The venting thread

[thegreatJash]

15 hours ago, Just-guy said:

I'm quite sad that character's voices have gone from instruments that showed their personalities;

• fast flute for Willow
• loud and heavy brass horns for Wigfrid
• slow flute for Wendy
• out of tune ukelele for Walani

to more centered around the character's premise;

• fiddle for Wortox
• wet gargling for Wurt
• hand whistle for Walter
• clock chimes for Wanda

May I disagree here? I kinda agree with a few of those last characters, but Wortox's and Walter's are perfect imo. Wortox is shown to be a prankster and talks in riddles and rhyme, not really caring that much about what is going on around him. As an imp with those traits, I think the fiddle really fits him. It's high notes and random nature definitely fit him and his personality, both unpredictable and somewhat annoying at times. 

As for Walter, again, both his personality and his voice can be super annoying some times. The only difference from Wortox's is that his voice has a lot of recognizable songs in them. If I may ask, if you were to change the last four of those character's voices, what would you change them to so that they "match their personality"? Just curious.

[LinknAllie]

A few things
-Wagstaff in DST as a playable character please
-Wortox OP and bad
-Wurt boring
-Ocean feels empty still
-I hope KLEI doesn't drop the ROT arc or at least with the next arc continues where this one left off.  Since Wagstaff seems to be an important plot point in the ROT arc I really REALLY hope they don't abandon it.

[HumanBean150]

my only complaint on recent voices is that Wurt's just shouldn't exist.

4 minutes ago, LinknAllie said:

-Wortox OP and bad

?

[LinknAllie]

Just now, HumanBean150 said:

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Infinite health and food when paired with a Wendy at a butterfly farm.  I will not elaborate. 

[HumanBean150]

1 minute ago, LinknAllie said:

Wendy

There's your problem.

[Dextops]

11 minutes ago, LinknAllie said:

Infinite health and food when paired with a Wendy at a butterfly farm.  I will not elaborate. 

hasn't this been disproved a couple of times now?

[Mike23Ua]

22 minutes ago, LinknAllie said:

Infinite health and food when paired with a Wendy at a butterfly farm.  I will not elaborate. 

Turn Butterflies to OFF & problem solved

Another thing I want to rant about: Klei has released no further news about the Terraria thing, there’s no word on if there will be a PC Beta first or if they aim to get it out on all platforms to experience together..

There’s no word on if this is a one time deal with Re-Logic or if both franchises will continue to borrow ideas, resources, craftables and mobs from one another.

We literally only have a Teaser GiF & then NADA!

Now using my thinking cap (yes I have one shut up..) Klei would want to get this update out (& Bug Free) BEFORE The Thanksgiving Holidays right??? So this update has to be coming sooner rather than later right??

WHY ARE THERE NO FURTHER TEASES OR DETAILS?!

*throws something at nearest wall in frustration*

[Kyriena]

Not really a rant but, Wigfird not being able to eat butterlies. She says she ate the bugs out of the reeds when you cut them and they are insects yet she wont eat a butterfly which is also an insect. I get you can plant butterflies to make more flowers but still its a insect, she should be able to eat it

[ArubaroBeefalo]

1 hour ago, Shosuko said:

nah, you can't get rid of him if he spawns behind a structure, so doing a boat base doesn't work out

she spawns in the opposite side of the aimed player so you can control her spawn point. If a structure blocks her just be there when you hear her sound to prevent her spawning in that side of the boat

[HowlVoid]

26 minutes ago, ArubaroBeefalo said:

she spawns in the opposite side of the aimed player so you can control her spawn point. If a structure blocks her just be there when you hear her sound to prevent her spawning in that side of the boat

Oof, that may be a problem for me because I only build things on the edges. Right on those X marks because I thought that that was what they were for... All of my X marks are occupied...

[Mike23Ua]

25 minutes ago, HowlVoid said:

Oof, that may be a problem for me because I only build things on the edges. Right on those X marks because I thought that that was what they were for... All of my X marks are occupied...

I actually don’t have a problem with Wavey.. what I seem to struggle with is Cookie Cutters- I hate these things.. they Stun-Lock you.. carve holes into your boat, and are easy to get hidden behind structures/boat masts until it’s too late.. But the WORST part is their Respawn rate is crazy fast after you’ve killed them all out.

