Abyssolator's milk and flakes

[flapee]

I give you Abyssolator™, for all the tungsten addicts:

 

yet another way for them to get the fix:

• pipe melter by @calibayzone
• tempshift melter by @lusss
• metal printer ( a little bit exploity i might add ) by infamous @mathmanican

Abyssolator™ uses "flaking" mechanic: when block/tile is in contact with gas hotter than it's own melting temp, material flakes* off 5kg of it's mass(in liquid form). No need for space materials, only molten steel and diamond are required, and is ~8-80 times more energy and multiple orders of magnitude more time efficient than insulTation melters.

*conditions apply:

• The targeted block does not need to be near melting temp, hence we can use it to milk the abyssalite.
• current mass of the targeted block must be higher than 5kg
• multiple flakes might be created in one instance, given enough mass, working thermal energy ...
• physics works from top to down, left to right
• thermal mass of the working gas has to be slightly above 20 DTU/*C ( 63 for rockgas ) per cell
• thermal energy of the working gas needs to be high enough to melt the flake AND remain in gas form afterwards : some gases need to be heated to higher temperatures than others
• the flake removes certain amount of energy from the working gas ( 5kg steam ~2.5MJ, 31kg sulfur ~ 2.2MJ, 63.25kg rock gas 1.144MJ ), usually it's around the amount needed to heat the flake from target block's temperature to melting point ~2.2MJ

observations:

• only the top gas cell is used for any meaningful work
• the gas chamber will never break, IF only abyssalite or diamond is on the perimeter; insulation tiles made from insulation MIGHT survive, needs extensive tests
• one can use 5kg of steam, 31kg of sulfur, 200kg of iron, 63kg of rockgas, 8kg of hydrogen, 24 kg of nat gas, 2.6kg of super coolant, etc per cell 
• both cells have to use the same gas
• tungsten is near melting temp
• tiles made out of insulation can be flaked albeit inefficiently
• it takes heat from 100kg of steAl production to make 212kg of tungsten (CB 180kg)
• abyssalite tile is usually 500kg, hence one working chamber will yield 990kg of flakes

crunching the numbers

• it takes 2.2MJ (CB 2.6MJ) to make 5kg (440MJ to 1T ),
• 100kg of steel produces 117MJ of heat of which 80% goes into coolant: 500kg of steel ~ 1000kg of tungsten, CB 900kg
• initial setup takes ~325MJ for diamond tile and working gas to heat up
• it takes 20 040 MJ to melt 1T of insulation, 4008 MJ if using pipes, if all the tungstens heat is captured back, that's 8.3% saved , hence 3674MJ / tonne for a pipe melter

reality check

• so, if using molten steel as coolant, only heat from iron smelting can be used; with 5kg steam, 1 smelt yields ~86kg tungsten
  Spoiler

  steel melter

  

   

• the liquid using to trick the pump needs to be highly viscous ( e.g. naphtha ) in excess of 500g or more (drips have to be at least 10g  )
• to use steel smelting, the coolant needs to be carbon ( diamond melted using tungsten ), working chamber needs additional buffer consisting of 1.2t of steel and 2nd diamond tile and 100kg tungsten next to working liquid; with 5kg steam, 1 smelt yields ~180kg tungsten, 160kg if operating continuously
• insulation insulated tiles might be used as parts of the working chamber, but avoid working gas hitting insulation melting temps
• if the location is chosen smartly, 3-5t can be obtained before needing to rebuild this monstrosity
• it was established, that under the right conditions(rock gas), this might be BUG worthy; looking forward for further improvements from BUG squad, yes i'm looking at ya @mathmanican and @Saturnus to turn up the efficiency up to 1000%

 

[Loscil2]

Cool.

[chasinji]

8 hours ago, flapee said:

heat from 2.4t of steAl production to make 5kg

the price is like bitcoin! ridiculous!

[badgamer123]

i know flake.but the stuff is too complex for me

[Aelfled]

15 hours ago, Loscil2 said:

Cool.

Hot!

[Junksteel]

It seems useful but can't understand. 

[mathmanican]

5 minutes ago, Junksteel said:

It seems useful but can't understand.

Try this thread.

 

[0xFADE]

Nice. 

Have you tried this on neutronium?  Maybe it has some lower than expected melting point. 

Never mind,  the wiki mentions it has a melting point of over 9000

[Gus Smedstad]

That made me think “what’s the melting point of neutronium, really?” Turns out the answer is complicated. Outside of a dense gravitational field, “free neutronium” is just free neutrons, so it’s a highly radioactive gas that rapidly decays to proton / electron pairs. It’s never a liquid or a solid. Neutronium in a neutron star is more properly degenerate matter, and it’s likely that it’s a superfluid at any temperature.

We don’t know for sure since we’ve yet to observe it first hand, but think of it this way: solids are solid because molecules bind to each other via electromagnetic attraction. Neutrons don’t have that. The only thing keeping them together is gravity, and there’s nothing keeping individual neutrons rigid relative to each other, so what you get can be viewed as either a super dense gas or a liquid.

[Chthonicone]

On 8/7/2019 at 1:53 PM, Gus Smedstad said:

That made me think “what’s the melting point of neutronium, really?” Turns out the answer is complicated. Outside of a dense gravitational field, “free neutronium” is just free neutrons, so it’s a highly radioactive gas that rapidly decays to proton / electron pairs. It’s never a liquid or a solid. Neutronium in a neutron star is more properly degenerate matter, and it’s likely that it’s a superfluid at any temperature.

We don’t know for sure since we’ve yet to observe it first hand, but think of it this way: solids are solid because molecules bind to each other via electromagnetic attraction. Neutrons don’t have that. The only thing keeping them together is gravity, and there’s nothing keeping individual neutrons rigid relative to each other, so what you get can be viewed as either a super dense gas or a liquid.

Don't you mean gravity and the strong force? Neutrons have quarks, therefore there is a color charge to bind them to nearby neutrons, and very little electromagnetic force to push them apart. (Individual quarks have a partial magnetic charge)