dallion Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 this once super useful material is absolute garbage now, you can do nothing with it, so how did you deal with them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruhrohraggy Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 9 minutes ago, dallion said: this once super useful material is absolute garbage now, you can do nothing with it, so how did you deal with them? I'm assuming you mean abyssalite? It's still quite useful. You use it to make insulation at the molecular forge with the addition of some easy to get space materials, and it does the same thing abyssalite tiles do. I agree with klei, that being able to make a perfect insulator straight from abyssalite was just too strong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neotuck Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 Title misleads me into thinking you are offering a solution rather than asking a question Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SakuraKoi Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 It actually ain't that much, each tile is only 250kg mined, previously the amount was literary abysmal. Curiously enough, I was certain that Abyssalite blocks were more than just 500kg but my oldest saves (somehow only from June) begs to differ. In any event, other material may be more useful but is more obnoxious in volume. Storing stray Abyssalite is little in comparison. Though mayhaps it would not be bad if they reduce the density to 1/10 if not 1/100 (yes, only 2.5kg mined, 128 blocks become 1 insulated whatever) for otherwise Abyssalite from space is pure garbage and utterly disappointing when found on prospective destinations (which have increased rare material %). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dallion Posted December 3, 2018 Author Share Posted December 3, 2018 2 hours ago, ruhrohraggy said: It's still quite useful. You use it to make insulation at the molecular forge with the addition of some easy to get space materials, and it does the same thing abyssalite tiles do. my poor forge can`t handle thousands of tons of abys, and as the recipe, it also excessive from apace, even If it can crack into the sand will be better 2 hours ago, Neotuck said: Title misleads me into thinking you are offering a solution rather than asking a question maybe it should be followed with a question mark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chemie Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 why do anything? just leave it on the floor (outside of base). reed fiber cost makes insulator not worth it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peachkillu Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 I just leave as much of the abyssalite as I can and build around it it is still a free insulator no need to dig it out at all just make a door in it and bam a huge perfectly insulated room Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coolthulhu Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 Fun fact: rocket exhaust heating is capped just ~400C below melting point of abyssalite. This means there is no non-debug way of melting it into tungsten, which would make it actually useful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saturnus Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 20 minutes ago, Coolthulhu said: Fun fact: rocket exhaust heating is capped just ~400C below melting point of abyssalite. This means there is no non-debug way of melting it into tungsten, which would make it actually useful. Especially now that ice biomes have become smaller on average. The amount of wolframite on a map is very limited indeed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SakuraKoi Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 59 minutes ago, Saturnus said: Especially now that ice biomes have become smaller on average. The amount of wolframite on a map is very limited indeed. Wait... this is small? Or limited? Surely, slime is utterly dominant but I rather fear(ed) for iron ore~ (but I am happy for the gold, albeit having had two gold volcanoes) Seed is 1047224406, my Space Industry seed which turned out to be terrible in terms of space destinations, it is the vanilla version and while I had fun melting the right ice biome and that everything seems about right, I am fairly certain that one stretched was a bit bigger below the starting base. SI to QoL should have no changes besides new plants. Don't mind the missing borders, they are on vacation, forever. 1 hour ago, Coolthulhu said: Fun fact: rocket exhaust heating is capped just ~400C below melting point of abyssalite. This means there is no non-debug way of melting it into tungsten, which would make it actually useful. If we could just make Kilns out of Insulation then the chaos would be perfect~ "Oh, we wanted Ceramic? But Rock Gas is also fine, right?" On a side note, I am actually utterly disappointed that they nerf'd meteors in a certain regard (while keeping the Armageddon), as in not making them produce iron gas trails at ~3400°C (or Rock Gas a little lot lower) before even implementing it into the live version. It is merely ~50°C CO2 now, I can't bake Fruit Cake with that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chemie Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 2 hours ago, Saturnus said: Especially now that ice biomes have become smaller on average. The amount of wolframite on a map is very limited indeed. hoping they add it to ice planet so we could get small amounts that wat. is it confirmed ice biomes are smaller? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neotuck Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 28 minutes ago, chemie said: hoping they add it to ice planet so we could get small amounts that wat. is it confirmed ice biomes are smaller? Must just be bad luck, I have been using a seed with over a third of the map is ice biome Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chemie Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 56 minutes ago, Neotuck said: Must just be bad luck, I have been using a seed with over a third of the map is ice biome there you go. my current is mostly caustic and has tiny ice biomes often with no weeze Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saturnus Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 2 hours ago, SakuraKoi said: Wait... this is small? Or limited? Yes. It is. There's about 18-21t of wolframite on that map total. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dallion Posted December 4, 2018 Author Share Posted December 4, 2018 10 hours ago, chemie said: why do anything? just leave it on the floor (outside of base). reed fiber cost makes insulator not worth it Too many Garbage on the floor or inbox will cause lag if you delete thousand tons of them with debug mode, your fps with increase about 10+ 9 hours ago, Coolthulhu said: Fun fact: rocket exhaust heating is capped just ~400C below melting point of abyssalite. This means there is no non-debug way of melting it into tungsten, which would make it actually useful. maybe there should be a recipe abys to tungsten at a low conversion rate and very high-level technology, or just can be crack into sand Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lilalaunekuh Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 Just build an array of storage compactors ... (In my current base I got 60 storage compactors set to abyssalite, just to store it somewhere. If you got a vacuume inside your storage room the abyssalite shouldn´t really effect your game anymore.) But considering the amount of abyssalite I used before we couldn´t build with it, having just 1,25 times the amount (after converting everything into insulator) seems still like it could be used. => I like the current state of abyssalite (So if you adapt to the "new meta" and try to mine a little abyssalite as possible you shouldn´t have many problems with the debris. I don´t see a problem with a limited material beeing accessible early but just usable in the late game.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KittenIsAGeek Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 11 hours ago, Saturnus said: Especially now that ice biomes have become smaller on average. The amount of wolframite on a map is very limited indeed. My ice biome covers half my map. So.. IDK what you mean by "smaller." OK, mebbe not HALF, but... Spoiler Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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