Ive actually died several times while in this biome because I would kill them out then think it was “safe” to go pee returning to find I’m dead and my ship is destroyed- thank GOD there’s now a pause button that prevents this.. but that doesn’t make them any less annoying in stun-lock and Respawn rate. -_- 

[HowlVoid]

I hate that multiple houndious shootiouses are gated behind fuel weaver kills. Even just cheesing fuel weaver is such a chore and then you get stuck with 10 bone helmets, thuribles and bone armors. Those items are honestly not worth a single use of my green gems.

We should be able to revive him with a medallion + red gems or something, add horns to the loot stash, anything.

[Capybara007]

When wigfrid examines the strident trident, she mentions poseidon, but poseidon is from the GREEK mythology, and wigfrid is a warrior from the NORDIC mythology, like wth

[HowlVoid]

15 minutes ago, Capybara007 said:

When wigfrid examines the strident trident, she mentions poseidon, but poseidon is from the GREEK mythology, and wigfrid is a warrior from the NORDIC mythology, like wth

She's been playing the new god of war.

[thegreatJash]

2 hours ago, LinknAllie said:

-Wortox OP and bad

I'm not surprised. Of course it had to rear its ugly head.

[Brubs]

Wurt needs a Gucci designer skin

[Yuuko]

2 hours ago, ArubaroBeefalo said:

she spawns in the opposite side of the aimed player so you can control her spawn point. If a structure blocks her just be there when you hear her sound to prevent her spawning in that side of the boat

Pretty bad answer considering 1) managing a boat requires moving around and 2) its a multiplayer game.

Was this a VENT thread?  Or a give bad answers that don't mean anything to reasonable critiques thread?

I got another vent - dismissive replies from forumers who don't realize there are problems with the game because they don't personally experience it.

[ArubaroBeefalo]

31 minutes ago, Shosuko said:

Pretty bad answer considering 1) managing a boat requires moving around and 2) its a multiplayer game.

Was this a VENT thread?  Or a give bad answers that don't mean anything to reasonable critiques thread?

I got another vent - dismissive replies from forumers who don't realize there are problems with the game because they don't personally experience it.

sorry for giving a tip, wont happen again

[Superlucas1231]

On 11/7/2021 at 9:05 PM, Dextops said:

If i had to choose something to vent about it'd be wendy she doesn't seem very fun and her personality to me doesn't have much depth to it and i could vent about how her character could've been, but i just don't like combat characters in general

I have a shopping list of things to vent about this game and this is legit one of the things that bother me the most.

Wendy is just...bad. Like really bad and overrated. Both gameplay-wise and personality-wise.

Gameplay-wise, she throws literally one of the biggest aspects of Don't Starve out the window; the learning experience. While most other characters aren't too extreme with gimmicks, you still had to play some-what differently and learn the game in order to survive. Warly can't over-rely on the same 1-3 foods and actually needs to experiment with the crock-pot system. Wormwood (at least before RWYS) had very limited healing options and can't just Unga Bunga everything. Even with cases like Webber, where you don't have to use spiders, you still can't rely on pigs and changes the gameplay at least somewhat compared to most other characters. 

Then you have Wendy. She can summon Abby...for free. Abby can be upgraded...for free.  Wendy can deal more dmg to mobs that Abby attacks...for free. What happens when Abby dies?...you only lose 30 of your 200 sanity - which, unlike Walter and Wickerbottom, you can regain it normally without any extra roadblocks. Did i mention you also restore 15 sanity when summoning Abby (which you can do ANYTIME after she dies) which means you actually lose 3 petals worth of sanity? Did I also mention you can make a structure that lets you heal sanity for the cost of next-to-nothing? Did I also mention that Wendy has resistance to the majority of insanity auras? DID I ALSO MENTION THAT SANITY IS BARELY MORE OF A THREAT TO HER THAN WITH LITERALLY ANY OTHER CHARACTER?

Too much of her character is the game giving you stuff for little to no cost and having little to no risk with it. Even the Pipspooks sucks because they're literally just a fetch quest in the least hostile environment in the game (and how Abby can hard counter almost any threat you encounter within said biome). Never mind that her downside is only going to be felt when she's insane (which the games give way too many tools for her to counter), or if Abby is dead (which is very easy to prevent).

You have a character with a unique gimmick, but not do anything with it outside of making her handhold-y in a game that is popular for not being handhold-y.

And then you have her personality 

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Oh my god do I hate Wendy's personality. 1000 times more than I hate her gameplay.

So you have this character that is supposed to be creepy and morbid. That’s fine. She makes suicide jokes. Multiple of them.Really. Fine. She jokes about murdering her friend. Fine... not a huge problem because she is just a very edgy character that’s not supposed to be taken seriously.

