S19TealPenguin Posted February 22, 2019 Share Posted February 22, 2019 Here are the images side by side Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viktor234 Posted February 22, 2019 Share Posted February 22, 2019 8 minutes ago, S19TealPenguin said: Here are the images side by side Probably the same reason why the 2nd Pig City can have a Pig King shaped 'Intricate Topiary': It might be lore-relevant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Machine Reaper Posted February 22, 2019 Share Posted February 22, 2019 I think he meant by the fact why is it....censored? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theukon-dos Posted February 22, 2019 Share Posted February 22, 2019 Because the pig king is Queen Malfalfa's Ex. The Update log that added werewilba mentions how wilba "inherited her father's curse that infects all of his family with dreaded werepigism", and the character select screen mentions how she "carries her father's legacy". The RoG pigs will also recognize her as there king's daughter. Why the pig king left? I don't know. How he's able to start a family? I also don't know. could that use explaining? yes, definitely Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Machine Reaper Posted February 22, 2019 Share Posted February 22, 2019 2 minutes ago, Theukon-dos said: Because the pig king is Queen Malfalfa's Ex. The Update log that added werewilba mentions how wilba "inherited her father's cure that infects all of his family with dreaded werepigism", and the character select screen mentions how she "caries her father's legacy". The RoG pigs will also recognize her as there king's daughter. Why the pig king left? I don't know. How he's able to start a family? I also don't know. could that use explaining? yes, definitly the Pigking does not mutate into an Werepig so he kinda doesn't fit the description of being Father of Wilba, Great Grandfather perhaps but not Father. After all the Pigs in RoG are from an earlier time while pigs in Hamlet are in the future. Its also the reason why you can't find Pig Tombs or Artifacts in RoG. or maybe the Pigs in RoG are just...basic Tribesmen Pig. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theukon-dos Posted February 22, 2019 Share Posted February 22, 2019 3 minutes ago, MWY said: the Pigking does not mutate into an Werepig so he kinda doesn't fit the description of being Father of Wilba, Great Grandfather perhaps but not Father. After all the Pigs in RoG are from an earlier time while pigs in Hamlet are in the future. Its also the reason why you can't find Pig Tombs or Artifacts in RoG. well the curse is described as affecting [the pig king's] family, not him and his family. And again, the update log specifically says "all of pigkind from Hamlet's town pigs to those of ROG will now recognize her as the king's daughter" is that ever stated? because I'm not sure if Wilson can time travel or the vanilla pigs left for the base game island after the pig ruins where built Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
minespatch Posted February 22, 2019 Share Posted February 22, 2019 2 minutes ago, Theukon-dos said: is that ever stated? because I'm not sure if Wilson can time travel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Machine Reaper Posted February 22, 2019 Share Posted February 22, 2019 When you cross dimensions or Worlds, time will be different from where you went from to where you went to. figuratively speaking this is the Constant, anything can happen in it and we only get a glimpse of Time passing thru the days and seasons we pass. 7 minutes ago, Theukon-dos said: well the curse is described as affecting [the pig king's] family, not him and his family. And again, the update log specifically says "all of pigkind from Hamlet's town pigs to those of ROG will now recognize her as the king's daughter" That is indeed stated, we will have to wait and see tho, the Current Pigs in RoG do speak proper English improperly but English non the less. I feel like maybe they have been forced to become uncivilized perhaps? Like forced out due to their curse of becoming a Werepig and ending up in the RoG world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theukon-dos Posted February 22, 2019 Share Posted February 22, 2019 4 minutes ago, MWY said: When you cross dimensions or Worlds, time will be different from where you went from to where you went to. figuratively speaking this is the Constant, anything can happen in it and we only get a glimpse of Time passing thru the days and seasons we pass. That is indeed stated, we will have to wait and see tho, the Current Pigs in RoG do speak proper English improperly but English non the less. I feel like maybe they have been forced to become uncivilized perhaps? 1 true, though it should be noted that worlds stay in sync when linked. The day count stays the same between, and if you were to leave ROG during summer, you can wait for autumn in SW or HAM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Machine Reaper Posted February 22, 2019 Share Posted February 22, 2019 Just now, Theukon-dos said: true, though it should be noted that worlds stay in sync when linked. The day count stays the same between, and if you were to leave ROG during summer, you can wait for autumn in SW or HAM Yes, that is why I said they must be just basic Uncivilized Pigs in General. forced/exiled to live out in the Wilderness due to their curse possibly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Osbalop Posted February 22, 2019 Share Posted February 22, 2019 28 minutes ago, MWY said: the Pigking does not mutate into an Werepig so he kinda doesn't fit the description of being Father of Wilba, Great Grandfather perhaps but not Father. After all the Pigs in RoG are from an earlier time while pigs in Hamlet are in the future. Its also the reason why you can't find Pig Tombs or Artifacts in RoG. or maybe the Pigs in RoG are just...basic Tribesmen Pig. Maybe the Pigking doesn´t transform because he has something similar to the