tzionut Posted July 22, 2018 Share Posted July 22, 2018 I wait for 25 cycle for that germ to die... and still he isn't. He is the highlander of the germs. Any advice's how to get rid of him? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/93847-the-imortal-germ/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lilalaunekuh Posted July 22, 2018 Share Posted July 22, 2018 The easiest way should be a deodorizer on one or two tiles to raise it. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/93847-the-imortal-germ/#findComment-1067199 Share on other sites More sharing options...
tzionut Posted July 22, 2018 Author Share Posted July 22, 2018 This is a little tricky, but possible. I was thinking to make vacuum whit a pump after the vent is dormant.... Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/93847-the-imortal-germ/#findComment-1067205 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nativel Posted July 22, 2018 Share Posted July 22, 2018 I spoke with that germ he says to you - man, if you can't won this game alone against me, just give up and start new game, it's not fair to go on forum and asking for help. One on one or give up. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/93847-the-imortal-germ/#findComment-1067208 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oozinator Posted July 22, 2018 Share Posted July 22, 2018 34 minutes ago, tzionut said: I wait for 25 cycle for that germ to die... and still he isn't. He is the highlander of the germs. Any advice's how to get rid of him? Start new base, you are doomed! Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/93847-the-imortal-germ/#findComment-1067210 Share on other sites More sharing options...
abud Posted July 22, 2018 Share Posted July 22, 2018 2 minutes ago, tzionut said: I was thinking to make vacuum whit a pump after the vent is dormant My personal opinion: you should if you can. Using vacuum on a steam vent is not necessary, but will make things much easier. Probably you will want to get rid some temp shift plates, just because they didn't work on vacuum. I made this one vacuum using gas pumps too. Big pump until about 200 gr/tile, then 2 small pumps. If you don't care about power usage, you can just use the big pump until vacuum. Spoiler Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/93847-the-imortal-germ/#findComment-1067214 Share on other sites More sharing options...
martosss Posted July 22, 2018 Share Posted July 22, 2018 immortal* Why would you need vacuum, if the steam vent will create steam and break the vacuum? Or Why not just surround it with Abyssalite tiles(insulated if outside temperature <20°)? That way the vent will huff and puff, steam will turn into water(~80°) and then you just use the water to produce oxygen or as a heater(I use it for Balm lily farm for example - keeps those purple weeds nice and warm). Now if you're trying to cool that 80° water to 20°, that's a different issue(given you only have 8 dupes you probably don't need that much oxygen anyways). However, I'd still pump the 80° water somewhere and cool it(e.g. AETN), instead of using vacuum to ... keep it hot? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/93847-the-imortal-germ/#findComment-1067241 Share on other sites More sharing options...
heckubis Posted July 22, 2018 Share Posted July 22, 2018 if its a vacuum before the steam starts again it will fill with steam and cool back to a vacuum. if he makes the chamber under it large(and it should be already) enough about 8/10 and still a vacuum the steam will cool quickly forming a pool of water that will quickly drop in temp because of the constant vacuum. a couple updates ago they made it harder to build a vacuum from scratch by removing a door exploit we used to enjoy(the dupes would crawl under the door without opening it.also the reason that doors open now when dupes go past them) he could add a mesh tile in the wall at about water level that will vent the gases and a small amount of water. steam being the lightest gas we have will force all the excess gasses out the mesh and then seal itself with the small amount of water in the tile making a vacuum after the steam cools Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/93847-the-imortal-germ/#findComment-1067266 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slvrsrfr Posted July 22, 2018 Share Posted July 22, 2018 make it cold Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/93847-the-imortal-germ/#findComment-1067286 Share on other sites More sharing options...
heckubis Posted July 22, 2018 Share Posted July 22, 2018 if it was stored in a vacuum chamber large enough to hold an entire activation period and a little extra room. it would start to freeze solid during the off time. but you don't actually wanna do that 50% dig loss. 23 minutes ago, Slvrsrfr said: make it cold Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/93847-the-imortal-germ/#findComment-1067289 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lazy-Anemic Posted July 22, 2018 Share Posted July 22, 2018 Fling it into space, let it be someone else's problem. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/93847-the-imortal-germ/#findComment-1067294 Share on other sites More sharing options...
tzionut Posted July 23, 2018 Author Share Posted July 23, 2018 Quote you only have 8 dupes you probably don't need that much oxygen anyways Yes I kipped only 8 dupes, but only flatulent dupes, so making vacuum is difficult but not impossible. I just tried to condense the 110 steam to water, Not to cool it. For free cooling is easier whit wizworts and co2, The Co2 turn to liquid and go in contact whit hot water then vaporizes again, same process until the water is on your desired temperature then you can pump it. I am just amazed that germ isn't dying. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/93847-the-imortal-germ/#findComment-1067365 Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhailRaptor Posted July 23, 2018 Share Posted July 23, 2018 9 hours ago, martosss said: Why would you need vacuum, if the steam vent will create steam and break the vacuum? Or Why not just surround it with Abyssalite tiles(insulated if outside temperature <20°)? That way the vent will huff and puff, steam will turn into water(~80°) and then you just use the water to produce oxygen or as a heater(I use it for Balm lily farm for example - keeps those purple weeds nice and warm). The big reason is that, if you have properly insulated your Geyser chamber/tank, any new Steam that gets added isn't going to condense into water. The heat simply has nowhere to go. This results in the pressure inside the chamber going over 5 kg/tile of atmosphere, at which point the Geyser will be overpressure and unable to emit anymore Steam. This causes a loss of expected production. One of the simpler, if not necessarily easier, methods is to create a Wheezewort chamber full of Hydrogen, using Metal Tiles and Tempshift Plates, to form a heat deletion zone joined to the chamber. This will pull heat out of the Steam into the Hydrogen for the Wheezeworts to delete. But doing this, you have to be careful not to overwhelm your Wheezeworts. The easiest way to do that is to ensure that the only possible atmosphere in the Geyser chamber is the Steam itself. As it cools, it will condense, and between Active periods will maintain vacuum, allowing the Wheezeworts to "catch up" to the heat produced by the Geyser. You won't cool the water, but you will ensure that you get the maximum production from the Geyser, since it can't go overpressure. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/93847-the-imortal-germ/#findComment-1067369 Share on other sites More sharing options...
