Xuhybrid Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 Is it possible to store oil using the over pressure exploit? I've avoided using it until now because it's obviously not intended. I figured i'd try it anyway, but the trouble is i don't know what i can use that's heavier than oil. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/102035-unlimited-oil-storage/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
beowulf2010 Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 9 minutes ago, Xuhybrid said: Is it possible to store oil using the over pressure exploit? I've avoided using it until now because it's obviously not intended. I figured i'd try it anyway, but the trouble is i don't know what i can use that's heavier than oil. Think to opposite way. Put the vent in a notch at the top and let gas ot petroleum stay under the 1,000kg max pressure of a liquid vent. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/102035-unlimited-oil-storage/#findComment-1145576 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xuhybrid Posted January 22, 2019 Author Share Posted January 22, 2019 Ah of course, thanks! Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/102035-unlimited-oil-storage/#findComment-1145577 Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishoutofwater Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 easier using gas to cover the vent, just build a room for pump and vent at the top. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/102035-unlimited-oil-storage/#findComment-1145578 Share on other sites More sharing options...
beowulf2010 Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 9 minutes ago, Xuhybrid said: Ah of course, thanks! Also, remember to use airflow tiles or manual/airlock doors as they won't break from pressure. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/102035-unlimited-oil-storage/#findComment-1145579 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saturnus Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 While you are considering which liquid is lighter remember that all gases are lighter than any liquid so you only need to trap a pocket of gas over the vent to compress any liquid. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/102035-unlimited-oil-storage/#findComment-1145622 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craigjw Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 I made a petrol storage using airflow tiles, but placed metal tiles all around the airflow tiles. At around 50,000 kg of petrol, the metal tiles broke and some petrol leaked out of the airflow tiles. Did I make the mistake of building metal tiles around it and will it work fine so long as I do not do this? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/102035-unlimited-oil-storage/#findComment-1145637 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xuhybrid Posted January 22, 2019 Author Share Posted January 22, 2019 28 minutes ago, Craigjw said: I made a petrol storage using airflow tiles, but placed metal tiles all around the airflow tiles. At around 50,000 kg of petrol, the metal tiles broke and some petrol leaked out of the airflow tiles. Did I make the mistake of building metal tiles around it and will it work fine so long as I do not do this? Only airflow or doors will work. It's not the airflow itself that prevents overpressure, it's the gas inside it. As for doors, well they ignore pressure. 3 hours ago, Saturnus said: While you are considering which liquid is lighter remember that all gases are lighter than any liquid so you only need to trap a pocket of gas over the vent to compress any liquid. Not sure how you'd prevent the gas from leaving. I assume this method requires doors to be used? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/102035-unlimited-oil-storage/#findComment-1145639 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saturnus Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 15 minutes ago, Xuhybrid said: Only airflow or doors will work. It's not the airflow itself that prevents overpressure, it's the gas inside it. As for doors, well they ignore pressure. Not sure how you'd prevent the gas from leaving. I assume this method requires doors to be used? Not necessarily. You only need to trap a gas, any gas and literally any mount of gas, in the actual tile where the vent is, so you can just have three regular tiles surrounding the vent to the sides and top, and the rest can be air flow tiles or doors as you prefer. You'll quickly find this method is far superior to the oil locked vent as you can build it anywhere that is not a complete vacuum, and not have to bother about priming it as there will automatically always be a pocket of air trapped over the vent. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/102035-unlimited-oil-storage/#findComment-1145642 Share on other sites More sharing options...
