Simsure Posted December 2, 2017 Share Posted December 2, 2017 1 hour ago, Endedbox45 said: Well first we know that Winona clearly knows who Charlie is considering that one of her likes are "Ha! I know all of your moves, Charlie!" And considering the fact that she's more of a worker type she might've come from a factory. Well....yes,is her sister. Anyway I didn't know that thing of the radio,pretty curious that the founder Robert Wagstaff name start with a "W".... Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/81990-how-winona-came-to-the-ds-world/page/2/#findComment-980257 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spaartan Posted December 2, 2017 Share Posted December 2, 2017 4 hours ago, Endedbox45 said: Well first we know that Winona clearly knows who Charlie is considering that one of her likes are "Ha! I know all of your moves, Charlie!" And considering the fact that she's more of a worker type she might've come from a factory. Well, she's kinda Charlie's sister... And I believe she does have quotes about production lines and factories? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/81990-how-winona-came-to-the-ds-world/page/2/#findComment-980303 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpikeGuy Posted December 2, 2017 Share Posted December 2, 2017 A few more quotes of note, which I've filed under categories (Note: "leaked version" refers to the quotes that appear in her leaked speech file back in March 2017, while "official version" is what's in her quotes right now. If it's unmarked, then the two versions match up). Arrival at the Constant Gift- "My presence is a gift. Ha." Home- "They say you can't go home again." Past job as a (coal) miner Pickaxe (leaked version)- "I don't do that anymore." Miner Hat- "I put that behind me." Guano Turf (leaked version)- "That's a chunk of coal mine." Canary (normal)- "That brings back memories." Canary (held, leaked version)- "You wanna come mine some coal with me?" Factory experience Bigfoot- "At least it doesn't have steel-toed workboots!" Tail o' Three Cats- "The preferred tool of the foreman." Ewecus- "Looks like the old foreman. Ha!" Voxola, specifically Divining Rod base (rod placed, unlocked, leaked version)- "Is... this how the bossman disappeared?" Charlie Mandrake (active mob)- "This is exactly what having a little sister's like." Fire Pit (out)- "My sister was afraid of the dark." Shadow Atrium (leaked version)- "She used to have such a big heart." Rose (official version)- "Not sure how to feel about that..." Marble Statue (Tragedy, official version)- "We thought she was gone..." Abigail (failed revival)- "No one should ever lose a sister." Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/81990-how-winona-came-to-the-ds-world/page/2/#findComment-980348 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrDeepDarkmind Posted December 2, 2017 Share Posted December 2, 2017 On 9/14/2017 at 2:21 AM, JohnWatson said: winona kept charlie's toys when they were kids and charlie couldn't do anything because of winona's physical strength charlie knew about the DS world, the nightmare creatures, and their powers, so she deliberately went to become maxwell's assistant one day charlie rigged waxmell's book to take them to the DS world on purpose, knowing how powerful she'll get there when she gains full control of the DS world by taking the throne from maxwell and wilson, she's near the final steps of her ultimate goal fueled by the desire for revenge, charlie pulls in her own sister, winona, where she's completely helpless from charlie's power finally the tables have turned, treat your little siblings well Top 10 Anime Plot Twists Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/81990-how-winona-came-to-the-ds-world/page/2/#findComment-980367 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pyr0mrcow Posted December 2, 2017 Share Posted December 2, 2017 Winona is seen through the Atrium Gate at the end of Metheus. My guess: The survivors fight Fuely. Atrium Gate activates. Running away. Winona happens upon one of the connected dimensional gates at the same time, accidentally comes to DST world. Maybe meets up with survivors (her lore at that point is unclear). Survivors realize that they can use the Gate to go back, start experimenting with it to try and connect to a gate to their world (like what Win used). Forge happens. Something like that. I think the Florid Postern quote just refers to how they can't return to the previously visited DST world. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/81990-how-winona-came-to-the-ds-world/page/2/#findComment-980385 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sinister_Fang Posted December 3, 2017 Share Posted December 3, 2017 3 hours ago, Pyr0mrcow said: Winona is seen through the Atrium Gate at the end of Metheus. I never remember seeing this... Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/81990-how-winona-came-to-the-ds-world/page/2/#findComment-980428 Share on other sites More sharing options...
