NPCMaxwell Posted December 13, 2024 Share Posted December 13, 2024 1 hour ago, Anthony_L3hr said: This is so unique, amazing. I didn't expect to ever look at an THIS perfect cosmetic thing in this game that would immediately appeal to me! (for a second I wish I was a Wendy player just for this skilltree ouia board design) 6 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/162325-game-update-646898/page/3/#findComment-1775060 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxil20 Posted December 13, 2024 Share Posted December 13, 2024 3 minutes ago, JesseB_Klei said: It has not been modified for this hotfix it is under consideration for a future one. I do think it would be pretty neat to have the knapsack be usable and have the “swiping” action as other characters, especially since AOE pickup is quite nice and Wortox would still have the niche of using it as a unique/efficient weapon for himself in particular. I hope it can be considered! 1 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/162325-game-update-646898/page/3/#findComment-1775061 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Echsrick Posted December 13, 2024 Share Posted December 13, 2024 1 hour ago, kehun said: Uh i don't really understand what it means. Can someone explain? if anything is to go by is my suggestion of the locks not needing 5 points but instead 3 points and/or that neutral skills can work for the locks aswell to make it bit more freedom of your skill tree build 1 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/162325-game-update-646898/page/3/#findComment-1775070 Share on other sites More sharing options...
YuRinshue Posted December 13, 2024 Share Posted December 13, 2024 Thank you for letting us know that the production team is willing to work hard to satisfy everyone. I believe that every player has a positive and appreciative view of the understanding and efforts he can see. Test suits should indeed be born for feedback, but more people hope that what they see will not require full feedback. You know, what needs full feedback is uncomfortable for both designers and players. Therefore, I hope that the production team can work harder and strive for the future test suits to get a good response from both sides. Many existing notices of changes are pleasing to the players with positive feedback, and at the same time, many parts still have potential for development. Therefore, we sincerely hope that the production team can still pay attention to and respond positively in the positive feedback afterwards. Of course, all this is another story for the time being, at least after everyone enjoys the holiday they deserve. In a word, I wish everyone, whether the producer or the player, who keeps working hard for the game we all love, can have a comfortable and happy holiday. Thank you for your efforts ; ) <3 感谢您让我们了解到,制作团队愿意朝着让每个人都满意的方向努力。对于看得到的理解与努力,我相信每个玩家绝对都是抱有积极与赞美的看法的。 测试服的确应该为反馈而生,只是更多人希望他们看见的内容不至于必须需要全盘反馈,要知道,无论是对于设计者还是玩家,需要全盘反馈的内容都是让人难受的。所以为此,希望制作团队能再加把劲,争取让以后的测试服让双方的期望都得到良好的回应。 现有的很多改动的通知,都是让积极反馈的玩家们感到讨喜的,同时,也有很多部分仍然还有开发的潜力。 所以,我们诚挚的希望在之后的积极反馈中,制作团队仍然能积极的关注和回应。 当然,这些暂时都是后话了,最起码在大家享受完应得的假期之后。 总而言之,许愿每一名为我们都共同热爱的游戏而不断努力人,无论是制作者还是玩家,都能有一个舒心愉快的假期。 感谢你们的付出 ;) <3 1 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/162325-game-update-646898/page/3/#findComment-1775076 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coski25 Posted December 13, 2024 Share Posted December 13, 2024 Great changes to Wendy it’s looking really good thanks for the changes. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/162325-game-update-646898/page/3/#findComment-1775078 Share on other sites More sharing options...
