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Can you finally tinker with the steam turbine? Pretty please Klei


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Just now, Yoma_Nosme said:

Which bug? The one or the other one? Or none of them? ;P 

Just in case you were asking for real :D - the building itself is marked as "tinkerable" in the code, but does not generate tinker errands.

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51 minutes ago, Tobruk said:

Just in case you were asking for real :D - the building itself is marked as "tinkerable" in the code, but does not generate tinker errands.

Oh Thanks! I was a little sarcastic there. Low blood sugar...Didn't understood it was about the tinkering errand :)

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11 hours ago, fishoutofwater said:

but when you mouse over the turbine its current wattage still below 1275, maybe because the missing of letter “n”?

What letter 'n' are you talking about? The circuit says it's a 1275W source, that's what is important.

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3 hours ago, SharraShimada said:

The power display itself is out of line, and sometimes its stuck at the default value. While annoying, the real ouput is the tinkered one.

I confirm. Statistics on a power tab of a machine on the same power line shows turbine outputs tinkered power.

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You can use engie tune up on a steam turbine, but electricity output is the same. So it is a waste of time, don't do it. It is not a big problem to run test. I construct steam turbine (in debug mode) once with engie tune up, and once without engie tune. Also, all mods were disabled during testing.  One cycle later I read the value from the report tab (345.7 kj) and from a battery (22.8 kj). The value was absolutely the same both time.

 

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if you want you can run the test too. (Savegame included)

There is 4-5 bug report about it. (one is mine). And Klei simply ignores it.  Well maybe if now bug become popular Klei will fix it, or maybe no.

 

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The steam turbine was deliberately excluded from tinker errands to prevent an infinite resource exploit with aqua tuners. At max efficiency, tuners barely make enough heat to not quite break even with turbine power. With tinkering, you can literally generate power from nothing. So if anything, the bug is finding a way to tinker the steam engine in the first place.

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The turbine doesn't actually generate the bonus amount when running at full power and tinkered.  So while you can tinker it, it doesn't actually work.  It shows up on the wires as working, but if you run a test with just the turbine and test produced power its not actually working.

 

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9 hours ago, bobucles said:

The steam turbine was deliberately excluded from tinker errands to prevent an infinite resource exploit with aqua tuners. At max efficiency, tuners barely make enough heat to not quite break even with turbine power. With tinkering, you can literally generate power from nothing. So if anything, the bug is finding a way to tinker the steam engine in the first place.

Do you even listen to your self? Try and think my friend, if the turbine was NOT supposed to be able to take a tune-up, why make it able to recieve the tune-up in the first place then? 

If the turbine was NOT supposed to be tuned up, why does it show alternative values when tuned up ? 

 

It clearly is intended to take a tune-up, but for some reason half the code hasn't been hooked up yet / been written, or what ever the problem is, and therefor shows that it can be tuned up, while not delivering anything extra for it.

 

 

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1 hour ago, SkunkMaster said:

If the turbine was NOT supposed to be tuned up, why does it show alternative values when tuned up ? 

It clearly is intended to take a tune-up, but for some reason half the code hasn't been hooked up yet / been written, or what ever the problem is, and therefor shows that it can be tuned up, while not delivering anything extra for it.

Not necessarily at all. A lot of newly introduced content in this game is introduced with copy/pasted details from pre-existing buildings.

In the past we've had many occurrences of this - maybe in this instance the "Engies tune up" automatically changes the output wattage by 50%, however the wattage calcs aren't being applied. Maybe all #Generators are tuneable.

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11 hours ago, SkunkMaster said:

If the turbine was NOT supposed to be tuned up, why does it show alternative values when tuned up ? 

Because coding is hard and what one line of code tries to do doesn't always result in what actually happens. Unintended behavior results in unintended glitches. Enjoy this breaking news along with the amazing wetting properties of water, tonight at 11.

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