Space Telescope Cooling

[DaveSatx]

I begin to hate this thing.  

thermally it isn't interacting with the tiles

• below
• behind
• above
• to the left
• to the right.

how the hell do we cool it down? 

[Neotuck]

remember when you asked about how I keep my robo miners cool?

do the same thing with the telescope and let it get entombed 

[Nitroturtle]

Or treat it like solar panels and don't allow debris to even land on it.  It produces no heat itself and will stay at the same temperature it's built.

[Sasza22]

23 minutes ago, Nitroturtle said:

Or treat it like solar panels and don't allow debris to even land on it.

The problem is that glass tiles actuallt block the telescope (unlike solar panels) so you need clear sky above. That`s hardaer to maintain.

I`m aware that you can use mesh tiles but i`m pretty sure that`s going to get fixed.

[Nitroturtle]

1 minute ago, Sasza22 said:

The problem is that glass tiles actuallt block the telescope (unlike solar panels) so you need clear sky above. That`s hardaer to maintain.

I`m aware that you can use mesh tiles but i`m pretty sure that`s going to get fixed.

You could always use automated doors underneath to allow the debris to pass through when the bunker doors open.

[Nativel]

13 hours ago, DaveSatx said:

how the hell do we cool it down? 

Cr8 from steel

[Neotuck]

1 hour ago, Nitroturtle said:

It produces no heat itself and will stay at the same temperature it's built.

you sure?

[Gurgel]

Just drip some water on it. Same as the robo-miners.

Cooling in space is annoying, but water and some drywall tiles solves it.

[Neotuck]

1 minute ago, Gurgel said:

Just drip some water on it. Same as the robo-miners.

Cooling in space is annoying, but water and some drywall tiles solves it.

I honestly don't like using water cooling, especially if built on glass tiles over solar panels.  Water (and other liquids) dim the light passing though

[AndreyKl]

2 hours ago, Sasza22 said:

The problem is that glass tiles actuallt block the telescope (unlike solar panels) so you need clear sky above. That`s hardaer to maintain.

I`m aware that you can use mesh tiles but i`m pretty sure that`s going to get fixed.

Lower doors open simultaneously with top doors and close dozen seconds later.

This works perfectly as long as you have power.

P.S. Old screenshot of a test run, I upgraded the thing later by moving lasers, adding solar below scanner and switching bunker doors with normal doors, but otherwise I had only 2 overheating accidents over 400 cycles, both seem to be due to missing power. And later switched to termium (more compact that way)

If you don't need scanner, it is possible to place miners above doors if a bit tricky (for example part of regolith will have to fall down, part directly above telescope will be mined).

[Nitroturtle]

1 hour ago, Neotuck said:

you sure?

Wow, I stand corrected.  I built mine from gold amalgam and researched every planet on my starmap and it's sitting at 28° C.  So I'm still not sure you need to cool it, at least, I didn't.

[Neotuck]

Just now, Nitroturtle said:

Wow, I stand corrected.  I built mine from gold amalgam and researched every planet on my starmap and it's sitting at 28° C.  So I'm still not sure you need to cool it, at least, I didn't.

possible the tooltip is wrong, wouldn't be the first time

[Gurgel]

2 hours ago, Neotuck said:

I honestly don't like using water cooling, especially if built on glass tiles over solar panels.  Water (and other liquids) dim the light passing though

I use pwater, cooled down to -10C and carefully dosed. The effect on light is minimal.

[Neotuck]

Just now, Gurgel said:

I use pwater, cooled down to -10C and carefully dosed. The effect on light is minimal.

I suppose that works

I still prefer my method 

[Jumpp]

I struggled with this a lot too. The thing was constantly heating up and I had to deconstruct it and replace it every few cycles.

Then I built it out of steel. It's never troubled me since.

[crypticorb]

1 hour ago, Neotuck said:

possible the tooltip is wrong, wouldn't be the first time

125 DTU/s is negligible. If you build the telescope from steel, it will take an incredible amount of time to heat up to overheating point.

I don't know the math for how many DTUs it would take to bring 400kg of steel up to 275C, but I'd bet my Meep it's an incredibly long time.

[neoazureus]

2 hours ago, Neotuck said:

possible the tooltip is wrong, wouldn't be the first time

The tooltip isn't wrong. The telescope does not heat itself, it expels heat around it (no heat in vacuum, and 125DTU/s in any gas). So, you don't need to cool the telescope,that's why this is true: 

Quote

I built mine from gold amalgam and researched every planet on my starmap and it's sitting at 28° C - by @Nitroturtle

And same for me, I built a telescope with hot gold amalgam, so I get a 45°C Telescope, and I researched all planets and it stay at 45°C

Code:

buildingDef.ExhaustKilowattsWhenActive = 0.125f;
buildingDef.SelfHeatKilowattsWhenActive = 0f;

 

[clickrush]

In the long term you need a complete cooling solution for your surface base. It is one of the first things I've built in this run after sealing off the surface so here we go:

The Robo Miners are in contact with space debris. Other equipment like the Power Transformers and stuff like that have a drop of oil over them.

Ironically I'am not cooling the telescope at all. It is sitting at 36°C though and has researched all of the asteroids already.

[psusi]

13 minutes ago, clickrush said:

The Robo Miners are in contact with space debris. Other equipment like the Power Transformers and stuff like that have a drop of oil over them.

Wait, so you just leave the regolith there instead of trying to remove it?  So the radiant pipe can cool the tile, and the loose regolith, but not the miner, and between the tile and the loose regolith, it's the loose regolith that can cool the miner?  That seems stupid.

[Neotuck]

2 minutes ago, psusi said:

That seems stupid.

stupid or not, it works

[clickrush]

20 minutes ago, psusi said:

Wait, so you just leave the regolith there instead of trying to remove it?  So the radiant pipe can cool the tile, and the loose regolith, but not the miner, and between the tile and the loose regolith, it's the loose regolith that can cool the miner?  That seems stupid.

That is just how heat transfer works in ONI. You need something in the tile that covers a building for it to transfer heat wether that be a gas, a liquid or a solid material (debris or a solid tile). Same rule applies to tempshift plates and pipes.

My duplicants sometimes remove the debris when there is nothing else to do but usually there is enough to tansfer heat. I'am avoiding liquid drops on the parts that require light to get through since it dims the light. The whole build idea is stolen from @Neotuck who was the first one who posted a feasable and reliable robominer cooling concept for solar panels.

[DaveSatx]

my save keeps crashing into black holes. I blame shove voles. I tell ya I hate them.. lol

but back on topic I could just put mesh tiles above it but that feels dumb.  I know it works but.. lol
automated doors that cycle open when the main doors do it is

8 hours ago, clickrush said:

In the long term you need a complete cooling solution for your surface base. It is one of the first things I've built in this run after sealing off the surface so here we go:

The Robo Miners are in contact with space debris. Other equipment like the Power Transformers and stuff like that have a drop of oil over them.

Ironically I'am not cooling the telescope at all. It is sitting at 36°C though and has researched all of the asteroids already.

I like.  was planning to do something like this to generate as much steam as i need.