please tell me the new interface is optional

[Chea-k-hole]

I have messed up hands, I use a controller. I have years of muscle memory on how to quickly use the classic crafting tab. I feel this update will detour me from playing anymore. I have over 90% of all paid skins which if i quit i will sell all of and stop buying things from klei. i feel this is too much of a change. i dont think altering a fundamental part of how ive been playing the game for years is a quality of life update at all. I actually i feel this is quite the opposite and will just piss off alot of long time players. Please klei make the crafting tab optional to use the new version or the old. otherwise I a long time player i will feel extremely alienated and i will quit playing klei games all together. NOT ALL QOL UPDATES IMPROVE QUALITY OF LIFE 

[BezKa]

It's not that different. And it is a massive improvement- easier access to chosen (by player) items, filters instead of categories, more items on screen. I've been hesitant, but after trying it out yesterday i think it's working pretty well. 

They are dropping support for the old crafting UI though, so it's not optional. 

[ALCRD]

It's not optional.

[ArubaroBeefalo]

13 minutes ago, Chea-k-hole said:

I have over 90% of all paid skins which if i quit i will sell all of and stop buying things from klei

is this some kind of menace? xD

i dont think it will be optional because how they changed learning turf and lure recipes (and the ones that will come in a future) or how little scrolling console players will need to craft plus the option of having fav recipes tab anf pinned recipes for easy access

you can train muscle memory again in a better enviroment instead of being angry at something you didnt tried

[xEUx]

i feel your pain. atm, we can't craft skinned versions of anything. these people didn't bother to read as a controller player....

[ArubaroBeefalo]

1 minute ago, xEUx said:

i feel your pain. atm, we can't craft skinned versions of anything. these people didn't bother to read as a controller player....

for sure that wont be fixed... lmao

[ALCRD]

Playing DST on PC with a controller is like purposely breaking your own leg before starting in a marathon 

[Notecja]

also by default game pauses when using new menu and that can be changed in options. That means when solo play you get more time to learn new menu. Also is much better, so less scrolling. Favourites makes less need to open it at all. 

[Echsrick]

yes, im no fan of this "qol" part at all, and i have giving many of reason on the thread why i dont like it, so just copy paste my stuff here again of why i dont like that thing at all, and alsol realy do think its easy to go whit old ui as well, and allways gettin those strawman arguments against me, wich in the end make no good sense at all, but anyways, now the start of my text i posted


i realy dont like this new craft ui, literaly dont fix what is not broken, cant wait for a mod to remove this stupid thing because klei seems to not want to give us an options, all taht time memorizing where everything is, aswell that now some things are in more then 1 tap can make things not needed complicated, alsol thats way to big of a thing, its like half the screen removed and it alsol seems like i cant move around anymore while gettin to the craft that thing, and in general that new craft thing is way to clungy, and what ever whit some things being able to be now fully prototyped, or station only, like, do you realy need to make turf whenever you go? seems rather realy stupid of an excuse to not be able to have old craft ui too, it litteraly lost its character in a way too, like the color of the icons are gone, and the character crafts are replaced whit there head icon and not a special lookin one, like, why? why do this? and for sure makes me want to have less feeling of fun honestly, like DONT FIX WHAT IS NOT BROKEN! just dont do random not realy needed changes realy, like, i still miss the point for its existing, and im sure new players have propably a harder time whit this too


sources told me that you cant do actions anymore while that craft ui is open, not like before, wich was something from old times, wich in a way, we are goin backwards again, same whit keep crafting whit douple click and holding, and how i may ask, is that souposed to help new players? to make old ones suffer from what they have memorized? because scrolling is bad? sould everything on your browser now too become a box where everything is cramped in? just so you dont need to use your scroll wheel or clickin on those arrows? realy feels just wrong now aswell whit how you can pin the same item but differend skin at the same time, like, it seems we are truly goin backwards now whit this one


and here are some of those arguments i have been gettin whit my talk



















just to see that people are realy against me it seems

[Hornete]

26 minutes ago, ArubaroBeefalo said:

for sure that wont be fixed... lmao

Not to mention it was specifically mentioned that controller support isnt fully finished yet.

[ArubaroBeefalo]

1 minute ago, Hornete said:

Not to mention it was specifically mentioned that controller support isnt fully finished yet.

clearly a rwys scenario

[Skelewar]

Im out of the loop here. Crafting UI changes are coming? Im assuming they're in beta branch rn? Anyone got a link to the page that announces this 

[ArubaroBeefalo]

3 minutes ago, Skelewar said:

Im out of the loop here. Crafting UI changes are coming? Im assuming they're in beta branch rn? Anyone got a link to the page that announces this 

plus the whole beta forum filled with hotfixes (more than in any previous beta branch i can recall) and suggestion topics

https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/forum/208-dont-starve-together-beta-branch/

[hhh2]

1 hour ago, ALCRD said:

Playing DST on PC with a controller is like purposely breaking your own leg before starting in a marathon 

playing anygame on PC with a gamepad is like that. Well, maybe except smash bros

[Chea-k-hole]

I keep seeing people posting something along the lines of well relearn to play the game, and I feel that just a cheap cop out. This is clearly A PLAYER NERF to cater to new players. Which is crazy when you think about it that Klei has found a way to nerf me the player. Why should I have to relearn to play a game ive been playing for years at all? Why cant this be optional? Did Klei not think this out thoroughly? Its simply absurd that me a player thats been playing for years is not given a option to not keep the original crafting tab, and instead will be forced to use a noob crafting tab if I would so chose to continue playing. Soo yeah I just wont chose to continue to play then. A player nerf is simply unacceptable.

