S19TealPenguin Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 So the Wendy rework was released less than half an hour ago. And with it comes some new lore opportunities. Starting with the image Spoiler The three main things I notice are the Diary, the Poster, and the Photo, all of which raise interesting questions. For the diary: Why is there an asterisk on the date? Why are there daisies next to Abigail's Flower? April 16th is a Thursday (Klei's update days), will we get something new then? What is the music that Wendy is hearing? Is it from a voxola? Is it Ragtime? Is this the work of Maxwell? Is this part of how Wendy got to the constant? For the poster: Who is Professor Mourire? Does his first name start with W? Is he at all plot relevant? For the photo: Why is it ripped? Is there anyone plot relevant who got cut out? Why does the lady on the far right slightly resemble Willow? Finally, in the short, how can ghost Abigail exist in the real world? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/116545-new-wendy-lore/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
minespatch Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 One of the people in the photo resembles Warly. Might be a family member. To be honest, I confused Mourire for Woodie. We might see him in the future. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/116545-new-wendy-lore/#findComment-1316751 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warlockadamm Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 3 minutes ago, S19TealPenguin said: Who is Professor Mourire? "Mourire" means dying in french btw just saying Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/116545-new-wendy-lore/#findComment-1316754 Share on other sites More sharing options...
S19TealPenguin Posted March 19, 2020 Author Share Posted March 19, 2020 Just now, Warlockadamm said: "Mourire" means dying in french btw just saying French? Well he does kinda have the Wolfgang 'stache and Wolfgang is french. Maybe they're related. Maybe it has something to do with Wes, because, as we all know, all French people know each other. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/116545-new-wendy-lore/#findComment-1316763 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Dark Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 in that photo it looks like they're performing some sort of ritual...it's a dead giveaway Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/116545-new-wendy-lore/#findComment-1316788 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Szczuku Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 There's this thingy for dead people. 'In loving memory of (Abiga)il Lillian Carter' Sooo... I guess Abigail has a second name. That's cool Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/116545-new-wendy-lore/#findComment-1316801 Share on other sites More sharing options...
minespatch Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 2 minutes ago, Szczuku said: I guess Abigail has a second name Middle name. IF she was a Southerner, it'd be Abigail-Lillian but that doesn't sound right. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/116545-new-wendy-lore/#findComment-1316807 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sudoku Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 What Im getting from all this is Wendy researched a way to talk to Abigail's spirit which led her to this seance which probably went horribly wrong dragging her into the constant. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/116545-new-wendy-lore/#findComment-1316813 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Dark Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 I guess my theory is "almost true"? there's a leaflet with these people who can supposedly contact "spirits" maybe she went to uncle maxwell who knew dark magic at the time? to try and bring her sister back? most survivors were given false promises and that's how they arrived into the constant Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/116545-new-wendy-lore/#findComment-1316819 Share on other sites More sharing options...
minespatch Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 2 minutes ago, Charlie Dark said: maybe she went to uncle maxwell who knew dark magic at the time? What if the people in the photo are connected to a cult?! Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/116545-new-wendy-lore/#findComment-1316821 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Dark Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 Just now, minespatch said: What if the people in the photo are connected to a cult?! possibly.. actually I've seen this before,multiple people go to a "magician" who can contact spirits, then they hold hands together and start the ritual, though I doubt it'd be a cult Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/116545-new-wendy-lore/#findComment-1316822 Share on other sites More sharing options...
varnish Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 I think that the photo is just meant to depict a seance, this was the era when they and spiritualism were still a big deal after all. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/116545-new-wendy-lore/#findComment-1316823 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sudoku Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 She might have found out what a seance was from Maxwell, but all of the items are on a white desk like the new dresser skin, indicating this is her bedroom, which probably means this was largely her own investigation. The ripped page i imagine most likey just comes from the book next to it and has no bearing on important figures other than giving Wendy the idea that this exists. Then we have the poster of the crackpot seance guy who obviously doesnt look very qualified to be meddling with the spirit world and most likely bungled up the ritual. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/116545-new-wendy-lore/#findComment-1316824 Share on other sites More sharing options...
