuminator skin) so what do you guys think the final Twitch drop this year will be? 
 

Come on guys tis the season for Speculation! 

[Owlrust]

I would just like some way for him to earn his mighty form aside from "cram food until 2x damage" with an interesting mechanic behind it. I'm sure Klei has already cooked up a great idea so I'm not worried. But if it's still easy to get his mighty form, I would like for Woodie's totems to not spoil.

...Speaking of...I'll be right back.

[SecretPizzaMan]

13 hours ago, __IvoCZE__ said:

Actually, Wolfgang isnt german or russian, he is just europian.

He's just a french communist ex member of the circus.

[Cheggf]

I would want his mightiness to affect the CHOP, MINE, and SMASH actions in addition to FIGHT. Then he'd have a bit of use outside of boss fights, being an expensive gatherer. He should also carry heavy objects better since he's the strong man.

But who knows, maybe Klei will do something even better than that and surprise me.

16 hours ago, Geo95 said:

Truth is his current 10% extra sanity drain just feels too negligible. In fact if it weren't for his character description I never would have known. If they choose to keep this as a downside for him I hope they make it more significant.

Most characters have no real downsides and the only time a rework has affected a character's downside is when Wendy's downside got removed because Abigail changes her -25% into a +15.5% now. I don't know why people always complain about Wolfgang's downsides when his 1.5-3x hunger drain is one of the biggest downsides in the game compared to things like "Shadows take slightly longer to fight", "Crafting makes you slightly hungrier", "If you're wet you take an unnoticeable amount of damage", and "If it's winter and you're using clothes instead of a thermal stone you will lose heat very very slightly faster".

[SinancoTheBest]

17 hours ago, Duck986 said:

Klei will probably add a special tab for him because every character except Willow got its unique crafting tab after its rework

Willow AND Woodie. And besides, amongst the new characters, Wortox and Wurt don't have character specific tabs either. I think there is a high chance Wolfgang won't be receiving a new tab, as his rework won't be centered around too many new crafts, unless he's being designed to build a gym. His new crafts like the teased potato sack can be placed in other tabs.

[Aquaticbutter7]

A big part of Wolfgang's personality is him being scared of everything, but the impact on gameplay it has is barely noticeable. Why not make his speed boost based on his sanity rather than his hunger? When you see something scary, running is the most obvious thing to do! Besides, he would still be really good in most boss fights.

[ArubaroBeefalo]

50 minutes ago, Aquaticbutter7 said:

A big part of Wolfgang's personality is him being scared of everything, but the impact on gameplay it has is barely noticeable. Why not make his speed boost based on his sanity rather than his hunger? When you see something scary, running is the most obvious thing to do! Besides, he would still be really good in most boss fights.

so clever! and wont affect early since you cna drop your sanity to explore

[reallychina]

2 hours ago, Aquaticbutter7 said:

A big part of Wolfgang's personality is him being scared of everything, but the impact on gameplay it has is barely noticeable. Why not make his speed boost based on his sanity rather than his hunger? When you see something scary, running is the most obvious thing to do! Besides, he would still be really good in most boss fights.

^ klei pls

[Mike23Ua]

5 hours ago, SinancoTheBest said:

Willow AND Woodie. And besides, amongst the new characters, Wortox and Wurt don't have character specific tabs either. I think there is a high chance Wolfgang won't be receiving a new tab, as his rework won't be centered around too many new crafts, unless he's being designed to build a gym. His new crafts like the teased potato sack can be placed in other tabs.

The thing about that is they don’t have enough craftable items to warrant getting their very own exclusive crafting tab.. (it would be silly for Willow to get a crafting tab for just a lighter & Bernie dolls)

Wurt on the other hand probably SHOULD have had her own crafting tab because- she has Clever disguise, Craftsmerm House, DIY Royalty Kit, Craftable Swamp Turf, And the higher tier Guard Merm Huts- 

She has as many craftables as Wormwood.. but her crafts are scattered about in the craftable tabs instead of in her own exclusive one.

Having an exclusive crafting tab isn’t always a bad thing: it allows for easily finding what your wanting to create immediately- instead of going “my friends are being punched in the face because I forgot Merms are hostile to non Wurts.. but I forgot which crafting tab the Clever Disguise is in”

Which leads to: my friends joining my world as a non-Wurt and immediately getting murdered by all the merms I set up at the Postern because I completely forgot they will Murder anyone not named Wurt.

I personally prefer them to be in their own crafting tabs for quick and easy locating rather than scouring each of the games other tabs to relocate what your searching for.

Also with the sole exceptions of Wilson & Wortox Every character in the entire game has gotten a crafting tab, even if they don’t have their own “Tab” having any exclusive items at all they can craft is still the same thing.

[JeezSorry]

I want him to give piggy back rides.

 

walter with slingshot while wolfgang running around, would be good actually, walter wouldn't have to focus on fighting.

[Cookie95]

10 hours ago, Aquaticbutter7 said:

A big part of Wolfgang's personality is him being scared of everything, but the impact on gameplay it has is barely noticeable. Why not make his speed boost based on his sanity rather than his hunger? When you see something scary, running is the most obvious thing to do! Besides, he would still be really good in most boss fights.

Great idea assuming he will just have default speed when high on sanity (and not suffer from speed penalty)

[Spirit Glow]

8 hours ago, JeezSorry said:

I want him to give piggy back rides.

 

walter with slingshot while wolfgang running around, would be good actually, walter wouldn't have to focus on fighting.

I would give anything to see this happen XD