Evicting Pearl is really problematic change this please Klei

[Ruperstiltskin]

First off: i really hate getting political in a fun game, but this is getting too close to reality.

This whole situation hit too close home for me to be honest, so i might be getting really personal with it, but i really find it the whole situation with having pearl move just because wagstaff wanna use her home for a experiment seems really f up at minimum. Its a game sure, but it stills exists in a world where some problems might reflect on it, its not a vacuum chamber.

I hope i dont have to explain why harashement to and old lady, which we spend time improving her home, just to make another use of the land is problematic, kicking her for logistic or sciencie profit seems so wrong, i dont care its a game. This only fly as if its ok to harash people out of where they live cause you know better than them to do something in their home, normalizing this behaviour feels really dangerous and this timei wanna speak against it.

Hope Klei revisit this as soon as possible, theres no need to make pearls island the center of the experiment, theres plenty of ocean to fill.

Even if this post get locked i hope at least my sentiment gets across to you klei, i really love this game.

[WhackE]

Wagstaff is evil, that's the point

[BalkanCockroach]

I remember someone suggesting a while back that we should be able to kill Pearl and no one batting an eye. Good times.

[gaymime]

dude, three things; first you can choose to NOT side with the evil dude who has made no bones about killing people to get what he wants with no remorse. second; he is literally an evil dude who is monstrous and want to aid and abet you doing evil junk  >_> it seems super weird and ugly to try and make yourself seem like -not- a bad person for siding with evil to get power and loot. thirdly; you seriously do NOT and i mean NOT have to evict pearl. you have the final say in this. you get to choose to not continue down this particular path.

[Creatorofswamps]

I know it's sad, but Constant is a world where in many ways the rule is "hit and run" - kill or be killed (yes, not always, but anyway) This act from Wagstaff is the disclosure of him as a character, we know that he is ready to sacrifice someone else's life for the sake of profit and curiosity. He could have done something even worse with the pearls (although this does not justify him a bit) the only thing I would change is that the pearls could live on the mainland and not with monkeys. For example, in the swamp (which showed that Wagstaff does not care about the comfort pearls)

Edited May 23, 2025 by Creatorofswamps

[Jakepeng99]

An argument against it being “too similar to real life” is not a good argument

[Cassielu]

39 minutes ago, Creatorofswamps said:

I know it's sad, but Constant is a world where in many ways the rule is "hit and run" - kill or be killed (yes, not always, but anyway) This act from Wagstaff is the disclosure of him as a character, we know that he is ready to sacrifice someone else's life for the sake of profit and curiosity. He could have done something even worse with the pearls (although this does not justify him a bit) the only thing I would change is that the pearls could live on the mainland and not with monkeys. For example, in the swamp (which showed that Wagstaff does not care about the comfort pearls)

Wagstaff is indeed such a person, but there are no any resources on pearl's island that are conducive to his experiments. This turned Wagstaff's act of drive away Pearl into a purely random malicious, rather than being driven by self-interest and curiosity, which is also contrary to Wagstaff's character.

[BalkanCockroach]

2 minutes ago, Cassielu said:

Wagstaff is indeed such a person, but there are no any resources on pearl's island that are conducive to his experiments. This turned Wagstaff's act of drive away Pearl into a purely random malicious, rather than being driven by self-interest and curiosity, which is also contrary to Wagstaff's character.

Well, none of us are experts in Lunar magic so we don't know if there's something he needs specific to Pearls island. Someone said it's the clogged up prime lunar energy but it's purely up to interpretation.

[AuRuS]

what in the twitter is that thread lol

brother if a fictional character's fate in a not even realistic video game bothers you so much I think that it requires further investigation by a specialist
if you really hate this option so much I guess you can just not "evict" her, by simply not helping wagstaff, even though when she moves to moonquay island she says somthing along the lines of "at last I won't be bothered by this science guy" so I would say that this is a win in her book

Edited May 23, 2025 by AuRuS

[cybers2001]

This is what happens when a random player complains one time about in-game content being familiar with something in real life and guilts Klei to changing it.  
  
You get posts like these.

Edited May 23, 2025 by cybers2001

[AuRuS]

2 minutes ago, cybers2001 said:

This is what happens when a random player complains one time about in-game content being familiar with something in real life and guilts Klei to changing it.  
  
You get posts like these.

Can’t wait for them to disable demolishing pig houses and digging up rabbit holes since it’s pretty much the same thing 

[shaurun]

I love how emotional it goes. 

Why do you think monkeys will harass Pearl at the first place, maybe it's a paradise for her?

You can also build much better basement for her in monkey island as a reward!

Edited May 23, 2025 by shaurun

[BalkanCockroach]

2 minutes ago, AuRuS said:

Can’t wait for them to disable demolishing pig houses and digging up rabbit holes since it’s pretty much the same thing 

It's worse actually, they are left homeless and afraid unlike  Pearl.

