StarvedKasad Posted September 2, 2016 Share Posted September 2, 2016 Hello guys, I just wanted to share this frustration I have about butterflies. After I discovered what an amazing ingredient they are and how easy they are to create/catch/kill,I wondered why on earth are people not making butterfly farms more often? Pros of having a butterfly farm: -It's super easy to create (the only difficult component is 2 silk for a 10 flower stack) -Provides cheap healing and food source -Butterfly wings are an amazingly cheap food component excluding winter.You can use them as ice on most recipies. -Butter muffin.Second cheapest food after dragonpie. Is fast food (pun intended) ,heals a lot and is crafted for just 1 butterfly wing,1 vegetable (can be mushroom too! ) and two freaking twigs. Nowdays I always have a butterfly farm in my base and I always wonder why people are not insta-making butterfly farms in their bases.It's the next best thing after ice and is very easy to gather wings! P.S. Is there any client based mod for DST for not grabbing flowers like in DS mods? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/69940-butterfliesan-amazing-food-source/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arlesienne Posted September 2, 2016 Share Posted September 2, 2016 Why? Because people are even more likely to just pick it apart and shove a garland into my face with a smartass grin than with apiaries. I build signs FLOWERS FOR INSECTS - NO PICKING... But do they listen? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/69940-butterfliesan-amazing-food-source/#findComment-809915 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kitty Cat Meow Posted September 2, 2016 Share Posted September 2, 2016 If I don't want my flowers to get picked, I hide them inside of walls. I'd recommend getting the "No Wall Attack" mod for this type of butterfly farm, Also "Geometric Placement" makes building it about 1000x easier. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/69940-butterfliesan-amazing-food-source/#findComment-809922 Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarlZalph Posted September 3, 2016 Share Posted September 3, 2016 From what I see on the servers I administrate over, the players rarely stick around past/during Winter. The following is what I personally see as trends on the servers with the average Joe Schroe joining. As you know butterflies don't spawn in Winter, so a little over half the in-game time is available for the average Joe to collect them (20 days of Autumn by default). Usually the first 5-6 days is done for exploring the map layout, which pushes the clock to about 14-15 days left. After the average Joe explores, they tend towards making an alchemy station and/or a crockpot. By the time they've got that primitive setup done they then tend towards gathering up plantables and manure for fertilizing. This usually takes another 5-10 days depending on how well they've explored, leaving about 4-10 days left of Autumn. By this time I see them go after spiders or getting a lantern. The lantern doesn't take much time at all to get since it's just a zip in zip out dealio, though the average Joe seems to have problems killing spiders efficiently. They're doing the spiders to use the monster meat for the meatballs and to save the silk for the upcoming Winter by making the Winter hats. ...This is making me want to create a logger for the exact timings people are having for these actions. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/69940-butterfliesan-amazing-food-source/#findComment-809926 Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainChaotica Posted September 3, 2016 Share Posted September 3, 2016 I have a problem with people picking the flowers that I deliberately plant _right next to the beeboxes_, too, so I doubt I'd ever be able to have enough around for an effective butterfly farm. :\ (and wow, that timetable of what "Average Joe"s do when is making me feel really generic...) ...Notorious Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/69940-butterfliesan-amazing-food-source/#findComment-810026 Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnonymousKoala Posted September 3, 2016 Share Posted September 3, 2016 10 minutes ago, CaptainChaotica said: I have a problem with people picking the flowers that I deliberately plant _right next to the beeboxes_, too, so I doubt I'd ever be able to have enough around for an effective butterfly farm. :\ (and wow, that timetable of what "Average Joe"s do when is making me feel really generic...) ...Notorious wait what. Dont people make the connection? Butterflies are the best source early game and later on they're not as worth, especially not in Winter where there's not a single butterfly. Besides, food is plentiful enough already. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/69940-butterfliesan-amazing-food-source/#findComment-810029 Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainChaotica Posted September 3, 2016 Share Posted September 3, 2016 Newbies/impatient people/really young kids don't. (Or, to simplify the "WAR3 IZ BAIZ?????????" crowd.) I had this one game where a kid who was only 7 picked the beebox flowers because he needed sanity in a hurry, I said PLEASE not to, we _need_ those or we can't have any honey...and TWICE later on I still found the flowers gone anyway. ...OY. (bangs head against nearest wall) ...Notorious Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/69940-butterfliesan-amazing-food-source/#findComment-810032 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTraditionalGentleman Posted September 3, 2016 Share Posted September 3, 2016 7 hours ago, AnonymousKoala said: wait what. Dont people make the connection? One would think, but I've still had to explicitly tell people not to pick the flowers around my bee boxes too. We need to get some designated "anti-player" bee mines. Maybe that would get them to stop Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/69940-butterfliesan-amazing-food-source/#findComment-810102 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mobbstar Posted September 4, 2016 Share Posted September 4, 2016 16 hours ago, TheTraditionalGentleman said: One would think, but I've still had to explicitly tell people not to pick the flowers around my bee boxes too. We need to get some designated "anti-player" bee mines. Maybe that would get them to stop Bee: "Oi yew scallywag, picken ma flowers! Imma sting yew e'es out!" Please make this a thing, somebody. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/69940-butterfliesan-amazing-food-source/#findComment-810399 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arlesienne Posted September 4, 2016 Share Posted September 4, 2016 23 hours ago, TheTraditionalGentleman said: One would think, but I've still had to explicitly tell people not to pick the flowers around my bee boxes too. We need to get some designated "anti-player" bee mines. Maybe that would get them to stop Craftable killerbee hives targeting only people who do not plant at least one flower near the beebox? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/69940-butterfliesan-amazing-food-source/#findComment-810472 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diezen Posted September 5, 2016 Share Posted September 5, 2016 If there was a way to only plant Roses would be nice, and look nice too. But I have a feeling that players who still pick the flowers will still ignore the damage... Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/69940-butterfliesan-amazing-food-source/#findComment-810630 Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarlZalph Posted September 5, 2016 Share Posted September 5, 2016 19 minutes ago, Diezen said: If there was a way to only plant Roses would be nice, and look nice too. But I have a feeling that players who still pick the flowers will still ignore the damage... I have a feeling most people going in don't realize that prototyping something gives sanity. Perhaps if there was an icon next to each lock with the brain and a +10 or something to help denote the benefits of prototyping. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/69940-butterfliesan-amazing-food-source/#findComment-810635 Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeddoFreddo Posted September 5, 2016 Share Posted September 5, 2016 @DiezenPicking the roses deals 1 damage. Eating the petals gives 1 health. ...... lol Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/69940-butterfliesan-amazing-food-source/#findComment-810657 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShadowDuelist Posted September 5, 2016 Share Posted September 5, 2016 On 9/2/2016 at 8:40 PM, Arlesienne said: I build signs FLOWERS FOR INSECTS - NO PICKING... But do they listen? On a similar note I always place at least 3 warning signs that I made a tentacle farm at some place and I even change the floor there to make it more noticeable, even on minimap. 10 days after that my tentacle farm is covered in skeletons of players whose final words were "OMFG WHY WUS DAT THER WHAT IS DAT". After i mention"read the sign" they leave. My conclusion is that some signs need to have neon lights for some people to notice. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/69940-butterfliesan-amazing-food-source/#findComment-810729 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joachim Posted September 5, 2016 Share Posted September 5, 2016 Maybe you should put some walls around the flowers to make it harder for players to reach, so they have time to reconsider picking those flowers. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/69940-butterfliesan-amazing-food-source/#findComment-810732 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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