7Meias Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 I actually did a small analisis from that photo :0 This is what i gathered so far 1) the song was almost certainly ragtime 2) The diary dates to 1914, and considering the radios were only built in 1919 max couldnt have lured her through it 3) That image only further proves how wendy always had an affinity with the supernatural, as she could hear ragtime during her dreams 4) She thought it was abigail trying to communicate with her, so as of now I strongly believe that upon starting a seance, it was then that the portal appeared and she was pulled in by shadows - Resuming a lot, but, it is said by spirituals that whenever you try to talk with a spirit, doors to outerworlds might open. The song was certainly a trap, and wendy saly fell for it :'/- 5) If thats true, that also proves how max didnt know she was there on the first place 6) Assuming she was brought in around the time of the short (1914) and that wilson, the last survivor, was in 1921 that also means jack has been a wholeton of 10 years without his two daughters and brother, who disappeared myteriously I also found interesting how the guy on poster has a name that starts with 'M'. It may mean an antagonist role is attached to it (just like maxwell was in the og game) or that he was max himself gdlçfç tho i think the latter is less probable Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/116545-new-wendy-lore/#findComment-1316848 Share on other sites More sharing options...
minespatch Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 3 minutes ago, 7Meias said: 4) She thought it was abigail trying to communicate with her, so as of now I strongly believe that upon starting a seance, it was then that the portal appeared and she was pulled in by shadows Like Mister Howdy from the Exorcist? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/116545-new-wendy-lore/#findComment-1316851 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sudoku Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 5 minutes ago, 7Meias said: 4) She thought it was abigail trying to communicate with her, so as of now I strongly believe that upon starting a seance, it was then that the portal appeared and she was pulled in by shadows Also important to note is that since Abigail and Wendy can clearly communicate in the constant while they could not in the real world there is maybe indication that the seance DID work before the shadows pulled them both in Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/116545-new-wendy-lore/#findComment-1316854 Share on other sites More sharing options...
minespatch Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 I tried to brighten up the poster. He doesn't look like either Woodie or Wolfgang. This is a new character. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/116545-new-wendy-lore/#findComment-1316858 Share on other sites More sharing options...
7Meias Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 3 minutes ago, minespatch said: Like Mister Howdy from the Exorcist? I havent watched that movie dslsjgçsd so i cant know for sure 2 minutes ago, sudoku said: Also important to note is that since Abigail and Wendy can clearly communicate in the constant while they could not in the real world there is maybe indication that the seance DID work before the shadows pulled them both in Thats a very good call!! That explains how someone who died outside the constant was able to materialize itself inside Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/116545-new-wendy-lore/#findComment-1316860 Share on other sites More sharing options...
minespatch Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 6 minutes ago, 7Meias said: I havent watched that movie dslsjgçsd so i cant know for sure Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/116545-new-wendy-lore/#findComment-1316866 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zhuzha Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 1 hour ago, S19TealPenguin said: Why are there daisies next to Abigail's Flower? Apparently, daisies symbolize purity, innocence and loyal love. Also at first glance I thought it was an actual pressed flower, and not a drawing. You know, something dead forever preserved as a dried-up husk, but still closely resembling its former self... Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/116545-new-wendy-lore/#findComment-1316879 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sudoku Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 4 minutes ago, Zhuzha said: Apparently, daisies symbolize purity, innocence and loyal love. Also at first glance I thought it was an actual pressed flower, and not a drawing. You know, something dead forever preserved as a dried-up husk, but still closely resembling its former self... yes i think both flowers on that page are real flowers and not drawings, you can see they have faint shadows behind them In the short Abigail gives Wendy "Abigails flower" after jumping in the flowers, so while they clearly were kind of opposites in terms of personality they both shared a love of flowers Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/116545-new-wendy-lore/#findComment-1316882 Share on other sites More sharing options...
axxel Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 On April 17th 1906 Charly paid a visit at Maxwell's flat. Coincidence? Maybe it's a hint that timetravel is possible with the Codex Umbra. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/116545-new-wendy-lore/#findComment-1316887 Share on other sites More sharing options...
minespatch Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 Just now, axxel said: On April 17th 1906 Charly paid a visit at Maxwell's flat. Coincidence? Maybe it's a hint that timetravel is possible with the Codex Umbra. She was trying to warn him? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/116545-new-wendy-lore/#findComment-1316889 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rinkusan Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 Looks like Lovecraftian tragedy runs in the family. Wendy's pursuit of dark magic in order to talk to her dead sister is basically Maxwell's fall with sort of a Fullmetal Alchemist twist. 3 minutes ago, axxel said: On April 17th 1906 Charly paid a visit at Maxwell's flat. Coincidence? Maybe it's a hint that timetravel is possible with the Codex Umbra. Are you referring to the Maxwell puzzle where Charlie, prior to the April 18th 1906 San Francisco Earthquake event, visited Maxwell and expressed concern about all the cryptic symbols on his walls? I guess I'm a bit confused as to how time travel is involved here. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/116545-new-wendy-lore/#findComment-1316891 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sudoku Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 6 minutes ago, axxel said: On April 17th 1906 Charly paid a visit at Maxwell's flat. Coincidence? Maybe it's a hint that timetravel is possible with the Codex Umbra. yeah i dont see timetravel being a thing Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/116545-new-wendy-lore/#findComment-1316895 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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