minespatch Posted December 3, 2017 Share Posted December 3, 2017 8 hours ago, SpikeGuy said: Ewecus- "Looks like the old foreman. Ha!" Time to draw Wagstaff with a ewecus-like face. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/81990-how-winona-came-to-the-ds-world/page/2/#findComment-980461 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpikeGuy Posted December 10, 2017 Share Posted December 10, 2017 Another two VERY interesting quotes from the leaked speech files: Wooden Thing (generic)- "That gadget has my name on it." Divining Rod (start, before being picked up from its base)- "I'm probably one of the few left that knows how to use these." As well as one official quote: Divining Rod Base (generic)- "Just like in the bossman's workshop." Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/81990-how-winona-came-to-the-ds-world/page/2/#findComment-982955 Share on other sites More sharing options...
minespatch Posted December 10, 2017 Share Posted December 10, 2017 1 minute ago, SpikeGuy said: "Just like in the bossman's workshop." Winona and the ink machine? So... You think Winona was a sacrifice from her work? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/81990-how-winona-came-to-the-ds-world/page/2/#findComment-982956 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpikeGuy Posted December 10, 2017 Share Posted December 10, 2017 31 minutes ago, SpikeGuy said: Wooden Thing (generic)- "That gadget has my name on it." Technically, it's Maxwell's name (or "makswell"), but I guess Winona can't read Elder Futhark (not many people can, without a translator). So I'm assuming she put her signature somewhere not easily seen. As for the other stuff, I think the overall trend points to the fact that Wagstaff helped Maxwell (knowingly or obliviously, or some combination of the two) with a lot of the Adventure Mode items, and it seems that Winona assisted him with it somewhat. She understands certain parts of it, but is confused by others (most obviously its presence in The Constant). Long story short, Voxola is more important to the lore than just the radios. The fire-related quotes suggest Winona lost something significant that night (if she's referring to the Voxola fire and not something else). This could be either the inventions mentioned above or Wagstaff ("Voxola founder Robert Wagstaff went missing the night of the fire"), as far as I know. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/81990-how-winona-came-to-the-ds-world/page/2/#findComment-982970 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pyr0mrcow Posted December 10, 2017 Share Posted December 10, 2017 I think it's meant in a figurative way. Either that she helped in making it, or that she's excited to see technology of that sort. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/81990-how-winona-came-to-the-ds-world/page/2/#findComment-982971 Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainChaotica Posted December 10, 2017 Share Posted December 10, 2017 Hmm. She definitely also worked in a factory/on a production line, 'cos I remember seeing multiple quotes about that. Heck, she even thinks of adorable fluffy kitties as utilitarian! ("She'll keep the rats out of the factory.") This one is interesting to me,'cos I could've sworn that when I had her examine a pet before, said "I'm gonna spoil you rotten." She could've easily worked in a coal mine and THEN a factory; and considering the factory fire happened really recently in the Don't Starve timeline, that would be the second job of the two. There's also some fun quotes in the Hallowed Night's candy--for example, with the candied lice (Iseewhatyoudidthere) she's like "Hey,everybody! Watch me eat these bugs!" and on another one, she says something about "Gross" in a "cool!" kind of tone. Which tells me that her childhood relationship with Charlie might've included big-brother type stuff like showing her bugs or opening her mouth at Charlie with chewed food in it,etc. just to see her go "EEEEWWW! MOOOOOOOMMMM!" So I dunno about directly bullying with strength, but teasing and annoying, definitely. Now, if you'll excuse me, I'm actually playing as Winona in my current game, and it's just about time to introduce Deerclops to my ever-industrious little friends--TONS OF KILLER BEES!. Mwahaha. ...Notorious Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/81990-how-winona-came-to-the-ds-world/page/2/#findComment-982987 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toroic Posted December 10, 2017 Share Posted December 10, 2017 On 12/1/2017 at 4:02 PM, Commissar Oscar said: I beg to differ, but that claim seems to be a bit of a stretch. I too think Winona could have had more mechanics, both positive and negative, but at the same time she isn't genuinely broken in any aspect. Her "counterpart", Wilson, isn't any more complicated than her and he is accepted as a standard character. If you had a linear distribution of characters by mechanical strength both Wilson