HowlVoid Posted December 13, 2024 Share Posted December 13, 2024 1 hour ago, xhyom said: What else is there to complain about Wendy? They'll find something She got a player's defense... And I don't see less health to compensate.... Jesus christ 4 1 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/162325-game-update-646898/page/3/#findComment-1775079 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mysterious box Posted December 13, 2024 Share Posted December 13, 2024 I just hope the shockscrap rounds and the lunar rounds get another look before they fully move on to other stuff as there's no reason to use either and after going through so much to make sure Wendy's skills all offer some benefit it would be a shame to drop the ball on these with Walter... 8 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/162325-game-update-646898/page/3/#findComment-1775081 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColdHeaven Posted December 13, 2024 Share Posted December 13, 2024 (edited) Let's give the wendy players this win guys. Don't have to be so upset it's not a pvp game. Not much will change really except for the influx of wolfgang mains switching to wendy Edited December 13, 2024 by ColdHeaven 1 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/162325-game-update-646898/page/3/#findComment-1775089 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xplan Posted December 13, 2024 Share Posted December 13, 2024 Just now, ColdHeaven said: Let's give the wendy players this win guys. Don't have to be so upset it's not a pvp game. Not much will change really except for the influx of wolfgang mains switching to wendy i will mark your word Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/162325-game-update-646898/page/3/#findComment-1775093 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Electroely Posted December 13, 2024 Share Posted December 13, 2024 2 hours ago, Jason said: Knabsack being an alternative to a Bug Net has potential. This would be cool, but I hope it doesn't take away from the potential of a late-game Bug Net upgrade in the future. It's been sorely needed and the need for it only grows with each update. Especially this one, because I think I would really like Wendy's final Shadow Affinity skill if I didn't have to make so many bug nets to take advantage of it. 2 1 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/162325-game-update-646898/page/3/#findComment-1775099 Share on other sites More sharing options...
gaymime Posted December 13, 2024 Share Posted December 13, 2024 14 minutes ago, Electroely said: This would be cool, but I hope it doesn't take away from the potential of a late-game Bug Net upgrade in the future. It's been sorely needed and the need for it only grows with each update. Especially this one, because I think I would really like Wendy's final Shadow Affinity skill if I didn't have to make so many bug nets to take advantage of it. if knabsack is exclusive to wortox then it cant really negate a potential bugnet simply because it is off-limits to everyone else. it would be more like wx's illumination circuit 2 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/162325-game-update-646898/page/3/#findComment-1775114 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anis5240 Posted December 13, 2024 Share Posted December 13, 2024 2 hours ago, Jason said: Knabsack being an alternative to a Bug Net has potential. Wow. Real damn fantastic. All my talk about game should have a better bug net has finally happened.... EXCEPT FOR THE FACT IT'S CHARACTER EXCLUSIVE. That's it, I'm out. 1 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/162325-game-update-646898/page/3/#findComment-1775117 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pig Princess Posted December 13, 2024 Share Posted December 13, 2024 (edited) 2 hours ago, Jason said: Controller functionality from consoles is being transferred to PC. Does that mean that PC players would be forced to use inferior version of controls, i. e. be unable to select freely where to teleport? Or did you mean the vice versa, i. e. it's controllers that are brought closer to acceptable level of functionality when it comes to Wortox? Edited December 13, 2024 by Pig Princess Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/162325-game-update-646898/page/3/#findComment-1775137 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Developer JesseB_Klei Posted December 13, 2024 Developer Share Posted December 13, 2024 8 minutes ago, Pig Princess said: Does that mean that PC players would be forced to use inferior version of controls, i. e. be unable to select freely where to teleport? Or did you mean the vice versa, i. e. it's controllers that are brought closer to acceptable level of functionality when it comes to Wortox? Consoles have changes for controllers that are needing to come to PC and then work can start on looking to improve aiming with a controller for all platforms. 14 4 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/162325-game-update-646898/page/3/#findComment-1775143 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pig Princess Posted December 13, 2024 Share Posted December 13, 2024 (edited) 3 hours ago, Jason said: Blessed Sisturn 3 and 4 collapsed into just one skill that has changed. It no longer buffs Abigail’s health past maximum over time. Now if you fill it with Lune Tree Blossoms, Abigail is treated as a player for damage from bosses. Could previous version (overheal with petals, without ability to recover overhealed HP) be brough back as separate skill and branch from sisturn II? I actually liked the need to weave time for overheal into regular shedule (like when I was cooking and crafting stuff in early game, or doing tasks away from base that didn't require Abigail), as well as 2x effective HP against non-bosses such as grumble bees and clockworks for ruins. It was also nice to do first Bee Queen without elixirs (and not rely on pipspook rng), and new version of the skill essentially reduced Abigail's HP for grumble bees back to the level without skill. It's grumble bees that reduce Abigail's health in this boss fight, Bee Queen herself doesn't land a single hit on her provided Wendy is in range. Could regular petals in sisturn and corresponding skill give previous version of the health buff (more suitable for early game and against boss minions) while skill with lunar blossoms give the buff in current version? Edit: actually now I'm not sure if grumble bees have the same damage for players and to mobs. Wiki says so (I can't test because I'm away from my PC now), but somehow I don't trust it. I just want previous version be available, and there is not much skills to spend insight points anyway, as quite a few skills were merged. Edited December 13, 2024 by Pig Princess Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/162325-game-update-646898/page/3/#findComment-1775154 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frosty_Mentos Posted December 13, 2024 Share Posted December 13, 2024 1 hour ago, JesseB_Klei said: It has not been modified for this hotfix it is under consideration for a future one. Personally I'd enjoy seeing actual bug net tier 2 upgrade but sure I guess this works too. 1 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/162325-game-update-646898/page/3/#findComment-1775159 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fengfan Hertz Posted December 13, 2024 Share Posted December 13, 2024 Perhaps the Dark Petals can also be placed in the urn. Can the flower be placed in the urn permanently (of course, the bonus would be reduced accordingly. Maybe this could improve the comfort of the gameplay)? Maybe the transformation method of Lunar Abigail could be through the Star Caller's Staff and the Moon Caller's Staff to increase its freedom? 1 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/162325-game-update-646898/page/3/#findComment-1775178 Share on other sites More sharing options...
