Waoling Posted April 16, 2022 Share Posted April 16, 2022 Even if they evil, I think they more peacful evil. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/139236-is-alter-evil/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
SomebodyRandom Posted April 16, 2022 Share Posted April 16, 2022 Alter is Lawful Evil. Shadows are Chaotic Evil. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/139236-is-alter-evil/#findComment-1558958 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALCRD Posted April 16, 2022 Share Posted April 16, 2022 Alter? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/139236-is-alter-evil/#findComment-1558968 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jan Mele Posted April 16, 2022 Share Posted April 16, 2022 3 minutes ago, ALCRD said: Alter? Da moon Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/139236-is-alter-evil/#findComment-1558969 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sudoku Posted April 16, 2022 Share Posted April 16, 2022 Ah yes, Walter's dead twin ghost brother Alter. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/139236-is-alter-evil/#findComment-1558973 Share on other sites More sharing options...
willell Posted April 16, 2022 Share Posted April 16, 2022 They look hostile to each other, but they are all "moons". In fact, they don't care about humans or the creatures in famine. They are all dangerous goods, and they will be infected when they are used.(《Annihilation》) They all mutate some creatures, but I don't know why it doesn't have such a big impact on men. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/139236-is-alter-evil/#findComment-1558994 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chesmu Posted April 16, 2022 Share Posted April 16, 2022 Everything in DST forests are evil to some degree, don't let cute or neutral looking things and creatures fool you, it's mostly Charlei's world afterall. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/139236-is-alter-evil/#findComment-1558999 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Echsrick Posted April 16, 2022 Share Posted April 16, 2022 well, we dont realy know to much about it, maybe he actualy does want to help out, in a weird way Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/139236-is-alter-evil/#findComment-1559002 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frosty_Mentos Posted April 16, 2022 Share Posted April 16, 2022 I don't align with this topic. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/139236-is-alter-evil/#findComment-1559003 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheggf Posted April 16, 2022 Share Posted April 16, 2022 Anything that I can attack either directly or indirectly is evil, so he is evil as I can slay his champion. Wendy is also evil as I can slay her Abigail. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/139236-is-alter-evil/#findComment-1559251 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capybara007 Posted April 16, 2022 Share Posted April 16, 2022 i think he is just neutral, he just bothers himself to send a robot to kill you just because you tries to steal his moon powers, other than that he is good Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/139236-is-alter-evil/#findComment-1559257 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SomebodyRandom Posted April 16, 2022 Share Posted April 16, 2022 Also Alter left their kid for milk, even during their content arc. That's the evilest thing possible. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/139236-is-alter-evil/#findComment-1559260 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jan Mele Posted April 17, 2022 Share Posted April 17, 2022 9 hours ago, Cheggf said: Anything that I can attack either directly or indirectly is evil, so he is evil as I can slay his champion. Wendy is also evil as I can slay her Abigail. Walls are evil Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/139236-is-alter-evil/#findComment-1559371 Share on other sites More sharing options...
PunkShark Posted April 17, 2022 Share Posted April 17, 2022 Alter is a deceiving being. This thing tells us all of our wanted desires through telepathic powers (With no signs of actually giving us what we want), it tells us to gather these altar pieces throughout the world (and the survivors act like its a friend, not even questioning its reasons cause we're under the spell of lunacy) in exchange of knowledge. It's being nice to us on purpose via the gestalts cause its using us for its own gain. And the knowledge we gain isn't even that good compared to the fuel which gives us a lot to work with. What does Alter give us, a turf machine? some weapons and a bath bomb? Compared to the fuel this is awful. in reality all Alter wants is to spread its influence across the constant and potentially corrupt it for its own intention. As it did with the birds, with the hounds and the pengulls, what could've happened if Wagstaff didn't actually stop Alter might've been even more catastrophical. Now, is Alter evil? well to us yes this would definitely be considered evil, but is it evil in nature? that's debatable. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/139236-is-alter-evil/#findComment-1559484 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxposting Posted April 17, 2022 Share Posted April 17, 2022 On the eldritch creature scale? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/139236-is-alter-evil/#findComment-1559582 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astraia Posted April 17, 2022 Share Posted April 17, 2022 I don't know, is she? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/139236-is-alter-evil/#findComment-1559613 Share on other sites More sharing options...
minespatch Posted April 17, 2022 Share Posted April 17, 2022 7 hours ago, PunkShark said: Alter is a deceiving being. Klei needs to implement the amoebas later. Those clones where a fascinating topic that should be explored later. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/139236-is-alter-evil/#findComment-1559650 Share on other sites More sharing options...
LiamAshvinn001 Posted April 18, 2022 Share Posted April 18, 2022 I mean if someone woke up me for no reason i would probably be mad Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/139236-is-alter-evil/#findComment-1559711 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eughstein Posted April 18, 2022 Share Posted April 18, 2022 There is no "good" or "evil" in this world, every person has both good and bad things in it's personality, alter and it's(idk how else i refer to a moon?) moon creatures fight with Charlie and shadow monsters, none of them are either "good" or "evil", it's just 2 sides fighting with each other.Also not gonna mention that if we talk about "good and evil" Alter is just innocent person getting attacked, not only Charlie tried to manipulate him which caused moon island to appear, but also dst characters literally trying to steal his moon energy, as selfe defence he sends a Celestial Chapmion, and even then survivors kill it and steal his powers. Oh except griefers and people who just want to ruin everyone's elses fun yeah they are bad. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/139236-is-alter-evil/#findComment-1559917 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Copyafriend Posted April 18, 2022 Share Posted April 18, 2022 I think the answer should be very lovecraftian in nature. i dont think either alter OR the shadows are necessarily evil. i think they’re too much for the mortal minds of the cast to understand. One draining our very sanity to try to experience and understand, the other making it to where we’re too aware of whats real and not, forcing us to dumb ourselves down to protect ourselves from its effects. The forces of night and the moon may not necessarily WANT anything in relation to the survivors. If we’re low on sanity or near areas where nightmare creatures are stronger, those may want to kill the survivors, but those could be smaller creatures unrelated to “them” except that they both have a connection to nightmare fuel. They could also just be territorial and unaware of the survivors until they make themselves known. The gestalts could also exist everywhere simultaneously, but only visible and interactable in certain locations. A good analogy i feel is the idea that the shadows are infrared light, only visible to certain creatures or with certain technologies, while the gestalts are ultraviolet. Both equally invisible to the average person, without a little… help. The constant itself could be providing the help for the nightmare creatures. While areas struck by the moons influence is a focus for the gestalts. The cast of characters could all just be sensitive to nightmare creatures as well, and that be why they were chosen to enter the constant. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/139236-is-alter-evil/#findComment-1559996 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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