thewreckedangle Posted July 25, 2019 Share Posted July 25, 2019 ok so, i don't usually pay much attention to this, but i noticed that there was some strange stuff happening with slime/lung germs. observe: ok so there is the slime, 4+million germs. see how a fraction later it is basically half of the amount of germs... and a few moments later: and just before the end of the same cycle somehow it is all killed off in the space of less than half a cycle. despite being surrounded by MILLIONS of germs and starting with 4+ million germs. is this a bug? a display error? (as at no point did it become "overpopulated") is it something else? (sorry for the terrrible layout of pictures. i am trying to show how little time it took for this to happen.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aelfled Posted July 26, 2019 Share Posted July 26, 2019 The tooltip does.say that it's dying off, maybe plastic is finally being antiseptic? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewreckedangle Posted July 26, 2019 Author Share Posted July 26, 2019 its not on plastic though. its a poi tile (mosiac tile?) i honestly have no idea what this is all about and i'm kinda surprised no-one else has anything to say about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abud Posted July 26, 2019 Share Posted July 26, 2019 8 minutes ago, thewreckedangle said: i'm kinda surprised no-one else has anything to say about it Probably just like me, have absolutely no clue what happening there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angrybovine Posted July 26, 2019 Share Posted July 26, 2019 I would check that bottle of PW to see if it has food poisoning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewreckedangle Posted July 26, 2019 Author Share Posted July 26, 2019 1 hour ago, angrybovine said: I would check that bottle of PW to see if it has food poisoning. does this make a difference? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beowulf2010 Posted July 26, 2019 Share Posted July 26, 2019 Yeah. Food poisoning in the air kills slimelung. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewreckedangle Posted July 26, 2019 Author Share Posted July 26, 2019 but the air is 2+million slimelung? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angrybovine Posted July 26, 2019 Share Posted July 26, 2019 40 minutes ago, thewreckedangle said: but the air is 2+million slimelung? Food Poisoning is the honey badger of germs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhailRaptor Posted July 26, 2019 Share Posted July 26, 2019 2 hours ago, angrybovine said: Food Poisoning is the honey badger of germs. Actually that's Floral Scents. It kills Food Poisoning and Slimelung. And Food Poisoning will kill Slimelung. Some people even specifically use that feature through their Electrolyzers to defend against Slimelung. Not sure where Sporechid falls on the ladder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yunru Posted July 26, 2019 Share Posted July 26, 2019 43 minutes ago, PhailRaptor said: Actually that's Floral Scents. It kills Food Poisoning and Slimelung. And Food Poisoning will kill Slimelung. It pays to have a dupe with allergies. Their job is solely to spread more Floral Scents. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Le0n1des Posted July 26, 2019 Share Posted July 26, 2019 51 minutes ago, Yunru said: It pays to have a dupe with allergies. Their job is solely to spread more Floral Scents. I avoided allergic dupes like the plague till now, but given this is true - a dupe can serve as a walking (really miserable) air freshener. Mind blown!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abud Posted July 26, 2019 Share Posted July 26, 2019 2 hours ago, PhailRaptor said: Not sure where Sporechid falls on the ladder. You mean Sporechild? *looking at @metallichydra* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yunru Posted July 26, 2019 Share Posted July 26, 2019 9 minutes ago, abud said: You mean Sporechild? *looking at @metallichydra* *Sporechyld #EvrthnkBttrWuthVampyrs #MyImmortal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sasza22 Posted July 26, 2019 Share Posted July 26, 2019 3 hours ago, PhailRaptor said: Actually that's Floral Scents. It kills Food Poisoning and Slimelung. And Food Poisoning will kill Slimelung. Some people even specifically use that feature through their Electrolyzers to defend against Slimelung. Not sure where Sporechid falls on the ladder. I made some tests about it. Floral scents won`t spawn if other germs are in the plant tile. Same goes for sporechid. But the germ confilct is pretty weird. A buddy bud next to a sporechid kept it even for several cycles until it suddenly overpowered the zombie spores and took the germ spot around the plant (but didn`t advnce further) after quite a few more cycles the sporechid fought back