FIXBUGFIXBUGFIX Posted May 11, 2018 Share Posted May 11, 2018 Spoiler Automation is used to prevent pipe from broken. Work principle For almost every building which exhausts heat, when its surrounding is hotter than the its overheating temperature, its surrounding will reset to their overheating temperature. (This feature was introduced in OC update with the death of tepidizer super boiler. It's not a Feature, it's a Bug!) In this battery cooler, the battery are surrounded by nathpha(↖,↘), hydrogen(↗), crude oil(↙). The aquatuner is submerged in little petroleum. And a temperature plate is behind the aquatuner to accelerate heat transfer. The battery is cooled down by the crude oil to prevent it overheats. The oil is cooled down by polluted water. The PW is cooled down by aquatuner. The aquatuner is cooled down by hydrogen. The temperature of hot hydrogen is reset to 75C by the battery. Spoiler BEGINNING After about 1/8 cycle After about 7 cycle battery temperature resetter cooler system.sav Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/90723-battery-cooler/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
chemie Posted May 11, 2018 Share Posted May 11, 2018 Or just don't build batteries in oil biome or volcanoes. I have my batteries in the wild of caustic biomes with coal gens, pet gens, Nat gas gens, and have never needed to cool them. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/90723-battery-cooler/#findComment-1034522 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soulwind Posted May 11, 2018 Share Posted May 11, 2018 Not really seeing the point of this. It's neat and all, but using a 1200 watt tuner to chill 5 watts of battery heat? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/90723-battery-cooler/#findComment-1034527 Share on other sites More sharing options...
FIXBUGFIXBUGFIX Posted May 11, 2018 Author Share Posted May 11, 2018 15 minutes ago, chemie said: Or just don't build batteries in oil biome or volcanoes. I have my batteries in the wild of caustic biomes with coal gens, pet gens, Nat gas gens, and have never needed to cool them. I guess you misunderstand what's this thread talking about? It's not about how to cool down batteries, it's about how to use battery to cool down others, as a cold source. Just now, Soulwind said: Not really seeing the point of this. It's near and all, but using a 1200 watt tuner to chill 5 watts of battery heat? Using a 5 watts of battery to chill 1200 watt tuner heat Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/90723-battery-cooler/#findComment-1034528 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BionicSandwich Posted May 11, 2018 Share Posted May 11, 2018 the battery keeps the hydrogen at a consistent temp, in order to allow more heat to be dumped and deleted in it? thats what I got from it anyway Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/90723-battery-cooler/#findComment-1034529 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MidnightSteam Posted May 11, 2018 Share Posted May 11, 2018 Very nice find! This is a great exploit, bug! feature! I'm wondering why the battery heat works this way? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/90723-battery-cooler/#findComment-1034531 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soulwind Posted May 11, 2018 Share Posted May 11, 2018 Oh, so you are using another temperature bug for cooling. Ok. Does this even still work with the drip cooling bug fix? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/90723-battery-cooler/#findComment-1034533 Share on other sites More sharing options...
FIXBUGFIXBUGFIX Posted May 11, 2018 Author Share Posted May 11, 2018 1 minute ago, BionicSandwich said: the battery keeps the hydrogen at a consistent temp, in order to allow more heat to be dumped and deleted in it? thats what I got from it anyway yes Just now, MidnightSteam said: Very nice find! This is a great exploit, bug! feature! I'm wondering why the battery heat works this way? Not only battery, but almost every building which exhausts heat work in this way. But by comparing all of them, I select battery as the best choice. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/90723-battery-cooler/#findComment-1034534 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MidnightSteam Posted May 11, 2018 Share Posted May 11, 2018 Just now, Soulwind said: Oh, so you are using another temperature bug for cooling. Ok. Does this even still work with the drip cooling bug fix? There is no drip cooling here. The hydrogen temperature is being reset by the battery. Just now, R9MX4 said: Not only battery, but almost every building which exhausts heat work in this way. But by comparing all of them, I select battery as the best choice. So then I can use another Aquatuner? lol Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/90723-battery-cooler/#findComment-1034535 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soulwind Posted May 11, 2018 Share Posted May 11, 2018 I realize there's no drip cooling here, but the root of the drip cooling bug was allowing a small mass to have a disproportionate effect on a large mass. I was just wondering if the bug fix may have also altered this bug too, since it's a related effect (or at least appears to be) Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/90723-battery-cooler/#findComment-1034541 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimgaw Posted May 11, 2018 Share Posted May 11, 2018 Borg Cube 2.0, thanks to a hack feature devs put in game to stop us from getting high temps. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/90723-battery-cooler/#findComment-1034542 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lifegrow Posted May 11, 2018 Share Posted May 11, 2018 R(9)org Module. Very interesting, but entirely useless in normal play for the most part. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/90723-battery-cooler/#findComment-1034544 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yoma_Nosme Posted May 11, 2018 Share Posted May 11, 2018 This looks super buggy-exploity....but I like it for one reason. Being, to see how the devs will fix it! Since this bug comes from a half measure bug fix from the past and you kind of turned the tables on them...hilarious! Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/90723-battery-cooler/#findComment-1034545 Share on other sites More sharing options...
