Complete lack of resources makes this game impossible

[flamewolf393]

I have yet to survive past day 3 on default. You cant farm because there are basically no seeds anywhere, and you run out of tools because flint is so insanely rare. One game I searched for 3 days straight (barely finding enough berries/carrots) and did not find a single piece of either. Even with maxing out the spawn rates for food items, I still lost on day 10 to starvation.

 

Farms really should produce seeds when you harvest them. There is no reason for this to not happen. We need to be able to replant. As for flint, my recommendation would be to make it so we could use up stones, say on a 5:1 basis to make our tools.

 

Because of the insane rarity of these resources, getting by in this game is complete luck. I have yet to see a single instance of strategy. I am dissappointed in this artificial difficulty. If you want to make a game hard, then make it legitimately a challenge, rather than just not giving the players the things they need to even have a chance.

[ARamblingSpider]

Good. The game is suppose to be uncompromising.

[flamewolf393]

You consider it good that the game basically cant be played?

[PopcornTattoo]

the game can be played perfectly fine with the way it is now

 

you're just no good at it

[Battal]

Resources are randomly spawned, so it's pretty much just luck.  Also, if you're aiming for farms before day 3, you need to organize your priorities.  You should find a spot with resources you need before getting settled with farms and such.

[flamewolf393]

@cowlraven: How does the resources physically not being there equate to me not being any good at it? You either have the resources or you dont. That aspect of it is pure luck. No being good or bad at it.

 

@lord_battal: I was only trying for farms on the one time when I maxed out all the good spawns in the options around day 7 or so.

[Rosten]

To address your problems

1. Seeds are spawned by birds, and birds only, so go shoo away those birds for a chance at a seed, and flint isn't rare, ive yet to see a grassland biome not chock full of it

2. They dont produce seeds for a reason, like i said, make a bird cage, and feed your fruits to the bird in the cage and get yourself some specialized seeds, and if you're trying to get a farm before day 3, something is very, very wrong/

3. I honestly don't see what you're saying here, resources are a heck of a lot more plentiful then in a lot of other games, you just need to look instead of making your base where you spawn, because if your getting farms by day 3, thats what you must be doing.

 

Oh, and side note, if you're maxing out the spawn rates on berries and carrots and still dying to starvation, there is something HORRIBLY wrong, with that, you've got berry bushes and carrots every 5 steps, so i fail to see how you're starving

[Battal]

If you failed with maxed out spawns, you really, really shouldn't be playing this game.

[Rosten]

If you failed with maxed out spawns, you really, really shouldn't be playing this game.

Yea. or any game, for that matter.

[23rd]

"I can't make it past day 3" is not equal to "this is the game's fault," especially with an active forum's worth of people who regularly go by day 100.

[Beardgang]

I feel your pain with flint. I made a new world and couldn't find flint and searched for a awhile. It can be chance or luck, I mean their always are set pieces.

[the truthseeker]

Possible responses the original poster was saying literal and otherwise

 

"I know it's Impossibru! You all are just all too experienced to know it, you hardcore gamers you!"

 

(There's the type a personality in me that gets prodded when I read a post like this. This is how I fight replying to most posters responding like that. )

 

 

"Hmmm, so you're saying it's impossible to get seeds for farms or any flint past day three?

 

 

 

BAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!"

 

*Takes a deep breath*

 

 

"BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!"

 

 

*Eventually stops laughing and gasps out the words*

 

"Wrong, not the right way to do it!"

 

 

I'll be nice now, since you made the classic new player mistake of thinking your mistakes are how everybody must play simply lacking experience (instead of asking for help first.)

Be warned some people WILL seriously reply like this and mock your ignorance without any though of helping n00bs acting like "knowledgeable players" or even "experts." Ask before stating "fact" or face this reply from many and not as "nicely" as I did.

 

 

 

 

As for what to do "better,"  

 

I recommend you keep playing until you improve;. This means as stated, learn what your priorities are first.