silver necklace, he gave one to Wilba after all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theukon-dos Posted February 22, 2019 Share Posted February 22, 2019 1 minute ago, MWY said: Yes, that is why I said they must be just basic Uncivilized Pigs in General. well then we run into the predicament of "if they're not the same pigs, then how did the pig queen have a child with queen Malfalfa", or "if the pig tribe came from Hamlet, why are they so much dumber"?. Though for that last one, it could have something to do with the fact that Hamlet takes place ontop of several mountains, if the clouds are anything to go by, so perhaps it has something to do with generations of lower air pressure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Machine Reaper Posted February 22, 2019 Share Posted February 22, 2019 6 minutes ago, Osbalop said: Maybe the Pigking doesn´t transform because he has something similar to the silver necklace, he gave one to Wilba after all. Yes, that hints as well, the Pig King has this ear rings/ jewellery on his horns, maybe they are preventing the Curse? (and giving him Invulnerability including) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rellimarual Posted February 22, 2019 Share Posted February 22, 2019 It’s hard to imagine anyone as fancy as Malfafa marrying a dude in a grass skirt who lies around outside day and night. Maybe they’re related some other way? He could be her ne’er do well brother who got sent off to the wilderness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Machine Reaper Posted February 22, 2019 Share Posted February 22, 2019 5 minutes ago, Rellimarual said: It’s hard to imagine anyone as fancy as Malfafa marrying a dude in a grass skirt who lies around outside day and night. Maybe they’re related some other way? He could be her ne’er do well brother who got sent off to the wilderness. the Wilderness can change you mate. They all still smell they same tho. and the Manure principles haven't changed either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sinisterrkid Posted February 22, 2019 Share Posted February 22, 2019 What's this about Hamlet being set in a future time from RoG? Never heard about it. I do believe they are contemporaneous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheOnlyGuyEver Posted February 23, 2019 Share Posted February 23, 2019 Like Rellimarual said, it's hard to imagine the Queen marrying such a, well, pig. My theory is that something happened after they had their child and he fled or was exiled to the RoG lands, where the uncivilized tribal pigs made him their king. Perhaps the Queen didn't know about his curse until after they had Wilba, and when it became revealed through Wilba, he was banished. That's when he became the big fat bastard we all know today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S19TealPenguin Posted February 23, 2019 Author Share Posted February 23, 2019 Seeing as this is turning into a Pig King lore thread: The PK's vignette in DST says "Legend has it the Pig King and his followers left their home to rule freely in the constant". Perhaps the "uncivilized" pigs left Hamlet because they did not want to be governed by Malfalfa/Truffleston/The player? The Gorge's swamp pigs seem to be an entirely different matter, as their lycanthropy is less controlled. It is interesting to note that the Swamp pigs have no king, only an "elder". Perhaps it is relevant that across all pig sects, there are only two monarchs, a King and a Queen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rellimarual Posted February 23, 2019 Share Posted February 23, 2019 18 minutes ago, S19TealPenguin said: Perhaps the "uncivilized" pigs left Hamlet because they did not want to be governed by Malfalfa/Truffleston/The player? Or “rule freely” could mean that Hamlet has some kind of representative government and the Pig King want to go back to an autocratic government free of democratic constraints. There’s a lot of that going around! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S19TealPenguin Posted February 23, 2019 Author Share Posted February 23, 2019 22 minutes ago, Rellimarual said: Or “rule freely” could mean that Hamlet has some kind of representative government and the Pig King want to go back to an autocratic government free of democratic constraints. There’s a lot of that going around! Well that depends on the sentence structure. Is it "the Pig King left his home to rule freely, his followers came too" or "both the Pig King and his followers came to the Constant so that they could rule freely"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
minespatch Posted February 23, 2019 Share Posted February 23, 2019 I think the pigking's crown is his werepig amulet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Szczuku Posted February 23, 2019 Share Posted February 23, 2019 Wilba doesn't say that PK is her father. So I guess he isn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Machine Reaper Posted February 23, 2019 Share Posted February 23, 2019 3 hours ago, Szczuku said: Wilba doesn't say that PK is her father. So I guess he isn't. Wilba won't remember her father that easily since she was probably a Baby when he left. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Szczuku Posted February 23, 2019 Share Posted February 23, 2019 57 minutes ago, MWY said: Wilba won't remember her father that easily since she was probably a Baby when he left. I mean… she knows him enough to call him "TIS TRADER KING". I'd be much easier if she had more quotes about her father Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Machine Reaper Posted February 23, 2019 Share Posted February 23, 2019 1 hour ago, Szczuku said: I mean… she knows him enough to call him "TIS TRADER KING". I'd be much easier if she had more quotes about her father maybe he Was a Trader, had a run in with the queen, had a child, left to trade again, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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