But for whatever reason, she is supposed to be taken seriously. With things like her character refresh trailer and some of her quotes, she’s trying to come off as this tragic, depressed little girl that’s sad about her sister dying.  

That ruins her whole character. she ends up coming off as a stereotype of depressed people being emo/edgy and its played seriously. it makes the jokes horrible unfunny, her "edgy" quotes a lot more obnoxious, and makes it extremely hard to feel bad for her when she casually jokes about murdering her friends for no reason.

I could maybe see the argument of "Wendy acts like this because she became way too fixated on Abby's death, causing her to become more nihilistic of life and to accept that death is inevitable." or something. but like, then why does she just casually make jokes about killing her friends while also getting really upset whenever Abby dies? Why does she even try to hide her happiness in some quotes but not in others? she just comes so artificial and hard to feel bad for because she tries so hard to come off as being edgy.

I don't even want to give her a chance and reread her quotes and change my opinion because a chunk of her fandom treats her like this "uwuwuw quirky expersso depresso uwuwuwuwuwuwu" character. I just personally hate it when depression (or any mental illness) is played off like a personality trait. 

There's still so much I don't like about Wendy but this post is already long and really over-dramatic and I really don't feel like typing more.

[Dextops]

1 minute ago, Superlucas1231 said:

I have a shopping list of things to vent about this game and this is legit one of the things that bother me the most.

Wendy is just...bad. Like really bad and overrated. Both gameplay-wise and personality-wise.

Gameplay-wise, she throws literally one of the biggest aspects of Don't Starve out the window; the learning experience. While most other characters aren't too extreme with gimmicks, you still had to play some-what differently and learn the game in order to survive. Warly can't over-rely on the same 1-3 foods and actually needs to experiment with the crock-pot system. Wormwood (at least before RWYS) had very limited healing options and can't just Unga Bunga everything. Even with cases like Webber, where you don't have to use spiders, you still can't rely on pigs and changes the gameplay at least somewhat compared to most other characters. 

Then you have Wendy. She can summon Abby...for free. Abby can be upgraded...for free.  Wendy can deal more dmg to mobs that Abby attacks...for free. What happens when Abby dies?...you only lose 30 of your 200 sanity - which, unlike Walter and Wickerbottom, you can regain it normally without any extra roadblocks. Did i mention you also restore 15 sanity when summoning Abby (which you can do ANYTIME after she dies) which means you actually lose 3 petals worth of sanity? Did I also mention you can make a structure that lets you heal sanity for the cost of next-to-nothing? Did I also mention that Wendy has resistance to the majority of insanity auras? DID I ALSO MENTION THAT SANITY IS BARELY MORE OF A THREAT TO HER THAN WITH LITERALLY ANY OTHER CHARACTER?

Too much of her character is the game giving you stuff for little to no cost and having little to no risk with it. Even the Pipspooks sucks because they're literally just a fetch quest in the least hostile environment in the game (and how Abby can hard counter almost any threat you encounter within said biome). Never mind that her downside is only going to be felt when she's insane (which the games give way too many tools for her to counter), or if Abby is dead (which is very easy to prevent).

You have a character with a unique gimmick, but not do anything with it outside of making her handhold-y in a game that is popular for not being handhold-y.

And then you have her personality 

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Oh my god do I hate Wendy's personality. 1000 times more than I hate her gameplay.

So you have this character that is supposed to be creepy and morbid. That’s fine. She makes suicide jokes. Multiple of them.Really. Fine. She jokes about murdering her friend. Fine... not a huge problem because she is just a very edgy character that’s not supposed to be taken seriously.

But for whatever reason, she is supposed to be taken seriously. With things like her character refresh trailer and some of her quotes, she’s trying to come off as this tragic, depressed little girl that’s sad about her sister dying.  

That ruins her whole character. she ends up coming off as a stereotype of depressed people being emo/edgy and it played seriously. it makes the jokes horrible unfunny, her "edgy" quotes a lot more obnoxious, and makes it extremely hard to feel bad for her when she casually jokes about murdering her friends for no reason.

I could maybe see the argument of "Wendy acts like this because she became way too fixated on Abby's death, causing her to become more nihilistic of life and to accept that death is inevitable." or something. but like, then why does she just casually make killing her friends while also getting really upset whenever Abby dies? Why does she even try to hide her happiness in some quotes but not in others? she just comes so artificial and hard to feel bad for because she tries so hard to come off as being edgy.

