jfc Posted January 6, 2019 Share Posted January 6, 2019 I saw a picture before of someone having like 8 comfy beds with a lot of decor in it but can't remember where is it. Does someone know a design with 8 beds for max dupes? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/101510-room-design-for-max-dupes-and-decor/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neotuck Posted January 6, 2019 Share Posted January 6, 2019 8 compfy beds alone takes up a full 64 tiles Only way to get decor in that is have all walls made with window tiles and have paintings/statues on the other side Decor use to transmit though airflow tiles but that was removed in QoL, you might be remembering a picture from before then. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/101510-room-design-for-max-dupes-and-decor/#findComment-1140257 Share on other sites More sharing options...
chemie Posted January 6, 2019 Share Posted January 6, 2019 only 4 beds but max decor you can achieve (hanging plants and metal tile floors) 2 hours ago, Neotuck said: 8 compfy beds alone takes up a full 64 tiles Only way to get decor in that is have all walls made with window tiles and have paintings/statues on the other side Decor use to transmit though airflow tiles but that was removed in QoL, you might be remembering a picture from before then. It does transmit through pneumatic doors so if OP wants to use a semi-exploit, he can put pneumatic doors above and below the 2 high room with 8 comfy beds, and then have 2 high rooms above and below with metal tiles and hanging plants. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/101510-room-design-for-max-dupes-and-decor/#findComment-1140285 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glassyfo Posted January 6, 2019 Share Posted January 6, 2019 1 hour ago, Neotuck said: 8 compfy beds alone takes up a full 64 tiles Only way to get decor in that is have all walls made with window tiles and have paintings/statues on the other side Decor use to transmit though airflow tiles but that was removed in QoL, you might be remembering a picture from before then. When I hover over rooms in the decor tab it says max decor +120? Is that the actual limit now? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/101510-room-design-for-max-dupes-and-decor/#findComment-1140287 Share on other sites More sharing options...
chemie Posted January 6, 2019 Share Posted January 6, 2019 3 minutes ago, bleeter6 said: When I hover over rooms in the decor tab it says max decor +120? Is that the actual limit now? No. The tooltip is wrong; dups still gain the total; just watch the dup and hover over decor Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/101510-room-design-for-max-dupes-and-decor/#findComment-1140288 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gurgel Posted January 7, 2019 Share Posted January 7, 2019 9 hours ago, chemie said: No. The tooltip is wrong; dups still gain the total; just watch the dup and hover over decor I observed the same. As far as I can see, the old cap of 1000 for area decor is still in effect. As I am currently doing a map with no decor at all (just to see whether that works, and yes, it does), I cannot verify it. Incidentally, here is the "extreme decor" variant for cots that I used before the permeable tiles started blocking it: Would have to be updated to use mostly glass tiles and be even more impressive with all gold metal statues. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/101510-room-design-for-max-dupes-and-decor/#findComment-1140464 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arcus2611 Posted January 7, 2019 Share Posted January 7, 2019 The rules for bedrooms are: -Maximum of 64 tiles -Comfy bed -No cots -Ceiling height of 4 tiles -Decor item The 64 tile size limit means that it is impossible to fit 8 beds into a single bedroom, because one bed is 4x2. Usual 64 tile designs have 3 or 4 beds. (3 is necessary to deal with loud sleepers). Depending on how the ceiling height is determined however, it might be possible to squeeze 6 beds into a single bedroom using a two storey/bunk bed layout, but that would really be the limit. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/101510-room-design-for-max-dupes-and-decor/#findComment-1140484 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miravlix Posted January 7, 2019 Share Posted January 7, 2019 You guys do know that decor has a cap at 120? Those rooms has 340 decor pr. tile, bit of a waste. 8 small paintings and 4 comfy beds and I think every tile gets 120+ decor, it's not rocket science or complicated. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/101510-room-design-for-max-dupes-and-decor/#findComment-1140515 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christophlette Posted January 7, 2019 Share Posted January 7, 2019 4 hours ago, Arcus2611 said: The 64 tile size limit means that it is impossible to fit 8 beds into a single bedroom, because one bed is 4x2. Usual 64 tile designs have 3 or 4 beds. (3 is necessary to deal with loud sleepers). That is purely wrong. If one bed is 4x2 then it's 8 tiles. 64/8 is 8. So it's possible. You just can't put anything more in the room. 39 minutes ago, Miravlix said: You guys do know that decor has a cap at 120? I've read recently on the forum that it's only a tooltip. The rule is not implemented yet it seems so you can still over decorate your base even if it says it's not working. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/101510-room-design-for-max-dupes-and-decor/#findComment-1140520 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToiDiaeRaRIsuOy Posted January 7, 2019 Share Posted January 7, 2019 56 minutes ago, Miravlix said: You guys do know that decor has a cap at 120? Those rooms has 340 decor pr. tile, bit of a waste. 8 small paintings and 4 comfy beds and I think every tile gets 120+ decor, it's not rocket science or complicated. Again, the tooltip is wrong on this. The morale advantage you can get out of it is capped, but the decor value is not in the background calculations despite the tooltip saying it is. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/101510-room-design-for-max-dupes-and-decor/#findComment-1140524 Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbudiman Posted January 7, 2019 Share Posted January 7, 2019 21 minutes ago, Christophlette said: That is purely wrong. If one bed is 4x2 then it's 8 tiles. 64/8 is 8. So it's possible. You just can't put anything more in the room. I would be interested to see how you fit 8 beds in a 64-tiles room. The best I can think of is 7 beds until Klei introduce hanging-bed. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/101510-room-design-for-max-dupes-and-decor/#findComment-1140525 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToiDiaeRaRIsuOy Posted January 7, 2019 Share Posted January 7, 2019 5 minutes ago, gbudiman said: I would be interested to see how you fit 8 beds in a 64-tiles room. The best I can think of is 7 beds until Klei introduce hanging-bed. My god, that would be awesome. