chirsg Posted September 27, 2020 Share Posted September 27, 2020 Pretty simple. Query in the title. lmk what you think Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike23Ua Posted September 27, 2020 Share Posted September 27, 2020 I would only consider myself a secondary Wigfrid main (Wendy is obviously 1st) But- If my opinion counts.. I like the bowing animation “Encore, Encore” and all that- But (and maybe I’m just Nitpicking here..) I would have Preferred her Animation to be the same one that is currently on the main menu screen for my game- Spear firmly planted in the ground beside her as she reads a music sheet while yelling out into the heavens as little note animations appear above her head (without sound of course...) not only does this fit the Theme of her Animated Short, and the direction they took her Rework in.. but it also opens up the bow to someone else (Like Maxwell or Charlie) who were also stage performers but didn’t make their living off of singing Operas. Its still a very good animation fitting of a Stage Actress.. so I understand why Klei choose that, I just felt personally like the menu loading screen in the end though- I can totally live with the one she’s got currently because it is still a good one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karmattack Posted September 28, 2020 Share Posted September 28, 2020 11 hours ago, Mike23Ua said: I would only consider myself a secondary Wigfrid main (Wendy is obviously 1st) But- If my opinion counts.. I like the bowing animation “Encore, Encore” and all that- But (and maybe I’m just Nitpicking here..) I would have Preferred her Animation to be the same one that is currently on the main menu screen for my game- Spear firmly planted in the ground beside her as she reads a music sheet while yelling out into the heavens as little note animations appear above her head (without sound of course...) not only does this fit the Theme of her Animated Short, and the direction they took her Rework in.. but it also opens up the bow to someone else (Like Maxwell or Charlie) who were also stage performers but didn’t make their living off of singing Operas. Its still a very good animation fitting of a Stage Actress.. so I understand why Klei choose that, I just felt personally like the menu loading screen in the end though- I can totally live with the one she’s got currently because it is still a good one. I think they might consider that too close to /carol? I do like the optimism of playable Charlie happening to have emotes assigned to her though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chirsg Posted September 28, 2020 Author Share Posted September 28, 2020 Since the results are in, I can express my bias. I hate it. it's so basic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OMGkawaiiAngel Posted September 28, 2020 Share Posted September 28, 2020 I think it's lovely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prezera Posted September 28, 2020 Share Posted September 28, 2020 28 minutes ago, chirsg said: Since the results are in, I can express my bias. I hate it. it's so basic. Legitimately asking here, what else would you have wanted it to be? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chirsg Posted September 28, 2020 Author Share Posted September 28, 2020 If I had a choice but still required it to be a bow, I would definitely make it more emotive, less humble and more extravagant. Wigfrid is supposed to be larger than life. Why shouldn't her bow represent that? Or a pose with her pointing the battlespear up, but more drawn out than the example below with a more expressive look on her face. I had huge, for lack of a better word, "expectation-itis" I've been playing primarily Wigfrid, She is why I learned how to fight in this game and even after I knew that Wolfgang was head and shoulders above her as a fighter, it was her boastful charm that kept me playing her. The unique idle she has... It doesn't blow me away. It's not boastful and it's almost submissive. Not about it at all. The wigfrid shown in this trailer is not present at all in her idle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chirsg Posted September 28, 2020 Author Share Posted September 28, 2020 Before anyone says I'm just speaking against klei, I'll end with this. Winona, Woodie and Willow got fantastic treatments with their idles. Wortox who isn't a rework character has a unique idle that's extremely endearing and I enjoy seeing it when i'm standing still. Willow's is super cute and demonstrates really well how she values bernie. Woodie when polishing lucy shows how proud he is. Take a good look at his face when he does it. It's not just the body language, it's the expression he has too. Winona screams "let's get to work" with her idle. They've all been done well. Klei brought down the house with those. When I compare Wigfrid's to theirs, it's honestly budget. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArubaroBeefalo Posted September 28, 2020 Share Posted September 28, 2020 3 minutes ago, chirsg said: Before anyone says I'm just speaking against klei, I'll end with this. Winona, Woodie and Willow got fantastic treatments with their idles. Wortox who isn't a rework character has a unique idle that's extremely endearing and I enjoy seeing it when i'm standing still. Willow's is super cute and demonstrates really well how she values bernie. Woodie when polishing lucy shows how proud he is. Take a good look at his face when he does it. It's not just the body language, it's the expression he has too. Winona screams "let's get to work" with her idle. They've all been done well. Klei brought down the house with those. When I compare Wigfrid's to theirs, it's honestly budget. Its your opinion. I dont think anybody can say that you hate klei because you dont like the animation. It could fit more her personality, that is right What i dont