lenship2 Posted November 28, 2023 Share Posted November 28, 2023 required body text Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/152649-should-an-official-healthbar-be-added/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blacula Posted November 28, 2023 Share Posted November 28, 2023 They should put boss health bars for sure Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/152649-should-an-official-healthbar-be-added/#findComment-1682061 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BalkanCockroach Posted November 28, 2023 Share Posted November 28, 2023 Options never hurt Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/152649-should-an-official-healthbar-be-added/#findComment-1682062 Share on other sites More sharing options...
_zwb Posted November 28, 2023 Share Posted November 28, 2023 They can just use visuals and effects as health bar like Crab King's castle crumbles as his health gets low, but at the same time it shouldn't be vague as nightmare werepig's health regen indicator(easily ignored quote) Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/152649-should-an-official-healthbar-be-added/#findComment-1682063 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yuuko Posted November 28, 2023 Share Posted November 28, 2023 I use health bars for training, but I turn them off when I'm actually playing. They are fun, and useful but for me part of the fun is not knowing exactly how much health there is left to go. I can certainly count hits if its super important but most of the time its not. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/152649-should-an-official-healthbar-be-added/#findComment-1682066 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain_Rage Posted November 28, 2023 Share Posted November 28, 2023 No, thanks. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/152649-should-an-official-healthbar-be-added/#findComment-1682074 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheggf Posted November 28, 2023 Share Posted November 28, 2023 If knowing enemy health is so important to your playstyle then count your hits. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/152649-should-an-official-healthbar-be-added/#findComment-1682075 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohan Posted November 28, 2023 Share Posted November 28, 2023 Questions like these r the perfect bait for crotchety veteran players. i see no reason not to add this as an option in some way. Im sure it would help newcomers to the game a ton. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/152649-should-an-official-healthbar-be-added/#findComment-1682077 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BalkanCockroach Posted November 28, 2023 Share Posted November 28, 2023 2 minutes ago, Ohan said: Questions like these r the perfect bait for crotchety veteran players. i see no reason not to add this as an option in some way. Im sure it would help newcomers to the game a ton. Nah, here have this very useful scrapbook instead. My inner completionist likes it tho. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/152649-should-an-official-healthbar-be-added/#findComment-1682080 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frosty_Mentos Posted November 28, 2023 Share Posted November 28, 2023 Either healthbar or PROPER visual implications that the bosses look actually quite damaged, kinda like how crab king loses his chips. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/152649-should-an-official-healthbar-be-added/#findComment-1682081 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustAFlower Posted November 28, 2023 Share Posted November 28, 2023 Do you know why I hate monsters with health bars showing up ? Because this is the best way for the player at the end of the fight to go fully HAAAAYAAAAA without taking too much care of the damage and tanking like a masochist. That's an example at least, but I would like to get a hint when a boss regens. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/152649-should-an-official-healthbar-be-added/#findComment-1682088 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShadowDuelist Posted November 28, 2023 Share Posted November 28, 2023 Health bars on mobs actually lets you see them coming towards you in a tiny light or even complete darkness, its basically like cheating with one of those nightvision mods. On bosses I’d probably like having health bars. As it was mentioned above the game doesn’t give you much information on when the bosses are about to die, or regeneraring HP (unless you used a mod at some point or learned from the wiki/code). Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/152649-should-an-official-healthbar-be-added/#findComment-1682091 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BalkanCockroach Posted November 28, 2023 Share Posted November 28, 2023 2 minutes ago, ShadowDuelist said: Health bars on mobs actually lets you see them coming towards you in a tiny light or even complete darkness, its basically like cheating with one of those nightvision mods. On bosses I’d probably like having health bars. As it was mentioned above the game doesn’t give you much information on when the bosses are about to die, or regeneraring HP (unless you used a mod at some point or learned from the wiki/code). They can implement it so that it only appears when you hit mobs and disappears after a couple of seconds. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/152649-should-an-official-healthbar-be-added/#findComment-1682092 Share on other sites More sharing options...
