Preview for upcoming Wormwood skillset changes

[V2C]

Hey guys!  Just wanted to give you a preview of some things we are currently working on for Wormwood's skillset.  Most of the changes you can gather from this image, in addition to some pet sleeping behavior and thorns targeting fixes.  We had removed Petal Production during beta as it would have more gameplay implications than we intended to introduce, and we do not have plans to bring it back at this time.

We're heading off for the weekend now, and hope to have an update ready sometime next week!

[-Variant]

The vocal folk seemed a lot less constructive than I had hoped, but I am glad for these changes.

They seem nice.
EDIT: Very excited for Moonshroom growing! 

[Theukon-dos]

19 minutes ago, V2C said:

Petal Production during beta as it would have more gameplay implications than we intended to introduce

Shouldn't that be considered a good thing though? I'm someone who didn't like the petal production perk because I saw it as meaningless. I thought it was just a random perk of "hey, Wormwood has a flower on his head. Let's make him produce petals". But if it had uses that emerged naturally through gameplay that aren't immediately obvious, then that sounds like a fantastically designed perk with a lot of utility and potential. 

 

It's similar to why I liked Wolfgang's mighty perk boosting the damage of the Brightshade staff. It wasn't immediately obvious, but it was a natural, emergent interaction that came with the fact that a flat damage bonus is inherently stronger when given to a low base-damage weapon. And it also gave Wolfgang's somewhat boring skill tree a fun, unique thing that it could do. 

[Maxil20]

24 minutes ago, V2C said:

We had removed Petal Production during beta as it would have more gameplay implications than we intended to introduce, and we do not have plans to bring it back at this time.

Thank you for answering this! I myself was curious on the reason as to why it was removed, and I appreciate the reasoning! It's perfectly understandable.

[Dextops]

someone pinch me this must be a dream.

[mykenception]

Beautiful

Many thanks for the consideration Klei

[Anthony_L3hr]

Wormwood, my beloved. Your redemption arc begins soon.

[Hupo]

Who can tell me about the special usage of Petal Production? I only know about the poop and rot.

[Popian]

Could you look into having spawned Carrats ignore food items that their owner has dropped, and perhaps making the Lureplant recipe cheaper (something like 3 Compost, 3 Leafy Meat)?

[lakhnish]

18 minutes ago, -Variant said:

The vocal folk seemed a lot less constructive than I had hoped, but I am glad for these changes.

You say this, but if us vocal folk weren't loud, I don't believe this would have happened.

Thank you Klei for listening and most importantly communicating your plans in advance! More stuff like this can really ease these types of tensions!

[Kyno]

I didn't played the beta too much to know how Petal Production was doing, but what if was Dark Petals instead?

[-Variant]

1 minute ago, lakhnish said:

You say this, but if us vocal folk weren't loud, I don't believe this would have happened.

I will forever be for the community agreeing and peacefully loud, the changes are nice and I agreed with a lot of the folks asking for them.
Watching the Stream get almost thrown off course due to the immense spam of the same 3-4 questions over and over, was, however, uncomfortable. It looked more raid-y than it did peaceful and could've been handled better.

[Mysterious box]

1 minute ago, lakhnish said:

You say this, but if us vocal folk weren't loud, I don't believe this would have happened.

Thank you Klei for listening and most importantly communicating your plans in advance! More stuff like this can really ease these types of tensions!

True devs can't understand how we feel unless we're vocal after all they aren't mind readers.

7 minutes ago, Hupo said:

Who can tell me about the special usage of Petal Production? I only know about the poop and rot.

Werepig and beefalo food but really having a passively generating resource is a powerful thing even if it might not seem so.

[Captain_Rage]

Have a stellar weekend! :DD

[mykenception]

21 minutes ago, Hupo said:

Who can tell me about the special usage of Petal Production? I only know about the poop and rot.

you can make petals into poop when feeding pigs

let it rot for healing, you can also use the rot as fuel for firepit or flingomatics, well if you turned the petal to poop this would increase its efficiency 

make petal crafts (pretty parasol, garland, whirly fan, clean sweaper)

more things you can burn for ash

fill Wendy's sisturn with petals for sanity

endtables also works

have something you can feed to your beefalo which really helps during taming

 

[Mysterious box]

Just now, -Variant said:

I will forever be for the community agreeing and peacefully loud, the changes are nice and I agreed with a lot of the folks asking for them.
Watching the Stream get almost thrown off course due to the immense spam of the same 3-4 questions over and over, was, however, uncomfortable. It looked more raid-y than it did peaceful and could've been handled better.

Ouch I didn't watch the stream but if that's the case I can't support this they already said they'd give Wormwood another look so that sounds like bullying.

[lakhnish]

2 minutes ago, -Variant said:

Watching the Stream get almost thrown off course due to the immense spam of the same 3-4 questions over and over, was, however, uncomfortable. It looked more raid-y than it did peaceful and could've been handled better.

I disagree with this interpretation as to what happened on stream, but to each their own.

[Hupo]

4 minutes ago, Mysterious box said:

Werepig and beefalo food but really having a passively generating resource is a powerful thing even if it might not seem so.

 

4 minutes ago, mykenception said:

you can make petals into poop when feeding pigs

let it rot for healing, you can also use the rot as fuel for firepit or flingomatics, well if you turned the petal to pool this would increase its efficiency 

make petal crafts (pretty parasol, garland, whirly fan, clean sweaper)

more things you can burn for ash

fill Wendy's sisturn with petals for sanity

endtables also works

have something you can feed to your beefalo which really helps during taming

Thanks for your reply.

[Mysterious box]

7 minutes ago, Kyno said:

I didn't played the beta too much to know how Petal Production was doing, but what if was Dark Petals instead?

Believe it or not that would actually make it stronger.

[mykenception]

5 minutes ago, Mysterious box said:

Believe it or not that would actually make it stronger.

dark petals

ah yes passive nightmare fuel farm

[Copyafriend]

I love what i’m seeing, i think the switching of the mushroom planters FEELS right, i really also am excited about mushroom planting and some kind of bramble husk upgrade??? Very exciting !

Oh my i also realize that the “intro skills” are gone allowing for a little bit more skillage, that’s AWESOME!!!

thank you very much klei, i am so happy there was a second go over <3

is that a photosynthesis II?

Edit (I don't normally caption my edits): it is in fact not, I misremembered what the photosynthesis icon looked like, that's the sun protection and photosynthesis later on.

[HowlVoid]

41 minutes ago, -Variant said:

The vocal folk seemed a lot less constructive than I had hoped, but I am glad for these changes.

They seem nice.
EDIT: Very excited for Moonshroom growing! 

Wormwood has gotten the shaft for too long so I'm going to be as vocal as I need to be.

Long live the king.

Ty Klei, ik you guys wouldn't do this for us if you didn't think at least some of it was reasonable.

[Kyno]

6 minutes ago, mykenception said:

dark petals

ah yes passive nightmare fuel farm

Yeah I thought about that, nevermind then.

[Evelo]

I am happier than a Pig in S**t.

I am a Wormwood in S**t.

THANK YOU!

[bloopah]

24 minutes ago, lakhnish said:

I disagree with this interpretation as to what happened on stream, but to each their own.

Eh, if the developers say on stream that they are looking for a non-Wormwood question then that's probably for a good reason.