and beat the floral scents. What seems to be happening here is extra mass spawning along with another germ type (which apparently works differently than germs spawning from plants) and the new germs need room so germs occupying the tile get erased. Still it doesn`t explain how the germs die in the slime itself. That shouldn`t happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darkin Coaled Posted July 27, 2019 Share Posted July 27, 2019 Hold on, you mean a bottle of polluted water with one germ offgassing in a tile with a chunk of debris with another germ on it will somehow sterilize the debris? Can somebody drop a chunk of germy slime into a pool of germy poop water? BTW, all germs kill all other germs as far as I can tell. If a tile of gas with germ A in it touches a tile of gas with germ B in it both the germ populations will disappear. Doesn't even matter if one is 100 times the population of the other. Never had the chance to watch liquid tiles with mixed germs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abud Posted July 27, 2019 Share Posted July 27, 2019 1 hour ago, Darkin Coaled said: Never had the chance to watch liquid tiles with mixed germs One element per tile, one germ per tile. Those are rules from heaven, dupes cannot go against it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Le0n1des Posted July 27, 2019 Share Posted July 27, 2019 1 hour ago, Darkin Coaled said: a bottle of polluted water with one germ offgassing in a tile with a chunk of debris with another germ on it will somehow sterilize the debris? Can somebody drop a chunk of germy slime into a pool of germy poop water? A chunk of germy slime won't do, as there is no transition to liquids. You can drop slime into your water supply and nothing would happen. A bottle of polluted water from the sink at the exit from the swamp though... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metallichydra Posted July 27, 2019 Share Posted July 27, 2019 7 hours ago, abud said: You mean Sporechild? *looking at @metallichydra* im being bullied Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lilalaunekuh Posted July 27, 2019 Share Posted July 27, 2019 11 hours ago, PhailRaptor said: 13 hours ago, angrybovine said: Food Poisoning is the honey badger of germs. Actually that's Floral Scents. It kills Food Poisoning and Slimelung. And Food Poisoning will kill Slimelung. Some people even specifically use that feature through their Electrolyzers to defend against Slimelung. Not sure where Sporechid falls on the ladder. Sorry if I am a bit offtopic, but I just got an idea for my next "build": Most of us will come to a point where most oxygen needs are satisfied using piped oxygen. So my current steps are: Produce the oxygen. Temperate the oxygen. Pipe it into my suits or vent it into my base. => What if I would introduce an other step on the way? Did someone already mess with adding floral scent to the oxygen before distribution ? [I don´t want to deal with plants (inside my base) and vastly different germs counts everywhere.] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abud Posted July 27, 2019 Share Posted July 27, 2019 1 hour ago, metallichydra said: im being bullied Sorry about that 57 minutes ago, Lilalaunekuh said: Did someone already mess with adding floral scent to the oxygen before distribution ? Have you found a way for them to survive long enough to be piped? They are very fast to die without the plant source. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lilalaunekuh Posted July 27, 2019 Share Posted July 27, 2019 2 hours ago, abud said: 3 hours ago, Lilalaunekuh said: Did someone already mess with adding floral scent to the oxygen before distribution ? Have you found a way for them to survive long enough to be piped? They are very fast to die without the plant source. That´s my current problem, but I only need a few germs to survive in the oxygen to trigger the "smelled flowers" effect. I can manage to get oxygen packets (1kg) with >10.000germs. but this is just after pumping the oxygen. [Not sure right now if it is a good idea to place the buddy buds inside a big room with my electrolyzers to minimize pump usage, or if I should produce my oxygen and vent it into a room with buddy buds and pump it again into a pipe. If I add the germs to early they will die off earlier and there are some cases where lower sized packets might kill additional germs (rounding ...).] Spoiler Right now this seems like a trade-off between power efficiency and floral scent germ count, but I don´t claim to have tested all possible quirks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metallichydra Posted July 27, 2019 Share Posted July 27, 2019 2 hours ago, abud said: Sorry about that i didnt mean that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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