and Winona would be in the bottom quarter in DST, along with Willow and Wes. Wilson is generally perceived as the “standard” or “average” by the community but overwhelmingly most of the characters who have perks have more significant perks than they have weaknesses. It would be entirely fair to say that Wilson is the second-weakest character in the game after Wes due to: 1) How long his beard takes to grow 2) Winter being less than 1/4 a year, and the only time the insulation bonus is helpful 3) The limited value of and easily attainable alternative sources of beard hair. (Wilson generates only 10 beard hair from the start of fall to the start of spring, it’s very easy to get more than that from a day hunting beardlings and especially if you have beardlords.) I like Wilson but he has no unique and useful strategies nor any advantage for standard strategies. Even as a character for new players he has some fundamental problems because he loses his beard on death. (As opposed to other newbie-oriented characters like Winona and Willow whose perks are especially (one could almost say exclusively) useful for new players. You’re 100% right about the perception in the community but the reality is that Wilson is weaker mechanically than 75-92% of the other characters with a perk that has very little player interaction except shaving every 2.5 hours. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/81990-how-winona-came-to-the-ds-world/page/2/#findComment-983092 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spaartan Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 21 hours ago, SpikeGuy said: The fire-related quotes suggest Winona lost something significant that night (if she's referring to the Voxola fire and not something else). This could be either the inventions mentioned above or Wagstaff ("Voxola founder Robert Wagstaff went missing the night of the fire"), as far as I know. Willow has to involved with this fire somehow Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/81990-how-winona-came-to-the-ds-world/page/2/#findComment-983298 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Botaxalim Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 So last vid we have is hidden final video from metheus puzzle, rose - charlie. Somehow winona arrival doesnt explained. Maybe we should wait , since klei was busy with forge and soon hamlet. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/81990-how-winona-came-to-the-ds-world/page/2/#findComment-983618 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeklo Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 11 minutes ago, Botaxalim said: So last vid we have is hidden final video from metheus puzzle, rose - charlie. Somehow winona arrival doesnt explained. Maybe we should wait , since klei was busy with forge and soon hamlet. The last video would technically be the forge trailer. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/81990-how-winona-came-to-the-ds-world/page/2/#findComment-983619 Share on other sites More sharing options...
minespatch Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 18 minutes ago, Botaxalim said: So last vid we have is hidden final video from metheus puzzle, rose - charlie. Somehow winona arrival doesnt explained. Maybe we should wait , since klei was busy with forge and soon hamlet. 7 minutes ago, Zeklo said: The last video would technically be the forge trailer. Yup, the trailer timeline is "What lies beyond" and "Forge". Hamlet is probably during Maxwell's reign so the single player/DLC timeline is still different from the New Reign/DST timeline. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/81990-how-winona-came-to-the-ds-world/page/2/#findComment-983621 Share on other sites More sharing options...
pedregales Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 On 10/12/2017 at 10:55 AM, Toros said: [...] Wilson is generally perceived as the “standard” or “average” by the community but overwhelmingly most of the characters who have perks have more significant perks than they have weaknesses. [...] Exactly because of that Wilson is a standard or average character, he is the one that gives the closest vanilla DS/DST experience, the others make the game easier by reducing task or adding items that improve a certain aspect of the game (Wolfgang, Winona), or harder (Wes). Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/81990-how-winona-came-to-the-ds-world/page/2/#findComment-983743 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxposting Posted December 15, 2017 Share Posted December 15, 2017 On 3. 12. 2017 at 3:45 AM, Sinister_Fang said: I never remember seeing this... not clearly ( inverted silhoutte) but at the What lies beyond found in metheus after doing the puzzle Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/81990-how-winona-came-to-the-ds-world/page/2/#findComment-984425 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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