HowlVoid Posted December 13, 2024 Share Posted December 13, 2024 Maybe a developer could answer me What is the point of Gestalt abigail? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/162325-game-update-646898/page/3/#findComment-1775186 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evelo Posted December 13, 2024 Share Posted December 13, 2024 4 hours ago, Jason said: Now if you fill it with Lune Tree Blossoms, Abigail is treated as a player for damage from bosses. Oh hey, my idea of adding Lune Tree Blossoms worked. Cool thanks Klei, that makes me feel like a special Lunar Flower. Just like mom. Love you mama Alter <3 2 1 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/162325-game-update-646898/page/3/#findComment-1775200 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverSpoon Posted December 13, 2024 Share Posted December 13, 2024 (edited) 6 hours ago, Jason said: Now if you fill it with Lune Tree Blossoms, Abigail is treated as a player for damage from bosses. Oh, Klei, I'm glad you already knew that "just wait" is not good game design. I was getting lose faith in this theory. As a full-time game engineer and amateur game designer, I think you are a First-class game studio. For anyone else who wondered, the growth boost from Sisturn Abigail still occurs after filling Sisturn with Lune Tree Blossoms. Edit: For anyone else who wondered, buffed Gestabby this update does 100 damage during the day, 150 damage at dusk, and 250 damage at night. Edited December 13, 2024 by SilverSpoon 1 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/162325-game-update-646898/page/3/#findComment-1775238 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarsLombax Posted December 13, 2024 Share Posted December 13, 2024 I would like to see the Knapsack improved as a tool. Let the collection radius be higher and the player himself choose the place he would like to clean. This would make Vortox unique and he would become a master thief. 3 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/162325-game-update-646898/page/3/#findComment-1775282 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thieverpedia Posted December 13, 2024 Share Posted December 13, 2024 Huh...I kind of like the idea that the Sisturn is getting some love with the addition of adding Lune Blossoms to treat damage done towards Abigail as base player damage taken, but I feel like Lune Blossoms could do more than that, with Abigail instead having that trait to begin with. The biggest issue with her has always been that bosses tear her health apart. If anything, Abigail could have player damage taken from the start, and having Lune Blossoms offering some damage & planar resistance. Anything would be fine, really. Something that allows the player to choose between the Floral Shroud for more Abigail defense, the Sisturn for Wendy defense, or both for maximum Abigail survival. Just my two cents, really. Wendy is one of my secondary mains. 5 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/162325-game-update-646898/page/3/#findComment-1775292 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nikki Darks Posted December 13, 2024 Share Posted December 13, 2024 Honestly, I kinda wanna see Klei go all out of different flowers being put into the sisturn for different effects? Like cactus flowers and evil petals! To add onto that, maybe the cactus flowers could give her bonus damage to bosses and evil flowers give her a single full HP revive with a cooldown? 2 3 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/162325-game-update-646898/page/3/#findComment-1775408 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quikin Posted December 13, 2024 Share Posted December 13, 2024 Pliss klei fix Walter plisssss,the other character skilltrees are already good and finished, plisss fix :CCCC, i want to camp i want to camp so bad!!!!! Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/162325-game-update-646898/page/3/#findComment-1775418 Share on other sites More sharing options...
asdsaax Posted December 13, 2024 Share Posted December 13, 2024 12 hours ago, Jason said: Some missing VFX ... Boosted knabsack with aura with 50 dmg minimum? *-* Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/162325-game-update-646898/page/3/#findComment-1775438 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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