 

 

Maybe you start in the "grasslands" (that green-grassy looking place with twigs, berry bushes, grass tufts and sometimes a few to several flint,) or maybe you don't and start in the resource-specific (or even limited) areas of the Forest or savanna/desert. Maybe, just maybe you'll even start in the Quarry and can find flint/twigs to mine gold rock and be ready to start making crafting machines or find Beefalo in an adjacent savanna. (If you start in/near swamps, just don't go in there first/leave it right now. Please, just don't. Swamp management is after you learn fundamentals/have some sort of armor/helmet. )

 

Well, it doesn't matter if you don't know how to prioritize, as you'll still starve

 

Even if you spawn in the grasslands and find 8 berry bushes in that zone (a "lucky start,") along with a lot of grass, twigs and 8-9 flint, you can't stay there and must explore a lot of space in the next several days.

 

Bushes take at LEAST 3 days to regrow (and may take up to 5.) That means you MUST have a reliable source of food for 3-4 more days and have (if somehow you do nothing else but eat berries saving your other food for crock pots or can't kill/find any other food) 5-6 berries a day to eat (whether they are cooked for 12 hunger or uncooked for 9.375,) If you don't hold onto seeds (and learn to chase off birds to make them sometimes drop seeds) you can "top off" with 3 hunger per seed (5 if cooked) 

 

 

 

This includes making a torch and looking at night. Whether you make a campfire at night cook some food and eat it before you do (if all you find are berries and only have a few for example) or eat the many berries uncooked or pick carrots free-growing and skip the campfire or save those carrots to harvest later in winter comes after you play a while and find out what playing style works for you.  

 

 

By exploring and not simply immediately picking clean an area (but I would recommend doing that to the first grassland you find except maybe trees and flowers...the 12 petals for a garland is fine for beginning players but pick it AFTER the next day and top off sanity not all 12 petals at once,) you explore more biomes and more varied resources. To do this more efficiently, find the ends of an area and trace its perimeter. you'll uncover a LOT of undiscovered land. When you know what you're looking for, then you can "finish off th middle areas" later.  You'll learn what resources to top off in the first couple of days and what to get for the minimums and when something falls ":in between" these two extremes. 

 

If all that fails, mention specifically when you start to go downhill and with what in specific order. 

 

 

 

 

 

"But I need a guide if it's true it's not really impossible!"

For "How to survive" new tips/Guides, there are plenty.

When people use words and pictures they more often focus on the main points and "skip mistakes done" in videos. More on that latter part below.

For this part now, I'll start with recommending this guide, Sure, the "veterans will say it's "only day 83,": but you, thinking you could survive several winters (or even just one) may seem dauntingly impossible, so we'll start with surviving a winter and your next goal will be that range.  

 

If looking for something basic (and earlier released so it misses a lot of updated stuff we now have but still is a good fundamentals site) this actually gives good tips as well. 

 

But if you really need a step-by-step hand holding guide I'll (mostly) recommend this guide

 

 

(Don't continuously feed logs or even pine cones to the fire, just make it when it gets dark or almost is about to turn to night, not dusk, and IF the fire gets too low, feed it pine cones instead of additional logs.

 

Also, explore a lot to find at least one gold rock to mine if not the quarry so you can make a science machine to make at LEAST a backpack, shovel,  logsuit and spear [and if lucky finding them early enough--spider glands rocks and ash for healing salve] BEFORE the hounds first wave by day 6-11.)

 

 

 Later, when you're more experienced, you can learn how to make a temporary base and hammer the science machine when done making some immediate items (or just leave it there as a "forward operating base.") Once you have a science machine, 9 rocks and 6 charcoal make a a crock pot and you; can REALLY make foods that will fill you all day, even basic ones. (even Meatballs will come close or even fill you for the lower-hunger characters.) There is nothing wrong with temporarily making a crock pot to eat better foods/keep foods from going stale and spoiling while you carry them and hammering it later, but knowing when and where to do this is something you learn after you learn to explore first. 