[BezKa]

25 minutes ago, Chea-k-hole said:

PLAYER NERF

Evidently not if you're having so much trouble with it. 

[jan Mele]

2 hours ago, Dr.Medic said:

snip

Oh, so you need comfort in navigating the ui more than beginners? The sorting hasn't changed all that much anyway. I agree with the menus being too big though.

[Mr Giggio]

I really think muscle memory is a thing what happens for all of us, and is specially important to console players and all * deeply inhales *

however

stickin with the position so harsly at the point u want to quit can be a bad thing before tryin, at least, use the quick crafts in that shortcut things
i mean, u can practice a lil bit, dont ya think? specially cuz the game freezes when u open craft tab.

I totally agree with about bein a struggle re-learn how to craft, dont get me wrong. My point here is: u sound a bit radical when u dont even tried. Give it a chance bro.

[Mike23Ua]

3 hours ago, ALCRD said:

Playing DST on PC with a controller is like purposely breaking your own leg before starting in a marathon 

But should it FEEL this way? That’s the question you need to ask- I have already in my past posts shown actual evidence where console gamers pay more for a worse experience with the game-

But… why is this? And more importantly they’ve even said they hired a team of Devs to work almost Exclusively on the console versions of the game, improving our QoL, tweaking things just over all in general- Better Console experience support.

I have this terrible feeling As soon as this update goes live for Xbox my first new thread is going to be “Thanks.. I hate it.”

Simply just because of how much more of a hassle it’s going to be to use on an Xbox Controller, the CURRENT Non-Beta UI is simple enough: You press LT to pull up the craft window then you move your analog stick down or left to right to find what your looking for by fast scrolling- if your used to this menu you can probably find and craft what your looking for in less then 15 seconds.

Each time you gathered enough materials to craft something the game would “Chime” letting you know you can craft something, once crafted- Prototyped structures were highlighted in Blue to indicate it’s a structure you have already crafted but Have not placed down yet.

Not to mention: General bulk of console players base (judged by friends list) is in general quite dare I say “Stupid”? I don’t mean this as an Insult to ANYONE but- let’s just say it’s easier to find a characters specific craftable items if it’s in a tab that only that character HAS then it is to scour through all the crafting categories to find them & we need these things easy to view and understand.

TL:DR- It’s easier to find Ectoherbology potions and the Sisturn when they have their own Icons.

I am not looking forward to this upcoming update at all.. in fact I dread it, I have spent years literal YEARS trying to get my dad and little sister to play DST with me, and prior to this update: I could’ve walked them through step by step where and how to find most everything they want to craft, and NOW before I’ll be able to do that again: I’ll need to Re-Learn the game all over again myself (or at least the crafting menus/kiting patterns.)

A QoL is supposed to “Improve” the players enjoyment of the game, so then Tell me why using an Xbox controller is like breaking your own leg before entering a race again?

its.. disheartening to say the least. But as usual I’ll wait to try it myself before I complain too much about it.

Fingers Crossed they have some cool stuff coming up for Console Support.

[Capybara007]

The new UI isnt optional, get used to it

[ArubaroBeefalo]

okey, some basic geometry since seems like school these days dont teach it

1) the old system, you can only go up and down so it takes more time

2 and 3 is the new system, you can go up, down, left and right so it takes way less time which is perfect for console players

/discussion

[QuartzBeam]

8 minutes ago, ArubaroBeefalo said:

okey, some basic geometry since seems like school these days dont teach it

1) the old system, you can only go up and down so it takes more time

2 and 3 is the new system, you can go up, down, left and right so it takes way less time which is perfect for console players

/discussion

Hmmm, I've been looking at this for hours and I still haven't figured out the value of x.

[ArubaroBeefalo]

Just now, QuartzBeam said:

Hmmm, I've been looking at this for hours and I still haven't figured out the value of x.

isnt suppose to be a graphic but the joystick movements

Spoiler

 

[lionking102]

7 hours ago, Chea-k-hole said:

I have messed up hands, I use a controller. I have years of muscle memory on how to quickly use the classic crafting tab. I feel this update will detour me from playing anymore. I have over 90% of all paid skins which if i quit i will sell all of and stop buying things from klei. i feel this is too much of a change. i dont think altering a fundamental part of how ive been playing the game for years is a quality of life update at all. I actually i feel this is quite the opposite and will just piss off alot of long time players. Please klei make the crafting tab optional to use the new version or the old. otherwise I a long time player i will feel extremely alienated and i will quit playing klei games all together. NOT ALL QOL UPDATES IMPROVE QUALITY OF LIFE 

ok, then bye

[Well-met]

Someone will surely remake the old ui on the workshop. Just wait a bit.