Wx-78 rework discussion

[blacknight7890]

I think it be cool if wx's upgrade perk was more fleshed out, so instead of just eating gears to get some boring stat upgrades, you could use the gears to craft cool modules and have more unique and versatile upgrades, each with their own unique upsides, or even some downsides. Could have a certain amount of upgrade slots you can use and each upgrade uses an amount of those slots till you run out, maybe have a unique structure that refunds you all or some the upgrades for reallocation. 
Some cool upgrades could be stat upgrades (of course), but also stuff like an armored chassis for some passive natural armor, or leg augments for faster speed. they could have some downsides too, like the stat upgrades may raise one stat but lower the other 2 a bit, so upgrading all of them isn't as good as focusing on one or two. The chassis could lower your speed a bit, or the leg augments cause your hunger to drain faster. Would make him a lot more interesting to play and more versatile to a team without having just godly stats with super speed (super speed can stay probably). Wonder what other cool upgrades he could have...

[Tapirus]

Personal thought: probably the needing of many gears (after all, every player with a WX-78 needs 15 gears for a full upgrade) will be decreased in the next update and as you mentioned already, some brand new benefits could be added.

[researchlab_2]

•WX can make upgrade modules, similarly to Maxwell's shadow copies.

•Modules upgrade stats such as speed, damage, health etc.

•One can use gears to heal themselves, but not to upgrade

•There are maximum of 4 upgrade slots, and there are two tiers of each module

Idk seems unbalanced

[Alexias]

WX

+can craft machine that produce gears

-Only eat gears

[Lakurius]

Yes let's buff s tier wx

[blacknight7890]

3 hours ago, Lakurius said:

Yes let's buff s tier wx

The idea was to make it so there were other options than just OP stats, but I get what you mean, he probably needs some more downsides.

He could have a thing where system overload would short circuit some of the upgrade modules, so they don't work so long as he is charged. Not all would shut down of course, armor for example would work just as good, charged or not. That way it would give you a reason to not be charged, something we don't have yet. Though if being charged has a downside now, you should probably be able to discharge at a lighting rod so you don't just get screwed out of your upgrades for a while.

Course, he would need a much more passive downside as well, it's not everyday you are struck by lightning after all. Maybe water can also short circuit upgrades, as well as doing more damage? Or maybe rust could be an issue, making you do periodic maintenance on yourself? Maybe do the wormwood thing, with the inability to be healed by normal means, requiring special repair items? There are some good options available.

[Charsis]

Just make it more vulnerable to water and then it's ok. Fun character with good perks already, just need stronger downside, may be damage multiplier based on wetness meter, so the more full it is, the more damage WX78 take.

[blacknight7890]

3 minutes ago, Charsis said:

Just make it more vulnerable to water and then it's ok. Fun character with good perks already, just need stronger downside, may be damage multiplier based on wetness meter, so the more full it is, the more damage WX78 take.

Why not both? Have that in addition to modular upgrades.

[seffard]

Nice! It'd be a character for those who are into RPG.

[LivelySprouts]

 

On 5/6/2019 at 9:31 AM, Charsis said:

Just make it more vulnerable to water and then it's ok. Fun character with good perks already, just need stronger downside, may be damage multiplier based on wetness meter, so the more full it is, the more damage WX78 take.

What about rain "rusting" Wx-78 along with water damage, his attack speed and move speed also get slower the wetter he becomes? That sounds balanced to me.

[Canis]

2 hours ago, LivelySprouts said:

 

What about rain "rusting" Wx-78 along with water damage, his attack speed and move speed also get slower the wetter he becomes? That sounds balanced to me.

I had something along the lines of this that could actually compliment that quite well.

-Water damage taken by WX-78 is permanent. In other words, every point of damage WX takes from wetness is subtracted from his max health. Rust damage can be repaired/fixed with a craftable (that would preferably make the player go out of their way to get.)

Also for the sake of not being cheesed, WX is no longer allowed to use Booster Shots. Instead, he can heal lost max health (ie from resurrection) as if it was rain damage. (It keeps the perk in lieu of WX being a robot and not a human)

[Datanon]

imo system overload (the buff) should straight up not exist in dst because it only makes sense in single-player where you dont have a wickerbottom to make you drown in hysteria. lightning strikes just healing you at the cost of sanity already makes it interesting enough for wx

i agree about the upgrades using gears (one of them being what system overload is right now but slightly nerfed), but i dont like the idea of tiers, as i think they should be just a permanent buff, which you can have only one active at a time and can decide when you want it to be gone. he should also require more organic energy (food) to keep his 'body' working, since those modules should consume a lot of energy

[Seero]

On 5/6/2019 at 4:52 AM, Lakurius said:

Yes let's buff s tier wx

No, this is not what this post is about. "Just nerfing" characters won't cut it for most, (Look at woodie for example, he's really mediocre overall as a character, but some would argue he would be OP if they brought back his DS stats)  sometimes they need an overhaul, sometimes they need a buff and nerf at the same time, to change how that character works while still keeping there original idea in mind
 

Wx right now is pretty boring, 2 very small downsides over one big upside that allows you to have higher stats, And then theres his overcharge perk which is pretty dependent on wickerbottom right now, of course this game is meant for team work, but not in the way where you would have to ask someone to charge you every time you ran out, it's boring, annoying and not fun at all. 

His higher stats perk is just, meh, eat 15 gears, that's that's going for him right now. He's pretty boring. 

TL;DR wx needs a nerf and buff, an overhaul