dois raios Posted November 28, 2023 Share Posted November 28, 2023 24 minutes ago, JustAFlower said: Do you know why I hate monsters with health bars showing up ? Because this is the best way for the player at the end of the fight to go fully HAAAAYAAAAA without taking too much care of the damage and tanking like a masochist. This. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/152649-should-an-official-healthbar-be-added/#findComment-1682094 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheggf Posted November 28, 2023 Share Posted November 28, 2023 1 hour ago, Ohan said: Questions like these r the perfect bait for crotchety veteran players. i see no reason not to add this as an option in some way. Im sure it would help newcomers to the game a ton. I see no reason to add this. What is the point? To dumb the combat down even more than it already is with ugly bloat on your screen? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/152649-should-an-official-healthbar-be-added/#findComment-1682097 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valase Posted November 28, 2023 Share Posted November 28, 2023 Usually knowing how much health your enemy has left makes you overconfident, so instead of waiting for bearger to swipe, you just hit him again knowing that he will die. same thing for bosses that have health based effects (Dfly for when she goes to spawn her lavae, Klaus and his krampus, AF and the shield phase, Bee queen). Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/152649-should-an-official-healthbar-be-added/#findComment-1682117 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike23Ua Posted November 28, 2023 Share Posted November 28, 2023 Let me put it this way… A Shaved Beefalo looks more miserable and sad then a mob you’ve hit 500 times. So yeah I think DST either needs health bars, or updated mob visuals to show them physically taking damage and dying. Such as just one example: Dragonfly loosing all the scales on its body before being vulnerable enough for death. I actually turn OFF the health bars and stats for Zombies in games like Dead Island, makes the games feel a bit more realistic, but in THOSE games I can visibly see my hits doing damage by ripping into their flesh or I know it’s “Dead” Dead when it’s head goes Bye Bye.. But in a game like DST- you can’t tell the difference between a dragonfly you’ve hit once, and a dragonfly that’s 1 hit away from dying. And I think that’s just overall Bad for game design. Health Bars would also help players to know which mobs to dodge/kite, and whittle away at their hp, or which ones to just armor up and face tank. Borderlands 2 has BOTH health bars & visual representation of enemies taking damage, (such as skags bleeding and limping away to go call for backup) Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/152649-should-an-official-healthbar-be-added/#findComment-1682123 Share on other sites More sharing options...
arubaro Posted November 28, 2023 Share Posted November 28, 2023 better hints to show how damaged is a boss and to show if is healing health bars only breaks immersion and tells the player how safe they will be if they keep fighting instead of fleeing Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/152649-should-an-official-healthbar-be-added/#findComment-1682127 Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Variant Posted November 28, 2023 Share Posted November 28, 2023 I live off of minimalist huds. I love it when player information is integrated into the gameplay rather than numbers and bars on a screen. I'd much rather have less stuff on the screen as possible! I love when they're done seamlessly, like Ancient Guardian getting bloody when in stage two, and the screen turning red when your Beefalo is low on health. I'd rather it be communicated that enemies and bosses are on low health than just told. Show, don't tell. I had a small post about possibly adding a health bar to the WARBIS armor, a neat small buff to it and a fun way to make immersive health bars real. Otherwise, if the bar is just going to magically display the entities health, I'd much rather not, personally. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/152649-should-an-official-healthbar-be-added/#findComment-1682131 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baark0 Posted November 28, 2023 Share Posted November 28, 2023 3 hours ago, BalkanCockroach said: Options never hurt thats why healthbar mods exist Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/152649-should-an-official-healthbar-be-added/#findComment-1682132 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Masked Koopa Posted November 28, 2023 Share Posted November 28, 2023 4 hours ago, Cheggf said: If knowing enemy health is so important to your playstyle then count your hits. id rather have an HP bar Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/152649-should-an-official-healthbar-be-added/#findComment-1682135 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheggf Posted November 28, 2023 Share Posted November 28, 2023 26 minutes ago, Masked Koopa said: id rather have an HP bar here u go Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/152649-should-an-official-healthbar-be-added/#findComment-1682137 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Masked Koopa Posted November 28, 2023 Share Posted November 28, 2023 10 minutes ago, Cheggf said: here u go I think it would be cool if console players could also have an HP bar though Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/152649-should-an-official-healthbar-be-added/#findComment-1682138 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheggf Posted November 28, 2023 Share Posted November 28, 2023 7 minutes ago, Masked Koopa said: I think it would be cool if console players could also have an HP bar though If Klei added all 16k mods into the base game it'd be a hundred gigs and they'd never get anything good done. Console players knew what they were getting into when they bought the console. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/152649-should-an-official-healthbar-be-added/#findComment-1682143 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Masked Koopa Posted November 28, 2023 Share Posted November 28, 2023 Just now, Cheggf said: If Klei added all 16k mods into the base game it'd be a hundred gigs and they'd never get anything good done. Console players knew what they were getting into when they bought the console. I'm not asking klei to add all 16k mods to the base game Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/152649-should-an-official-healthbar-be-added/#findComment-1682144 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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