Evicting Pearl is really problematic change this please Klei

[lowercase skye]

8 hours ago, cybers2001 said:

This is what happens when a random player complains one time about in-game content being familiar with something in real life and guilts Klei to changing it.  
  
You get posts like these.

what are you even talking about

[GimplyGoose]

I haven't had the opportunity to play the beta yet, but from what I can gather from reading forum posts is that to progress the game, you relocate pearl to moon quay and afterwards use Pearl's island as the boss arena for a new boss.

My question that I'm hoping someone can fill me in on is how much destruction does the new boss cause? Do docks get destroyed? Are structures or planted objects removed? Like what are the effects on Pearl's island?

[Radicaljoe]

1 minute ago, GimplyGoose said:

I haven't had the opportunity to play the beta yet, but from what I can gather from reading forum posts is that to progress the game, you relocate pearl to moon quay and afterwards use Pearl's island as the boss arena for a new boss.

My question that I'm hoping someone can fill me in on is how much destruction does the new boss cause? Do docks get destroyed? Are structures or planted objects removed? Like what are the effects on Pearl's island?

it has explosive drones and a giant laser attack, it's fair to say very destructive. 

Also cc phase 1 shows up on the island as well, so that's also a little destructive.

I think the beyblade drones also will break stuff? I know they chop down trees

[PonyOfApocalips]

Wagstaff litterally scamed old people when he was young- he is that kind od jerk 

[Johnny_Waffles]

Let Wagstaff don't starve evict her, just let there be another optional mini ark of her either taking back the island or getting a new, better island.

Edited May 23, 2025 by Johnny_Waffles

[PonyOfApocalips]

but seriously. I think that the expulsion from the island itself, although cruel, is an important plot element that shows what a piece of trash Wagstaff is. I would like it to stay, so that this element of Wagstaff's character remains in the game. On the other hand, I would like Pearl to be able to find a real home after we exile her. So maybe just let the player create an item that would raise an island from the bottom of the sea at the edge of the world? Of course, a one-time use with the note "Are u sure?".

[abrocator]

Helping Pearl build a home and all her chores then later annexing the island and land reclaiming it for an experiment is weird and gross.

(Caveat: It could be that in a big plot twist we (the character) have a secret plan for the wellbeing of Pearl and that she ends up being better off wherever she ends up, Moonquay or otherwise. But it would have to be intentional by us (the player). Not just something that falls out of doing what Wagstaff says without any qualms.)

I don’t even care much about Pearl. But many on this forum do. But now OP is wrong for caring about the NPC and the lore? Why?

Yes, it does actually make a huge difference whether something is part of the plot or it is part of your own sandbox gameplay. I could exterminate all exterminatable species except pigs and relocate them to a meat farm. It would be totally different if that was the goal of the game (as in the plot). It just is.

And yes for that matter: that you help Pearl in order to kill her husband and then rub her face with it was already weird.

But imagine, on top of that, if you helped Pearl build her home and all that. Then you turned to Pearl and said, “Looks like your rent just went up.” What the hell?

“But Pearl is relieved that she doesn’t have to deal with Wagstaff any more”

Person who got evicted is relieved that she is free of evicter. That’s not an argument for anything.

[cybers2001]

19 hours ago, lowercase skye said:

what are you even talking about

You haven't been around the forums much the past few years? Probably for the best, tbh.

Edited May 24, 2025 by cybers2001

[Radicaljoe]

8 hours ago, abrocator said:

yes for that matter: that you help Pearl in order to kill her husband and then rub her face with it was already weird.

So the thing is, you don't actually kill crabking. When you land the final hit you see a very round and chunky crab fall into the water while the castle crumbles. He doesn't die, he just gets his castle broken and escapes into the water.

And we don't take back the broken pearl as a sign of "we beat him up" it's to explain to Pearl that CK broke the pearl. Which I think is basically the same as like a wedding ring, so we're explaining to Pearl that CK divorced her.

[Hollow soul 3]

On 5/23/2025 at 8:15 AM, gaymime said:

dude, three things; first you can choose to NOT side with the evil dude who has made no bones about killing people to get what he wants with no remorse. second; he is literally an evil dude who is monstrous and want to aid and abet you doing evil junk  >_> it seems super weird and ugly to try and make yourself seem like -not- a bad person for siding with evil to get power and loot. thirdly; you seriously do NOT and i mean NOT have to evict pearl. you have the final say in this. you get to choose to not continue down this particular path.

 eh, it's currently the only way to progress the game beyond a point. Don't get me wrong, I would house her next to d fly if it meant a new boss fight. A lot of players like her, and the monkeys are kind of a pain so I get it. Maybe a additional quest to rehome her again, or a way to make the monkeys chill out for better neighbors. Honestly would love that island fleshed out a bit more.