like is the animation when you try to sing without inspiration. Her arm become so hugeeee with some skins xd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prezera Posted September 28, 2020 Share Posted September 28, 2020 Also, even if you aren't, it's perfectly fine to "speak against" Klei. Constructive criticism is always helpful and if no one talked about what parts of the game they didn't like dst would probably be a very different game, in a bad way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sanchozz Posted September 28, 2020 Share Posted September 28, 2020 In the new idle animation, Wigfrid constantly grabs her liver. Maybe she has cirrhosis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-met Posted September 28, 2020 Share Posted September 28, 2020 I kinda agree her unique idle is weak. And the coughing animation is extremely rough. It's very off and completely out of scale. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MondayNight Posted September 28, 2020 Share Posted September 28, 2020 Well, through Wig's update KLei went with a more actress/performer take on the character as opposed to the actual viking-warrior persona, so it stands to reason her idle animation being an end-of-play bow (also a pseudo-pun on the dabbing-pose meme I presume). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A3_21 Posted September 28, 2020 Share Posted September 28, 2020 My only complaint is with her hands, I find that they are deformed and not just in idle animation but most of these Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thegreatJash Posted September 28, 2020 Share Posted September 28, 2020 She should bow in both directions, left AND right. It bothers me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShadowDuelist Posted September 28, 2020 Share Posted September 28, 2020 I like it, although now that they pointed it out, yes it looks a little "not as good" compared to the others. I agree that her bow could be more dramatic, given how all she does and says is overacted and dramatic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brubs Posted September 29, 2020 Share Posted September 29, 2020 I actually like it. Actors bow when the play has finished, so they are no longer playing a character, they are themselves now. Same goes with Wigfrid's animation. After all, she is playing her character in the constant. Besides, something too dramatic wouldnt pass as an idle animation, all of them are discreet. And i mean cmon, Wurt scratches one of her horns... so definitely Wigfrid animation is not basic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chirsg Posted September 29, 2020 Author Share Posted September 29, 2020 It's basic and mundane. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chirsg Posted September 29, 2020 Author Share Posted September 29, 2020 8 hours ago, Brubs said: Wurt scratches one of her horns Just because another idle is just scratching, doesn't make it so Wigfrid's is any better by default. This is like a suffering one up attempt. Because one character has a "worse" idle animation must obviously mean the worse idle has a monopoly on lazy idle animations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brubs Posted September 29, 2020 Share Posted September 29, 2020 1 hour ago, chirsg said: Just because another idle is just scratching, doesn't make it so Wigfrid's is any better by default. This is like a suffering one up attempt. Because one character has a "worse" idle animation must obviously mean the worse idle has a monopoly on lazy idle animations. Never said that, you probably skipped what i wrote earlier in that post. Xo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spar Posted September 29, 2020 Share Posted September 29, 2020 i read comments and most state they dislike her idle animation or suggest changes but when i see what people voted i feel relieved most people liked it because i do too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GetNerfedOn Posted September 29, 2020 Share Posted September 29, 2020 1 hour ago, Spar said: i read comments and most state they dislike her idle animation or suggest changes but when i see what people voted i feel relieved most people like it because i do too its always interesting when poll results contradict the comments section a rare occurence Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike23Ua Posted September 29, 2020 Share Posted September 29, 2020 Honestly it feels more appropriate as an Emote anyone can use and defiantly NOT Wigfrid exclusive- I can cement that fact home by stating that I bought Willows belongings set and with THAT Klei even went the extra mile with her refresh to ensure that if you picked Ashley over Bernie.. you would actually SEE Willow Cuddle ASHLEY and Not Bernie.. This Idle however- would fit Wigfrid, Maxwell, Charlie, Characters greeting one another, Japanese mod characters bowing over in “Thanks” It’s fine if they don’t change it any at all.. because I’m probably just nit-picking at it and loved how Wendy got a cool flower plucking animation & expected Wigfrid to get something equally unique. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A3_21 Posted September 29, 2020 Share Posted September 29, 2020 47 minutes ago, Mike23Ua said: This Idle however- would fit Wigfrid, Maxwell, Charlie in my opinion ... there are several animations that Maxwell and Charlie can do beyond a simple bow examples can be seen in the cinematics of "The Amazing Maxwell" or another example is that Maxwell can take a "Mr. Skitts" with the codex umbra in its inactive animation (sorry for my poor English) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-met Posted September 30, 2020 Share Posted September 30, 2020 Were the animations actually changed last night? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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