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/101510-room-design-for-max-dupes-and-decor/#findComment-1140527 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Le0n1des Posted January 7, 2019 Share Posted January 7, 2019 8 minutes ago, gbudiman said: I would be interested to see how you fit 8 beds in a 64-tiles room. The best I can think of is 7 beds until Klei introduce hanging-bed. By making a 32 x 2 room... Would be quite ugly though Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/101510-room-design-for-max-dupes-and-decor/#findComment-1140529 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christophlette Posted January 7, 2019 Share Posted January 7, 2019 14 minutes ago, gbudiman said: I would be interested to see how you fit 8 beds in a 64-tiles room. The best I can think of is 7 beds until Klei introduce hanging-bed. Like @Le0n1des said. By making the room 32 x 2. Doors do not count in the 64 tiles space. So 64 tiles fits in 64 tiles... Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/101510-room-design-for-max-dupes-and-decor/#findComment-1140530 Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbudiman Posted January 7, 2019 Share Posted January 7, 2019 13 minutes ago, Christophlette said: Like @Le0n1des said. By making the room 32 x 2. Doors do not count in the 64 tiles space. So 64 tiles fits in 64 tiles... Lol duh it's that time of the night 32 minutes ago, Le0n1des said: By making a 32 x 2 room... Would be quite ugly though But wait... If decor goes through window tiles, that means you will get massive decor bonus from paintings/statues from both upper and lower "aisle" Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/101510-room-design-for-max-dupes-and-decor/#findComment-1140532 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nitroturtle Posted January 7, 2019 Share Posted January 7, 2019 You guys talking about fitting 8 beds in a bedroom need to take another look at the additional room requirements. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/101510-room-design-for-max-dupes-and-decor/#findComment-1140539 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToiDiaeRaRIsuOy Posted January 7, 2019 Share Posted January 7, 2019 16 minutes ago, Nitroturtle said: You guys talking about fitting 8 beds in a bedroom need to take another look at the additional room requirements. I believe the current requirements aren't actually required to get the associated bonusses, though in my experience relying on missing features will lead to a lot of problems when they eventually are actually required. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/101510-room-design-for-max-dupes-and-decor/#findComment-1140541 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gurgel Posted January 7, 2019 Share Posted January 7, 2019 Bedrooms have to be 4 tiles high, at least according to the states criteria in the game. That mans maximum horizontal length is 16 tiles, i.e. 4 comfy beds. For Barracks (only +1 morale, not +2 like a Bedroom), you can fit in 8 comfy beds as they can be just 2 tiles high. The Barracks also do not need that decor item that is mandatory in a Bedroom. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/101510-room-design-for-max-dupes-and-decor/#findComment-1140579 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arcus2611 Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 16 hours ago, Christophlette said: Like @Le0n1des said. By making the room 32 x 2. Doors do not count in the 64 tiles space. So 64 tiles fits in 64 tiles... Honestly I was only considering the bedroom requirements and so forgot you could do that. But yeah, bedrooms have to be 4 tiles high, so you could do a 2x32, but it would only count as a barracks. At that point I would just use cots instead. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/101510-room-design-for-max-dupes-and-decor/#findComment-1140743 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mariilyn Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 I posted this example a while ago, but it was 4 (37 tiles) bedrooms with 4 comfy beds each. Very compact design. The ceiling doesn't need to be 4 tiles high everywhere in the bedroom. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/101510-room-design-for-max-dupes-and-decor/#findComment-1140746 Share on other sites More sharing options...
beowulf2010 Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 8 minutes ago, Mariilyn said: I posted this example a while ago, but it was 4 (37 tiles) bedrooms with 4 comfy beds each. Very compact design. The ceiling doesn't need to be 4 tiles high everywhere in the bedroom. This is what needs to be done to get more than 4 comfy beds in a bedroom. Note that these rooms are 5 tiles tall which is exactly what you need to do to get 6 (maybe 7?) comfy beds in a bedroom. The picture is a bit misleading however since there is a second set of doors set to be open down the center that are near impossible to see, which divides this into 4 bedrooms, not the 2 seen at first glance. Thanks for sharing this compact design Mariilyn. Not much decor but I like it. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/101510-room-design-for-max-dupes-and-decor/#findComment-1140749 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gurgel Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 1 hour ago, Mariilyn said: I posted this example a while ago, but it was 4 (37 tiles) bedrooms with 4 comfy beds each. Very compact design. The ceiling doesn't need to be 4 tiles high everywhere in the bedroom. Since it does not really matter whether it is 2 bedrooms or 4, this is a very nice compact design. Also good to know the 4 tiles in one place are enough. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/101510-room-design-for-max-dupes-and-decor/#findComment-1140761 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christophlette Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 6 hours ago, Arcus2611 said: Honestly I was only considering the bedroom requirements and so forgot you could do that. But yeah, bedrooms have to be 4 tiles high, so you could do a 2x32, but it would only count as a barracks. At that point I would just use cots instead. @Le0n1des : My bad on that. Arcus2611 put his finger on a thing. I forgot the room had to be 4 tiles high. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/101510-room-design-for-max-dupes-and-decor/#findComment-1140800 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Le0n1des Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 @Christophlette same thing here... My bad Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/101510-room-design-for-max-dupes-and-decor/#findComment-1140852 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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