Red Shark Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 Edit: Greetings, visitors from the future. I have good news! Fixed in Meep's Mandatory Recreation Content Pack! Begin Original Post: Since it is rather non-obvious what the "Lit Workplace" buff affects (and because I think I probably helped spread some false information in that regard), I did some testing today. The good news: Light does appear to have an effect on duplicant food! The bad news: That effect is a molecular decimation (or thereabouts) that leaves your duplicants hungrier! Let me explain: I set up 4 "experiment cells" with the following properties: - Lamp (Rowan) - Lamp + Mess Table (Nails) - Mess Table (Nikola) - Empty Control Cell (Jean) Using sandbox mode, I spawned in the above duplicants, and they all had identical calorie counts. Since they were in a small, climate-controlled room, there is nothing to spend excess calories on, and so they should remain at the same calorie count if they are fed the same items. Each duplicant was given a single Mushbar (again, sandbox mode spawned), which should have added an equivalent 800 calories. And yet, now you see how the light has done it's evil work -- Nails and Rowan both are hungrier than their peers. (With Nails having sacrificed an additional 10 kcal to feed the dining table - something the canny Nikola avoided due to not using his dining table (despite it being assigned -- an unrelated bug, presumably). So a word of warning - keep your great halls dark, lest you needlessly waste food as your dupes grow hungrier! The Quarantined Acropolis.sav Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/112429-lit-workplace-is-weird-or-how-i-learned-to-embrace-eating-in-the-dark/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobucles Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 So they're eating the food 15% faster, but aren't gaining kcal 15% faster? The end result is that 800/1.15 => 695 => 105kcal of the mush bar should vanish... which it looks like it does indeed vanish. Cool find! Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/112429-lit-workplace-is-weird-or-how-i-learned-to-embrace-eating-in-the-dark/#findComment-1268439 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stoned Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 Oh man I did lit my messhalls around 1000 cycles ago. Pretty much the only lit area in my dark base. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/112429-lit-workplace-is-weird-or-how-i-learned-to-embrace-eating-in-the-dark/#findComment-1268454 Share on other sites More sharing options...
blacknight7890 Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 seems like a bug, you should report it. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/112429-lit-workplace-is-weird-or-how-i-learned-to-embrace-eating-in-the-dark/#findComment-1268466 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Shark Posted October 5, 2019 Author Share Posted October 5, 2019 1 hour ago, blacknight7890 said: seems like a bug, you should report it. Way ahead of you Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/112429-lit-workplace-is-weird-or-how-i-learned-to-embrace-eating-in-the-dark/#findComment-1268485 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobe17 Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 i gonna kill that shine bug right now! Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/112429-lit-workplace-is-weird-or-how-i-learned-to-embrace-eating-in-the-dark/#findComment-1268494 Share on other sites More sharing options...
zOldBulldog Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 Good catch. How fast are the devs in fixing bugs like this? Is the effort to redesign twice worth it, or should we just wait it out? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/112429-lit-workplace-is-weird-or-how-i-learned-to-embrace-eating-in-the-dark/#findComment-1268495 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLACKBERREST3 Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 Another bug found by red shark. Nice one. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/112429-lit-workplace-is-weird-or-how-i-learned-to-embrace-eating-in-the-dark/#findComment-1268515 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveSatx Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 its an important bug but not critical if you play on default hunger Good Catch! Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/112429-lit-workplace-is-weird-or-how-i-learned-to-embrace-eating-in-the-dark/#findComment-1268552 Share on other sites More sharing options...
0xFADE Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 Sounds like something you would want to use to get those eating achievements. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/112429-lit-workplace-is-weird-or-how-i-learned-to-embrace-eating-in-the-dark/#findComment-1268579 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yank31 Posted October 6, 2019 Share Posted October 6, 2019 I've been having 5 shine bugs in each of my great halls for probably over 800 cycles /facepalm I totally did notice my dupes were having this weird hungry debuff but could not understand why, at all. They're feeding on stuffed berry, they have ample time to do so... Welp. Abyss bugs it is, then. Very good catch! Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/112429-lit-workplace-is-weird-or-how-i-learned-to-embrace-eating-in-the-dark/#findComment-1268632 Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhailRaptor Posted October 6, 2019 Share Posted October 6, 2019 20 hours ago, Red Shark said: ...something the canny Nikola avoided due to not using his dining table (despite it being assigned -- an unrelated bug, presumably). A Dupe will automatically pick an available Mess Table and assign it to themselves if they do not currently have one, just like Beds do. However, I have frequently observed that with Mess Tables, Dupes will fail to use them the first time if they pick it themselves. Following meals they do use it correctly. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/112429-lit-workplace-is-weird-or-how-i-learned-to-embrace-eating-in-the-dark/#findComment-1268682 Share on other sites More sharing options...
blash365 Posted October 6, 2019 Share Posted October 6, 2019 18 hours ago, zOldBulldog said: Good catch. How fast are the devs in fixing bugs like this? Is the effort to redesign twice worth it, or should we just wait it out? They are fast. So no worries. It's hard to make a promise for somebody else, but i'd expect the devs to include it in the next (hotfix) patch they will release. Ideally that would ship within the next week. So if you cannot wait for a week, then you should redesign.;) Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/112429-lit-workplace-is-weird-or-how-i-learned-to-embrace-eating-in-the-dark/#findComment-1268702 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Felucca Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 Has this been fixed yet? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/112429-lit-workplace-is-weird-or-how-i-learned-to-embrace-eating-in-the-dark/#findComment-1280367 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bountygiver Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 the bug is reported and marked as fixed AFTER October 4 (which is the last patch), so it will be fixed in the NEXT update. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/112429-lit-workplace-is-weird-or-how-i-learned-to-embrace-eating-in-the-dark/#findComment-1280404 Share on other sites More sharing options...
FenrirZeroZero Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 Well it would be nice if we had any Indikator WHEN the next update comes out Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/112429-lit-workplace-is-weird-or-how-i-learned-to-embrace-eating-in-the-dark/#findComment-1280785 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craigjw Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 I feed my dupes Gristle Berry, I'm not surprised that they like to eat in the dark! Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/112429-lit-workplace-is-weird-or-how-i-learned-to-embrace-eating-in-the-dark/#findComment-1280795 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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