martosss Posted July 23, 2018 Share Posted July 23, 2018 Can't you just leave a bit bigger room and let it output all the steam inside, without vacuum, without anything ... just put a water pump and use the hot water that's slowly coming from the steam. As long as the room is something like 10x10 it should be enough to keep it from overpressurizing? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/93847-the-imortal-germ/#findComment-1067385 Share on other sites More sharing options...
tzionut Posted July 23, 2018 Author Share Posted July 23, 2018 Quote he easiest way to do that is to ensure that the only possible atmosphere in the Geyser chamber is the Steam itself. As it cools, it will condense, and between Active periods will maintain vacuum, allowing the Wheezeworts to "catch up" to the heat produced by the Geyser. You won't cool the water, but you will ensure that you get the maximum production from the Geyser, since it can't go overpressure. In my case the geyser finish his dormant period before i make vacuum, so i have polluted oxygen at 96.7 degrees on top (where the stubborn germ is) between 0 and 12 kg of steam between (no over presure because the top of the geyser have aprox 1 k of polluted oxygen/ tile) and on botom some nat gas (from my flatulent dupes), some chlorine and lots of CO2. On top i did't have time to put enough hydrogen before the vent went active and my weezeworts ane stiff for the moment. I make i little exposure for the heat to dissipate. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/93847-the-imortal-germ/#findComment-1067399 Share on other sites More sharing options...
abud Posted July 23, 2018 Share Posted July 23, 2018 13 hours ago, martosss said: Why would you need vacuum, if the steam vent will create steam and break the vacuum? Some people want to cool down their water from vents, but some other (like me and @tzionut) want to just condense them. A vacuum will helps to maximize cooling power to condense steam without cooling the water. I've been trying to get 99C water from steam vent but failed, my best record only 95C water. Most cases it is around 92C - 95C. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/93847-the-imortal-germ/#findComment-1067416 Share on other sites More sharing options...
malloc Posted July 23, 2018 Share Posted July 23, 2018 8 hours ago, abud said: Some people want to cool down their water from vents, but some other (like me and @tzionut) want to just condense them. A vacuum will helps to maximize cooling power to condense steam without cooling the water. I've been trying to get 99C water from steam vent but failed, my best record only 95C water. Most cases it is around 92C - 95C. Is that because of the 5 degree jump/drop at phase transitions? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/93847-the-imortal-germ/#findComment-1067506 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hellshound38 Posted July 23, 2018 Share Posted July 23, 2018 8 minutes ago, malloc said: Is that because of the 5 degree jump/drop at phase transitions? Most likely, however in theory you could use the 95 degree water to precool the new steam before it hits a condensor surface/object. Thus reducing the amount of Weezeworts (example of cooling source), you need and raising the output water temp to closer to 99. However, it is hard. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/93847-the-imortal-germ/#findComment-1067511 Share on other sites More sharing options...
abud Posted July 23, 2018 Share Posted July 23, 2018 1 hour ago, malloc said: Is that because of the 5 degree jump/drop at phase transitions? Yup 1 hour ago, Hellshound38 said: in theory you could use the 95 degree water to precool the new steam I've been trying many things to achieve this but looks like too hard for me without occasionally breaking some pipes or accidentally eating some cooling power. In the end, I just humbly accept 92C-95C. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/93847-the-imortal-germ/#findComment-1067529 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WilsonTheDupe Posted July 27, 2018 Share Posted July 27, 2018 Just let it live, it is one germ. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/93847-the-imortal-germ/#findComment-1068993 Share on other sites More sharing options...
tzionut Posted July 27, 2018 Author Share Posted July 27, 2018 Quote Just let it live, it is one germ. I checked again after 20 cycles and I must inform you that the germ is finally dead. The tragic accident was happened when, encouraged by Nativel, he tried to fight against my flatulent dupes. A natural gas fart pushed it in the insignificant chlorine spot where he sleep for eternity. Rest in peace my little germ. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/93847-the-imortal-germ/#findComment-1069004 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nativel Posted July 27, 2018 Share Posted July 27, 2018 11 minutes ago, tzionut said: I checked again after 20 cycles and I must inform you that the germ is finally dead. last will and testament of that germ was to post this music in this post Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/93847-the-imortal-germ/#findComment-1069012 Share on other sites More sharing options...
greenpheonix632 Posted July 27, 2018 Share Posted July 27, 2018 On 7/22/2018 at 5:54 PM, tzionut said: I wait for 25 cycle for that germ to die... and still he isn't. He is the highlander of the germs. Any advice's how to get rid of him? send it into space. TAKE THAT YOU STUPID GERM Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/93847-the-imortal-germ/#findComment-1069022 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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