FIXBUGFIXBUGFIX Posted May 11, 2018 Author Share Posted May 11, 2018 19 minutes ago, MidnightSteam said: There is no drip cooling here. The hydrogen temperature is being reset by the battery. So then I can use another Aquatuner? lol Sorry, you can't. There are two ways how buildings generate heat in game. The first one is exhausting heat to surroundings, another is heating building itself. Almost every building has both way, which means they also exhaust heat. But aquatuner only heats itself, not exhausts heat. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/90723-battery-cooler/#findComment-1034546 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lilalaunekuh Posted May 11, 2018 Share Posted May 11, 2018 40 minutes ago, R9MX4 said: Not only battery, but almost every building which exhausts heat work in this way. You made my day buddy Now there are so many new heat dumps i can build Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/90723-battery-cooler/#findComment-1034549 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MidnightSteam Posted May 11, 2018 Share Posted May 11, 2018 Hmm, I tried putting an Aquatuner in or thermo regulator but it fails. As soon as I switch in the battery the temperature drops but anything else and it keeps rising. So this might just be for batteries? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/90723-battery-cooler/#findComment-1034551 Share on other sites More sharing options...
FIXBUGFIXBUGFIX Posted May 11, 2018 Author Share Posted May 11, 2018 7 minutes ago, MidnightSteam said: Hmm, I tried putting an Aquatuner in or thermo regulator but it fails. As soon as I switch in the battery the temperature drops but anything else and it keeps rising. So this might just be for batteries? Not every building has exhausts heat. But almost every building has it. I suggest you check it in game. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/90723-battery-cooler/#findComment-1034554 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MidnightSteam Posted May 11, 2018 Share Posted May 11, 2018 I simplified the design so it'd be easier to build in game - using 200 Kg of water and polluted water per tile. Some things I noticed is that the battery must be running(have some juice in it) or it'll fail. Here's the save: BatteryCooler2.sav Edit: adjusted hydrogen to 2 Kg per tile. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/90723-battery-cooler/#findComment-1034559 Share on other sites More sharing options...
alown Posted May 11, 2018 Share Posted May 11, 2018 Have you try to built your battery in wolframite?i think it can be fun and probably work better... (i'm not sure if you can done it in wolframite, but you didnt spoke about the metal you used, and there is a big difference between iron and gold, in this example, it make a huge difference) Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/90723-battery-cooler/#findComment-1034564 Share on other sites More sharing options...
FIXBUGFIXBUGFIX Posted May 11, 2018 Author Share Posted May 11, 2018 38 minutes ago, MidnightSteam said: I simplified the design so it'd be easier to build in game - using 200 Kg of water and polluted water per tile. Some things I noticed is that the battery must be running(have some juice in it) or it'll fail. Here's the save: BatteryCooler2.sav Edit: adjusted hydrogen to 2 Kg per tile. I use naphtha and copper battery, because I want to reduce the heat transfer between hot hydrogen and the battery. I'm not sure how much negative impact there is if I use a layer of PW and a layer of water. Did you compare your design with mine? Easy to build is also important. If there is no big difference, I think your design would be better. 3 minutes ago, alown said: Have you try to built your battery in wolframite?i think it can be fun and probably work better... (i'm not sure if you can done it in wolframite, but you didnt spoke about the metal you used, and there is a big difference between iron and gold, in this example, it make a huge difference) There are three principle. The first and the most important one is, the surrounding will reset to building's overheating temperature. If I use gold amalgam, the temperature will be reset to 125C instead of 75C. TOO BAD. Reduce the heat transfer between hot hydrogen and the battery. So I guess wolframite won't be a good choice since its high thermal conductivity. But if you want to cool down a magma pool, wolframite is your only choice. (And I guess you can't avoid battery overheat at that time, so you can delete the battery cooling moldue) Easy to build. Copper is easy to be acquired. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/90723-battery-cooler/#findComment-1034568 Share on other sites More sharing options...
alown Posted May 11, 2018 Share Posted May 11, 2018 3 minutes ago, R9MX4 said: Reduce the heat transfer between hot hydrogen and the battery. So I guess wolframite won't be a good choice since its high thermal conductivity. But if you want to cool down a magma pool, wolframite is your only choice. (And I guess you can't avoid battery overheat at that time, so you can delete the battery cooling moldue) But, your water is transfering heat to the battery, and the mass of the water is far way higher than the hydrogen. So, the heat transfer will be from the water, not the hydrogen ?(i'm not sure about it, but i think it's really insignificant) Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/90723-battery-cooler/#findComment-1034572 Share on other sites More sharing options...
FIXBUGFIXBUGFIX Posted May 11, 2018 Author Share Posted May 11, 2018 1 minute ago, alown said: But, your water is transfering heat to the battery, and the mass of the water is far way higher than the hydrogen. So, the heat transfer will be from the water, not the hydrogen ?(i'm not sure about it, but i think it's really insignificant) In this system, the heat is deleted by battery reset the temperature of hot hydrogen. So it's important to reduce the heat transfer between hot hydrogen and the battery, because this part of heat is not deleted, but go into battery→crude oil→polluted water→aquatuner→hydrogen and wait to be deleted in the next time. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/90723-battery-cooler/#findComment-1034577 Share on other sites More sharing options...
landromat Posted May 11, 2018 Share Posted May 11, 2018 Here i am, still waiting for bug free cooling method Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/90723-battery-cooler/#findComment-1034586 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BionicSandwich Posted May 11, 2018 Share Posted May 11, 2018 1 minute ago, landromat said: Here i am, still waiting for bug free cooling method wheezeworts, also the AETN. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/90723-battery-cooler/#findComment-1034587 Share on other sites More sharing options...
landromat Posted May 11, 2018 Share Posted May 11, 2018 2 minutes ago, BionicSandwich said: wheezeworts, also the AETN. i mean new method Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/90723-battery-cooler/#findComment-1034590 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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