 

 

And (shockingly) if you learned to make a base near rabbits/Beefalo (if not in the same zone instead of near,) you can even skip the farms and learn to survive with multiple drying racks and crock pots only (with Bee Boxes and one birdcage recommended should you go non-growing.)

 

Players of Wolfgang will highly recommend this option, and I'll skip that explanation for them to show if they want to share that method (since I'm focusing on fundamentals with the occasional brief sideline option.) 

 

 

 

"What About Videos?"

 

I can't recommend watching any videos because (along with good tips) many broadcasters also show bad habits that could make playing really bad to impossible for new players.  However, if any other posters want to recommend good players who broadcast stuff (that doesn't encourage bad habits for new players to avoid that more veteran players just filter out,) that's cool. 

 

 

That looks enough to start. Come back after you've played about 20 hours more and let us know your progress. if you still have problems, then (as stated before,) details what you specifically do and we'll help. 

[Syd]

You might have been unlucky and got a world with no nearby grasslands, which is a biome that typically has plenty of food, flint, and other such resources to get you started. When you find one, spend a few days getting gathering resources there, then go off in search of other resources like rocks and beefalo. Don't worry about farming until you find a good spot to set up a permanent base. Just scavenge and hunt until then.

[Misaki]

I have yet to survive past day 3 on default. You cant farm because there are basically no seeds anywhere, and you run out of tools because flint is so insanely rare. One game I searched for 3 days straight (barely finding enough berries/carrots) and did not find a single piece of either. Even with maxing out the spawn rates for food items, I still lost on day 10 to starvation.

 

Farms really should produce seeds when you harvest them. There is no reason for this to not happen. We need to be able to replant. As for flint, my recommendation would be to make it so we could use up stones, say on a 5:1 basis to make our tools.

 

Because of the insane rarity of these resources, getting by in this game is complete luck. I have yet to see a single instance of strategy. I am dissappointed in this artificial difficulty. If you want to make a game hard, then make it legitimately a challenge, rather than just not giving the players the things they need to even have a chance.

1.You are not supposed to farm on the third day, you are supposed to be Nomad until you find nice spot.

2.No, it isn't, just don't waste your first flint and make a pickaxe, break down some rocks, and flint for days!

Also, you are not supposed to use flint later on, you are supposed to use gold.

3.You have got to be kidding me...

4.Build a birdcage and feed your first few carrots to bird.

5.There is a reason why you use flint for axe, because flint is sharp, rock isn't.

6.If this is artificial difficulty then play fallout and only use fists, it will be hard because you are not playing right, the same with Don't Starve.

7.YOU LITERALLY START ON THE BIOME WHICH HAS THE MOST FLINT, MODERATE ENOUGH TWIG, GRASS,  AND FOOD SPAWN!

 

 

Play default+ and turn the spider rate down to default, that should help a bit...

[ARamblingSpider]

1.You are not supposed to farm on the third day, you are supposed to be Nomad until you find nice spot.

2.No, it isn't, just don't waste your first flint and make a pickaxe, break down some rocks, and flint for days!

Also, you are not supposed to use flint later on, you are supposed to use gold.

3.You have got to be kidding me...

4.Build a birdcage and feed your first few carrots to bird.

5.There is a reason why you use flint for axe, because flint is sharp, rock isn't.

6.If this is artificial difficulty then play fallout and only use fists, it will be hard because you are not playing right, the same with Don't Starve.

7.YOU LITERALLY START ON THE BIOME WHICH HAS THE MOST FLINT, MODERATE ENOUGH TWIG, GRASS,  AND FOOD SPAWN!

 

 

Play default+ and turn the spider rate down to default, that should help a bit...

For once I agree with you.

[Maz]

I agree it can sometimes be annoying, but I can usually at least find 2 before I have to run to find gold.

