Philsam Posted April 25, 2019 Share Posted April 25, 2019 Unaware of what was happening, I opened the web page and see that this forum is on fire, some Warbucks fans are in pls, and several topics about Wheeler. And I see that she received a huge buff! Ok, a little buff, but that's too much, she became the most broken character of the game, RIP WX-78, Wortox and Wicker. I saw several ideas, but divided into several topics, it would be more interesting to regroup them all here, the one that interests me the most is to remove his weapon, and give it to Warbucks (if it comes back), or so to lower his stats. Give your ideas, it will also clean a little forum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mooagain Posted April 25, 2019 Share Posted April 25, 2019 All she really needs is less items in the 100 damage category for the gun. And as a downside, she should have a faster hunger drain when the inventory is full. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Computer-7 Posted April 25, 2019 Share Posted April 25, 2019 14 minutes ago, Philsam said: RIP WX-78 wat 400 hp 50% speed boost gears lightning heals a ton of health probably the best ruins rusher in ds thanks to - eatting gears - lightning from psudoscience stations - speed boost lets him outrun shadow creatures without a walking cane - doesn't need to hold a light item to see freeing up your head or hand slot - high health makes him hard to kill in every dlc he has a way to get a ton of overcharge so if you know what your doing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darchfiend Posted April 25, 2019 Share Posted April 25, 2019 +Reduce dodge cooldown to 1 second. +Inventory size: 12 slots. +Dodge cooldown increases by 0.5s every 4 items (Max 3s). +Remove speed boost while wearing backpack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philsam Posted April 25, 2019 Author Share Posted April 25, 2019 14 minutes ago, Computer-7 said: Cut I agree that Wx is OP, and with everything you said. But I feel that Wheeler has become better than him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viktor234 Posted April 25, 2019 Share Posted April 25, 2019 Revert most of her recent changes Keep the movement speed boost (+20-10%) Reverse the gun damage, increase the shooting speed by ~25% and buff only the high damage munition a bit She should not be able to dodge AoE attacks (no invincibility when dashing towards, for example: a Deerclops) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theukon-dos Posted April 25, 2019 Share Posted April 25, 2019 well first off, They need to revert the changes to the pewmatic horn. Dealing the same damage as blow darts for Stone cheap is insane. Though in exchange, I would be enclined to see special effects added to certain ammunition, Such as Nightmare fuel causing effects similar to ghost possession in DST, and bee mines releasing a swarm of bees on impact to attack the hit enemy. Second, and I've said this before but I'll say it again, Instead of rust having an inherit 5 fewer inventory slots, She should be penalized for using backpacks, likely in a speed reduction and removing the ability to dodge. This way, -We keep the inventory managment side of things -it makes sense with the "travels lighter than most" quirk -instead of enforcing the backpack meta, it discourages it, and might just make some people use the many other body slot items. And While I haven't played her myself, and don't particularly want to because Wagstaff, I will say that the idea of Wheeler's Snag was interesting, and had potential to make for an interesting character. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hx380 Posted April 25, 2019 Share Posted April 25, 2019 Nerf airhorn dmg Hunger penalty for dashes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoscopeFelix Posted April 25, 2019 Share Posted April 25, 2019 Replace her entirely with Warbucks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JosePapp Posted April 25, 2019 Share Posted April 25, 2019 This is like the 4th post with the same topic. We need to keep them forums clean. Here's the link to some of the previous ones (including mine) https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/105345-make-wheeler-have-lower-health-but-keep-her-buffs/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philsam Posted April 25, 2019 Author Share Posted April 25, 2019 5 minutes ago, JosePapp said: This is like the 4th post with the same topic. We need to keep them forums clean. Here's the link to some of the previous ones (including mine) Sorry :/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charsis Posted April 25, 2019 Share Posted April 25, 2019 With new buffed perks, her character having only 10 pocket slot seem balanced. Permanent change, but she can move faster and has very powerful ranged weapon that uses almost anything as bullet. That downside should come back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owlrust Posted April 25, 2019 Share Posted April 25, 2019 What if she has a temperature mechanic to her? Never seen that in a character quite before. For example, perhaps after she reaches a certain heat threshold she suffers effects similar to that of the Humid Season and will begin to drop items from her inventory randomly until she is either cooled down or has dropped all of her items to "lighten the load". I'm trying to think of interesting downsides that aren't straight up stat penalties tbh. Quotes could include but are not limited to: "Too hot to hold..", "Gonna put this right here for a sec..", "*huff* I gotta lighten the load a bit", etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mooagain Posted April 25, 2019 Share Posted April 25, 2019 1 hour ago, Owlrus98 said: What if she has a temperature mechanic to her? Never seen that in a character quite before. For example, perhaps after she reaches a certain heat threshold she suffers effects similar to that of the Humid Season and will begin to drop items from her inventory randomly until she is either cooled down or has dropped all of her items to "lighten the load". I'm trying to think of interesting downsides that aren't straight up stat penalties tbh. Quotes could include but are not limited to: "Too hot to hold..", "Gonna put this right here for a sec..", "*huff* I gotta lighten the load a bit", etc. But she is from hamlet, and there are no temperatures in hamlet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JosePapp Posted April 25, 2019 Share Posted April 25, 2019 4 hours ago, Philsam said: Sorry :/ Didn't mean to be mean,No pun intended. Just wanted to point that out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philsam Posted April 25, 2019 Author Share Posted April 25, 2019 15 minutes ago, JosePapp said: Didn't mean to be mean,No pun intended. Just wanted to point that out. I know Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hx380 Posted April 25, 2019 Share Posted April 25, 2019 I would also suggest to remove double dash bug Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scrimbles Posted April 25, 2019 Share Posted April 25, 2019 80 HP Keep her bonus movement speed, but make it so she moves slower when wearing body/hat items. Nerf the gun back down. Maybe nerf her melee damage like Wendy? Her compass is a fun tool, and is REALLY useful in Shipwrecked, her dodge is a bit on the OP side, and having bonus movement speed should ALWAYS come with a catch, otherwise it just outright breaks fights by making kiting way too easy. She needs some downsides, if for no other reason than shes WAY too strong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
. . . Posted April 25, 2019 Share Posted April 25, 2019 2 hours ago, Hx380 said: I would also suggest to remove double dash bug Personally, I feel this would make her much less fun to play as . If any nerf should be applied to her dodge I would say make the 2nd dodge you preform while in the 1st dodge not grant you invincibility. Removing the double dodge bug/feature or making dodging cost hunger will limit the usage of her dodge which makes her unique in the first place thus leading to a more plain and boring experience because the dodge would be inferior in all ways compared to doing plain ol' boring kiting with her speed boost making using it pointless.. Of course that is just my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ressayez Posted April 26, 2019 Share Posted April 26, 2019 The new Wheeler is a lot of fun, but her stats, particularly her health and the damage from her gun could really use some tweaking. The dodge, speed boost, compass and shooter make her a very strong character, but I see no reason for her gun to do this much damage, it feels cheap. A ranged weapon that takes anything as ammo and lacks durability is such a powerful item, they really overdid it with 50-100 damage a pop. I’ll miss not being able to slaughter monkeys en masse, but its really for the best that the shooter’s damage is reduced. I won’t miss the lack of inventory slots though, it was an awful downside. I appreciate the move to encourage players to cut down on the hoarding without stripping them of slots, a good compromise! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaruahHewitt Posted April 26, 2019 Share Posted April 26, 2019 I love the idea of lowered base melee damage Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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