I don't even want to give her a chance to reread her quotes and change my opinion because even a chunk of her community treats her like this "uwuwuw quirky expersso depresso uwuwuwuwuwuwu" character. I just personally hate it when depression (or any mental illness) is played off like a personality trait. 

There's still so much I don't like about Wendy but this post is already long and really over-dramatic and I really don't feel like typing more.

finally a fellow wendy hater

also someone else who uses the term depresso expresso

[HowlVoid]

37 minutes ago, Dextops said:

finally a fellow wendy hater

also someone else who uses the term depresso expresso

The more you hate Wendy, the more you empower her.

[Cookie95]

I really really hate how the attack  button prioritises hitting walls over nearby enemies like I'm getting mauled by 10 hounds but sure let's just break the fence instead 

[Mike23Ua]

I hate items In a game that’s supposed to be punishing, that make that game less punishing- Scaled Furnace, Eyebrella, Thermal Stone, Bird Cage for Endless Pierogis- all of it just simplifies things, crafting a bell ringing it beside a Beefalo’s ear and having it passively follow you everywhere while you feed/ride it in your free time till it’s fully tamed- I hate that they make some of the best armor and best wall protections in the game easier to craft by reducing their costs: but they do absolutely nothing in terms of adding more difficult content that adjusts for that easily acquirable armor or insta-tame battle mount.

I hate not having Shipwrecked and Hamlets harsher seasons, weather effects and more unique difficult mobs.

I also hate how Wendy has Abigails flower as a crafting recipe, and when she Unsummons Abigail she goes through a literal animation of ripping the flower apart: But she doesn’t need to craft a new flower each time.

As a Wendy main- Taking care of Abigail (and thus not letting her die once summoned) should be Wendy’s PRIORITY, and the way she plays now.. it’s just an endless Summon.

I get that Wendy was always designed fo be the “easy mode character” but I can’t help but feel like on a harder difficulty- ripping that flower apart should have meaningful consequences behind it.

I also hate that PC version can Utilize Returning/Healing Abigail far more Easily while people using a Xbox or PlayStation Controller have to actually get within SPEAR HITTING DISTANCE OF HER TO RETURN HER TO HER FLOWER AND HEAL which puts Us in the direct path of Danger.

I also hate how the game actually has RNG mob encounters but with very low chances of that happening I can toggle hunt surprises to happen more often, less often or none at all- but I can’t do the same with what comes out of a tumbleweed when I pluck it, lureplant when I kill it, or gravestone when I dig it up.

I equally hate how every single last character rework has pretty much completely removed downsides in favor of actual good useful perks.

And how Klei made that deal with Tencent to help fund them and they haven’t announced anything on that end like- bigger more meaningful content updates, possibility of seeing gorge/forge return, or possibility of seeing an official expanded & enhanced Xbox Series X/PS5 version of the game released. In fact I haven’t seen any big changes that would have made that partnership worthwhile.. and that scares/concerns me deeply. I’m remaining hopeful that they’re working on a lot of good stuff that they’re not ready to share just yet but for now- I’m upset I haven’t seen any huge differences between the before & after of that studio announcement.

I wish someone at Klei would have explained to us what that deal did for us as customers who enjoy their products.

(also I’m pretty sure this thread only exists because everyone is bored in between game updates.)

So now I’ll go on some long rant about how boredom sucks, but then I will get bored of typing out that rant- realize the majority of it is stupid & pointless, delete the rant I typed out & then just rant about how I was going to make a long rant but decided I would just rant about not doing it instead.

27 minutes ago, Geo95 said:

I really really hate how the attack  button prioritises hitting walls over nearby enemies like I'm getting mauled by 10 hounds but sure let's just break the fence instead 

If your on Xbox simply click in your Analog stick to Auto-Target an enemy and lock onto it..

Klei should maybe play games like Marvels Avengers though- once you auto lock something you should also be able to quickly cycle other nearby targets. But Yeah..

The Target lock prevents you from attacking anything else though or doing much of anything- so if you target lock a butterfly and it flies off screen don’t forget to press B to cancel target lock on him or you WILL regret it later.

[Pinkamena11FazP]

I want the Guest of Honor skins without my wallet crying for mercy, the Wilson skin is 71 DOLLARS, I HATE skin overpricing! 

[Yuuko]

2 hours ago, ArubaroBeefalo said:

sorry for giving a tip, wont happen again

not in THIS thread it won't !!!! lol