klei developers, please block such behavior

[Wardin25]

27 minutes ago, Duck986 said:

i made a spoiler in that message which says that i'm joking.

yeah i didnt see that, my bad 

[ArubaroBeefalo]

2 hours ago, KeshS said:

This pretty sure falls under "public shaming" and it is forbidden to disclose detailed info. I am in no way protecting him, but it is better to message a Klei team that would perform a necessary action, if needed.

Then he shouldnt do that

Ofc, people shouldnt focus their anger for other things into him

[Cheggf]

You can use the skins while playing on your server, or you can use the skins on any server?

[user1464576869]

13 minutes ago, Cheggf said:

You can use the skins while playing on your server, or you can use the skins on any server?

I think.. only servers with the mod installed gives players access to all skins, so in theory every server ever would need it installed?
 
Sounds highly illegal to distribute, making money off of it or not. I wouldn't use words like disgusting personally though.

[Majestix]

59 minutes ago, Cosheeta said:

Sounds highly illegal to distribute, making money off of it or not. I wouldn't use words like disgusting personally though.

Disgust towards all kinds of thieving is a common human reaction, and is often useful in maintaining social order in general.

[DaZoul]

 

[JoeW]

We're aware of the mod. Thank you for the report. 

[user1464576869]

2 hours ago, Majestix said:

Disgust towards all kinds of thieving is a common human reaction, and is often useful in maintaining social order in general.

Not all kinds no.

[thegreatJash]

Jeez, what is the point of even making a mod like that. They know it's essentially illegal to do and anyone in their right mind who sees it will report it immediately. They only thing they will get out of is a nice message from Klei stating that the behavior is wrong. I just don't understand why, it's like joining the wrong Zoom class on purpose and playing innapropriate music with your mic on. It might get a few laughs, but not much else except you looking stupid after you get kicked and contacted by an authority.

[DaZoul]

33 minutes ago, thegreatJash said:

it's like joining the wrong Zoom class on purpose and playing innapropriate music with your mic on. It might get a few laughs, but not much else except you looking stupid after you get kicked and contacted by an authority.

sounds like you're talking from experience there, bud

[Charlie Dark]

13 minutes ago, DaZoul said:

sounds like you're talking from experience there, bud

They must've got mean classmates, I guess...

[JazzyGames]

8 hours ago, KeshS said:

This pretty sure falls under "public shaming" and it is forbidden to disclose detailed info. I am in no way protecting him, but it is better to message a Klei team that would perform a necessary action, if needed.

Is there a rule against this in these forums? If so then I respect that but beyond any formal rules, if somebody is selling or giving away for free paid content that Klei relies on to sustain their game development, I have no qualms with publicly shaming them. It's stealing, plain and simple.

[gaymime]

32 minutes ago, Charlie Dark said:

They must've got mean classmates, I guess...

or maybe their classmates aren't into the extended dub-step remix of popcorn?

[KeshS]

12 minutes ago, JazzyGames said:

Is there a rule against this in these forums?

Yes, there are a couple quoting from community guidelines.

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Personal Information: Klei Entertainment takes great care in maintaining the security, privacy, and confidentiality of each community members personal info, including yours. That’s why you may not communicate personal information about yourself or another player, including but not limited to; home address, phone number or any personally identifying information. Also, In some circumstances providing personal information online whether true or false may constitute a violation of the law in some regions. For the full scope of our commitment to you and your personal information you can revisit our complete Privacy Policy.

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Harassment: Harassment is defined as any repeated action by one player or a group of players intended to routinely disrupt the experience of the game or services for others. Harassment can be defined many ways, and is not necessarily limited to the type of language used, but the intent. Repeatedly targeting a specific player with harassment can lead to more severe action taken.

 

12 minutes ago, JazzyGames said:

If so then I respect that but beyond any formal rules, if somebody is selling or giving away for free paid content that Klei relies on to sustain their game development, I have no qualms with publicly shaming them. It's stealing, plain and simple.

Two wrongs don't make a right  The best situation as a community is to report and provide as much information as possible to the Klei staff so they can deal with it.

[JazzyGames]

Got it. I must have missed the part where personal information was shared.

[MondayNight]

While the forum Rules are fairly clear on what to post and what to refrain from, current case lands in a gray area for multiple reasons. Enough to say is best people at large know about it, because it also borderlines on scam territory. Selling mods using resources that developer also has on sale and isn't giving the license to 3rd parties to do likewise should be made know to player-base so they (the players) don't subject themselves to such illegal/scammy practices by mentioned 3rd parties. Also reporting this/these Steam user(s) to Steam seems fair on same scamming grounds.

[JoeW]

Generally speaking when it comes to name and shame it's more of a case by case basis. In this case, I leave it here because if I don't there will continue to be new posts and I want people to be aware we know of the issue. 

In other cases the reason to not allow name and shame is because generally it's not productive to post one side of the story from an argument people had on a server and really nothing constructive is going to come out of it. 