[gaymime]

19 minutes ago, Hollow soul 3 said:

 eh, it's currently the only way to progress the game beyond a point. Don't get me wrong, I would house her next to d fly if it meant a new boss fight. A lot of players like her, and the monkeys are kind of a pain so I get it. Maybe a additional quest to rehome her again, or a way to make the monkeys chill out for better neighbors. Honestly would love that island fleshed out a bit more.

which is totally fair and valid too

[_zwb]

On 5/23/2025 at 1:15 PM, gaymime said:

thirdly; you seriously do NOT and i mean NOT have to evict pearl. you have the final say in this. you get to choose to not continue down this particular path.

something something you can turn it off

[cybers2001]

Seeing it in action, I think it’s fine, BUT…  I think Klei can do better to sell this idea. I like the theme of Pearl being a hermet crab that “needs a bigger shell.” Maybe she overstayed on the island hoping her lost love would return, and giving her the cracked pearl makes her decide to move on, which includes leaving the island (she only stayed for him, after all). The monkey island seems like an odd choice. She has no rapport with the monkeys, so why would she want to be around them? If monkey island got upgraded into a nice beachside retirement town, then I could see it, otherwise give her a new, larger island with a proportionally larger shell house.

[Chewabacca]

48 minutes ago, cybers2001 said:

Seeing it in action, I think it’s fine, BUT…  I think Klei can do better to sell this idea. I like the theme of Pearl being a hermet crab that “needs a bigger shell.” Maybe she overstayed on the island hoping her lost love would return, and giving her the cracked pearl makes her decide to move on, which includes leaving the island (she only stayed for him, after all). The monkey island seems like an odd choice. She has no rapport with the monkeys, so why would she want to be around them? If monkey island got upgraded into a nice beachside retirement town, then I could see it, otherwise give her a new, larger island with a proportionally larger shell house.

This would be a lot better than what we have currently. It would give a nice sense of closure to that arc, however bittersweet, and would let Pearl move out on her own terms instead of bowing to Wagstaff for some reason.

[DegenerateFurry]

I really have no idea what Klei was thinking with this one.

Hmm, yes, let's take the loveable cranky old lady we have the player spend a bunch of time doing nice things for and have them evict her and send her to what's essentially a high-crime neighborhood full of pirate monkeys so we can turn an existing island tons of players like to base on into a boss arena.

And also, the monkeys will steal the things she gives you due to how she gives them to you, and her bees will fight with them.

Oh, and you'll be constantly getting robbed unless you rig up the island to exploit monkey pathfinding with bait pens, and even sailing there has a higher chance of a pirate raid, so you're never going to visit Pearl again unless it's a total necessity.

Seriously? Did they accidentally chug ten gallons of Pearl Hating Juice or something?

Just take your mechanics for making the ice island appear and apply it to a scrap raft that Wagstaff makes, and have it appear somewhere in the ocean. Let us find it with an Astral Detector or have Wagstaff mark it on our map. This is the boss arena island. Bam, infinitely better solution and I thought of it in two seconds.

Edited May 25, 2025 by DegenerateFurry

[ForbiddenHat]

I hate pearl's quests so I think this is okay.

[Bumber64]

Wagstaff sold Pearl a reverse mortgage.

[Antynomity]

I don't really care but it is funny seeing people get so upset at this post while not even mentioning the issue OP is talking about. To be frank, the idea itself of basically destroying pearl's island, moving her to moon quay just to have yet another boss is a baffling decision. Glad I'm not nearly as invested in this game as I used to be.

[hhh2]

OP, you should make this a poll.  If it only offends you, it doesn't make sense for Klei to return to the drawing board. 

10 hours ago, Antynomity said:

To be frank, the idea itself of basically destroying pearl's island, moving her to moon quay just to have yet another boss is a baffling decision

They didn't need to make a dedicated area for the boss fight.  Those drones that make an electric fence should allow any area to fulfill role as an arena.  But if it did need to be a dedicated area, this highlights how cluttered the RoG map has become that some select content is being turfed-out.

@Keller Max Guess what this reminds me of...

[RexySeven]

On 5/25/2025 at 5:14 AM, DegenerateFurry said:

Hmm, yes, let's take the loveable cranky old lady we have the player spend a bunch of time doing nice things for and have them evict her and send her to what's essentially a high-crime neighborhood full of pirate monkeys so we can turn an existing island tons of players like to base on into a boss arena.

It'd be really really funny if Pearl re-educates monkeys into being friendly to the player.