[Boar Head]

I've personally never had this issue. Yes sometimes it will take me a bit longer than I would like to find flint but never late enough for me to be screwed. As for food, just go into a greenlands area and grab all the berry bushes and carrots you see. I find it kind of funny that you would come here saying the game is unplayable at this stage in the game's life cycle. The game is totally playable. All you need is a slight bit of luck and to know what you're doing. I can tell you that the majority of your problems are coming from you not knowing what you're doing. For one, farms aren't something you should be trying to get on day 3. That's for later once you have set up your home and gotten at the very least one of the machines.

[JeMiChi]

RUN!!!!

You can do it! Just run for your life..!

 

Even if you are unlucky with your starting spot, you can find enough resources to survive to the next day if you move fast and explore the map. Keep running and picking up everything you need until you find a good place to build your camp.

Preferably with something to use against angry monsters that will come for you sooner or later, and something to eat when winter arrives.. You'll figure out what works best for you by trying and failing many times. It can be frustrating, but you'll learn from your mistakes.

 

Don't give up. The game I'm playing at the moment started out with no luck, but after I explored the whole map and learned where to find this and where to find that, I'd call it easy to survive. ^w^

 

You can do it too! So, keep running!!!

[Watcha]

Pig "city" with berries/carrot set piece thing + near spider nest + crock pot = Food for days!

[Will]

I don't think he is ever going to respond or read this. Ever. I think he just wanted to say the game was bad and leave. 

[DwerBomb]

the game can be played perfectly fine with the way it is now

 

you just suck at it.

FTFY

[hotflungwok]

I don't understand how he can be totally new at the game and yet still know about farming.

[the truthseeker]

I don't understand how he can be totally new at the game and yet still know about farming.

I bet he made a science machine and a farm and thought that's how you start. 

 

FTFY

 

 

(And please try and behave Dwerbomb, I didn't want my earlier reply on flaming users to be so literal on this very thread so soon.) 

[DeadpanQuinkan]

I usually just spend a lot of days just looking for that perfect spot to set up my base (science machine/fire pit).  The name of early game is "Location Location Location!"  I end up making crock pots before farm plots anyway.

[Bonemiser]

Some of these responses are cruel, albeit not without basis. The resources are there; you just need to learn how to prioritize them. Aiming for a farm before your first winter seems entirely nonsensical to me if you're struggling to grasp the essentials.

 

Grass and Twigs will be mainstay from the cradle to the grave. There's a whole biome dedicated to grass, and for good reason. From fuel, to torches, to beds, to clothes... suffice to say, amass some grass.

 

Berries will help you during your nomadic phase, but the real renewable food source you want is Rabbit Morsels. Both are useful for Meatballs (easy, reliable food source) but Morsels retain usefulness after your first winter, whereas berries lose some value once you're stable.

 

Naturally flint and logs are a concern, but if you're lacking in the above three things (Grass, Twigs, Morsels) then you'll never get your feet off the ground. Fortunately for you, the only thing you need to gather these things are ten fingers on two hands. Use the grass and twigs to make traps, and use the traps to farm morsels while you're out and about.

 

 

There are better strategies, but this one is the simplest. If you want a more thorough guide, ask for one. I'm sure J20 would be glad to shove his in your face multiple times and without remorse if he were as ubiquitous here as he is on the Steam forums.

 

Beyond that, the wiki is your friend. You'd be wise to thumb through it and count up the amount of basic resources you'll need for your Day 20 base. Excluding daily consumption, you shouldn't need more than 120 Grass, 80 Rocks, 80 Logs, 40 Twigs, 40 Manure, 30 Charcoal, 10 Gold Nuggets and as many flowers as you chance upon (for Rot). A Fire Pit, a Science Machine, an Alchemy Engine, a handful of chests and a few Crock Pots will more than suffice. Drying Racks a plus.

 

Good luck. This game isn't particularly cruel once you know what to look for.