[Pikapikap]

1 hour ago, JoeW said:

Generally speaking when it comes to name and shame it's more of a case by case basis. In this case, I leave it here because if I don't there will continue to be new posts and I want people to be aware we know of the issue. 

In other cases the reason to not allow name and shame is because generally it's not productive to post one side of the story from an argument people had on a server and really nothing constructive is going to come out of it. 

thank you Sir

15 hours ago, Dr_wang said:

This guy seems to be the one we are criticizing, 07x21. Because that the words he quoted are the same as what he argued with someone in that Chinese forum. Further more, the disgusting one, 07x21, he had once developed a mod allowing players to attack super fast in the Forge tournament easily to achieve high scores. The advanced mod he had developed, which can help players to attack faster in classic worlds had long been publicated on Steam and is also being brutally scolded.

@JoeW 

yes，It's not the first time he has done these things. He treats cheating and destroying other players' experiences as fun. If I remember correctly, this caused Klei to stop holding a second forge tournament.

By the way, he is not the only one who is making and selling this type of mod. Several others are doing the same thing. But I think if Klei fixes this bug, all of their evil attempts will be completely destroyed.  that would make me very happy. Justice wins.

 

12 hours ago, Cheggf said:

You can use the skins while playing on your server, or you can use the skins on any server?

This effect can be obtained in the server loaded with this mod

 

14 hours ago, Duck986 said:

but hey, this mod is good for people with difficult financial situation, especially if it costs much less than all skins together.

 

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that's a joke, lads.

 

[JazzyGames]

2 hours ago, JoeW said:

Generally speaking when it comes to name and shame it's more of a case by case basis. In this case, I leave it here because if I don't there will continue to be new posts and I want people to be aware we know of the issue. 

In other cases the reason to not allow name and shame is because generally it's not productive to post one side of the story from an argument people had on a server and really nothing constructive is going to come out of it. 

That's fair and considerate, and I admit that my desire to shame comes from a rather visceral anger towards someone who would seek to profit from the intellectual property of an indy game company. Like I got a real, real big problem with IP theft, and I don't want any freelancing developer to ever get the impression that they could get away with something like this.

[TemporarySolutn]

20 hours ago, Pikapikap said:

Today I discovered something that shocked and disgusted me,In the Chinese forum of dst, someone publicly sells a mod called "all skins". This mod is a server mod and can get all skins including Chester box skins (please note that this is not the stand-alone mod , Dst can be used)!

This person was madly insulted by Chinese players after posting related posts on the dst Chinese forum, but he was not ashamed, it was really disgusting.

Before he tried to delete the dynamic, I saved some screenshots as evidence.

We all know that these exquisite skins made by klei for us are not only very popular, but also one of their sources of income.

It is the hard work of all klei employees to make the skins to bring us happiness, and they only need to wait for klei to make the new skin released, after a period of cracking, it can be used and sold. I could have used more vicious words to abuse them, but because of the community guidelines I still held back.

But I still have to say, those people （He is not alone in making and selling this mod, there are others who are doing the same thing. They also formed a competitive relationship to see who sold more）selling this mod  is really disgusting. 

Below I uploaded these two pictures for you to translate briefly. I heard about the news on discord, and then I went to the forum to collect evidence.

The rough meaning of the first picture is that he and his partner found a loophole left by the klei staff and let him get the skin_id. The second picture shows that he knows this is illegal but still wants to continue selling This skin mod. After being insulted by other Chinese players, he did not regret it. What a shame！

I hope the developers will notice this so-called vulnerability. I don't know how he did it, but someone has already confirmed the authenticity of his mod. Now the Chinese forum has been insulting him for a while, but it has no effect. I hope Klei can do something please

 

 

That would be cool if Klei wasnt so nice about their skins and events and everything

[thegreatJash]

23 hours ago, DaZoul said:

sounds like you're talking from experience there, bud

hm

[Cheggf]

On 10/20/2020 at 11:28 AM, thegreatJash said:

Jeez, what is the point of even making a mod like that.

They're selling it for money. The point is to make money.

On 10/20/2020 at 11:28 AM, thegreatJash said:

They know it's essentially illegal to do and anyone in their right mind who sees it will report it immediately. They only thing they will get out of is a nice message from Klei stating that the behavior is wrong.

Even if Klei shuts the mod down, makes it no longer work, does whatever, they still profited from it. Everyone who bought it while it worked isn't getting their money back, since someone who knowingly breaks the terms of services of products in order to profit definitely isn't going to be giving refunds. It's the same thing with people selling cheats. In most cases they know it's wrong and they know that it isn't guaranteed to last forever. They just don't care.

[thegreatJash]

19 hours ago, Cheggf said:

They're selling it for money. The point is to make money.

Even if Klei shuts the mod down, makes it no longer work, does whatever, they still profited from it. Everyone who bought it while it worked isn't getting their money back, since someone who knowingly breaks the terms of services of products in order to profit definitely isn't going to be giving refunds. It's the same thing with people selling cheats. In most cases they know it's wrong and they know that it isn't guaranteed to last forever. They just don't care.

I didn't know that it cost money