Edited May 23, 2025 by BalkanCockroach

[Capybara007]

i dont know why i made this

[Dingle]

I am in a similar situation in real life, but seeing this in a game is only cathartic to me. I guess its a matter of perspective.

A tech company is taking my house and forcing me to move onto a small island. Also I am a crab person

2 hours ago, BalkanCockroach said:

I remember someone suggesting a while back that we should be able to kill Pearl and no one batting an eye. Good times.

That was me. But to be fair, I just wanted more options for the Pearl questline.

I also suggested that the player should alternatively be able to court and then marry Pearl. Then divorce her, for 50% of her bottles.

[Keller Max]

2 hours ago, gaymime said:

dude, three things; first you can choose to NOT side with the evil dude who has made no bones about killing people to get what he wants with no remorse. second; he is literally an evil dude who is monstrous and want to aid and abet you doing evil junk  >_> it seems super weird and ugly to try and make yourself seem like -not- a bad person for siding with evil to get power and loot. thirdly; you seriously do NOT and i mean NOT have to evict pearl. you have the final say in this. you get to choose to not continue down this particular path.

But... I want to play the game bruh... I want to see how this lunar **** ends.

[Edible Coal]

people here dont read novel or played emotional games before lol, i dont see any issue with feeling bad for a video game character consider you are suppose to put down the suspension of disbelieve when playing games

[BalkanCockroach]

1 minute ago, Edible Coal said:

people here dont read novel or played emotional games before lol, i dont see any issue with feeling bad for a video game character consider you are suppose to put down the suspension of disbelieve when playing games

 OP is saying Klei should change the beta because people lose their homes irl. No one is saying be apathetic to Pearl we are saying this is a game, a realm of fantasy where you get gems by killing dogs.

This is like: Klei, please remove hounds. I don't want to kill dogs to make staves, it makes me sad. 

[HeatAndRun]

3 hours ago, Creatorofswamps said:

"hit and run"

I agree with you without considering whatever the rest of the context is

[reddocc]

nah man this is peak wagstaff behavior, using his other failed experiment just to take advantage of pearl and keep making experiments

[Mr Giggio]

 

5 hours ago, Ruperstiltskin said:

First off: i really hate getting political in a fun game, but this is getting too close to reality.

This whole situation hit too close home for me to be honest, so i might be getting really personal with it, but i really find it the whole situation with having pearl move just because wagstaff wanna use her home for a experiment seems really f up at minimum. Its a game sure, but it stills exists in a world where some problems might reflect on it, its not a vacuum chamber.

I hope i dont have to explain why harashement to and old lady, which we spend time improving her home, just to make another use of the land is problematic, kicking her for logistic or sciencie profit seems so wrong, i dont care its a game. This only fly as if its ok to harash people out of where they live cause you know better than them to do something in their home, normalizing this behaviour feels really dangerous and this timei wanna speak against it.

Hope Klei revisit this as soon as possible, theres no need to make pearls island the center of the experiment, theres plenty of ocean to fill.

Even if this post get locked i hope at least my sentiment gets across to you klei, i really love this game.

Cant believe you are really going there trying to force a narrative about your reality in a game that has nothing to do it with dude

like :X what characters do doesnt have to fulfill your perspective, boundaries or anything

[GenomeSquirrel]

It's weird that knowing Pearl is an immortal NPC, the idea that Wagstaff would be moving her away from danger doesn't even come to mind.

I'm a lot more concerned with us feeding monster meat to pigs, who are actually being thankful, friendly and giving a sanity aura, right until we give them that 4th peice and kill them.

Reminder that Pearl doesn't have a sanity aura, remember that when you try to give her free fish and she tells you your fish are too small ... 

 

 

 

 

[Dr. Safety]

Maybe Wagstaff talked to Crab King and found out that Pearl lost all their gems to the JIMBO machine, and forced him out of the house, while she sat at home comparing fish sizes.

Maybe the Moon Quay island is the Constant's version of a retirement home, giving the elderly magical trinkets that grant them youthful agility (primate side effects may occur)

Maybe all of Pearl's crabby family were all turned into monkeys long long ago and Wagstaff so graciously reunited them all again.

We don't know the full story 

Edit: jokes aside, I think it's fine for bad things to happen to good people in games, since it isn't involving real people. If you or someone you know is going through something similar, I'm very sorry to hear that, and I hope things get better for whoever is involved. 

Playing this game, no one is without imaginary cruelty. Think of all what we the players are willing to do for a Krampus sack

Edited May 23, 2025 by Dr. Safety

[Mysterious box]

3 hours ago, Keller Max said:

But... I want to play the game bruh... I want to see how this lunar **** ends.

Spoiler

Sorry I had to...

[reddocc]

-krampus spawn after evicting pearl from her island

 

Edited May 23, 2025 by Pedro cc