des06des Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 Oooooh, thanks Saturnus, no more waiting for oil to construct the infinite tanks, maybe 100 cicles sooner to begin with rockets!!! Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/102035-unlimited-oil-storage/#findComment-1145675 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yunru Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 If you can spare the dupe time, bottling it allows for infinite mass storage. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/102035-unlimited-oil-storage/#findComment-1145691 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neotuck Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 3 hours ago, Saturnus said: Not necessarily. You only need to trap a gas, any gas and literally any mount of gas, in the actual tile where the vent is, so you can just have three regular tiles surrounding the vent to the sides and top, and the rest can be air flow tiles or doors as you prefer. You'll quickly find this method is far superior to the oil locked vent as you can build it anywhere that is not a complete vacuum, and not have to bother about priming it as there will automatically always be a pocket of air trapped over the vent. Is it possible to do this with gas storage too? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/102035-unlimited-oil-storage/#findComment-1145698 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saturnus Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 13 minutes ago, Neotuck said: Is it possible to do this with gas storage too? No. And to some degree yes. The problem is that from my observations, and mind you my normal laptop is in for repairs so I can't currently validate it, gas tiles gets deleted if the pressure differential is a factor of 1:10^5 or higher. As with liquid locked gas vents there's also a chance that the gas over the vent gets deleted if the gas does not have another tile it can move into which means that effectively it can only work, in the long term, if there's two gases stored in the same tank and those have an approximate pressure parity. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/102035-unlimited-oil-storage/#findComment-1145706 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SamLogan Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 14 hours ago, Xuhybrid said: Is it possible to store oil using the over pressure exploit? I've avoided using it until now because it's obviously not intended. I figured i'd try it anyway, but the trouble is i don't know what i can use that's heavier than oil. Yes, like any liquid : Given you can have only material on a tile, if you put some gas in front the liquid vent, the liquid can't go up and will have to accumulate. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/102035-unlimited-oil-storage/#findComment-1145709 Share on other sites More sharing options...
KittenIsAGeek Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 5 hours ago, Neotuck said: Is it possible to do this with gas storage too? For infinitely storing a gas, you use packet of liquid over the vent rather than a packet of gas. So for infinitely storing a liquid, have the vent at the top in a pocket of trapped gas. For infinitely storing a gas, have the vent at the bottom, with a bit of liquid over it. Spoiler Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/102035-unlimited-oil-storage/#findComment-1145885 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saturnus Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 22 minutes ago, KittenIsAGeek said: For infinitely storing a gas, you use packet of liquid over the vent rather than a packet of gas. So for infinitely storing a liquid, have the vent at the top in a pocket of trapped gas. For infinitely storing a gas, have the vent at the bottom, with a bit of liquid over it. Reveal hidden contents Not to be pedantic but @Neotuck most definitely knew that already. What he actually asked was if you could compress a gas with another gas. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/102035-unlimited-oil-storage/#findComment-1145902 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craigjw Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 16 hours ago, Saturnus said: Not to be pedantic but @Neotuck most definitely knew that already. What he actually asked was if you could compress a gas with another gas. If you find a dupe with flatulence, can you compress the gas using the dupe's farts as the compressing gas? It might take some time though. I would like to see a flatulent dupe gas compressor, just for the giggles. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/102035-unlimited-oil-storage/#findComment-1146234 Share on other sites More sharing options...
KittenIsAGeek Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 4 hours ago, Craigjw said: If you find a dupe with flatulence, can you compress the gas using the dupe's farts as the compressing gas? It might take some time though. I would like to see a flatulent dupe gas compressor, just for the giggles. Possibly. I dug out a room for my generators and it had a small amount of chlorine in it. Over time, I've noticed that because the chlorine rises above the CO2, a single air-flow tile at the bottom has compressed the CO2. Spoiler Just to the right of the storage bin is a little cloud of chlorine. The total in the room is about 1000g. As CO2 from the generators drifts into the corner, it falls into the airflow tile below the chlorine. The oxygen pressure in the rest of the room is only about 1600g. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/102035-unlimited-oil-storage/#findComment-1146379 Share on other sites More sharing options...
RonEmpire Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 Well- really you could just easily setup a room full of liquid tanks reservoir . and deconstruct them all and reconstruct them to fill up again. by deconstructing you get the oil in bottled form. this will allow you dupes to manually deliver them wherever and whenever you want without having to setup pipes or just leave them on the ground as unlimited storage. having a high pressure unlimited oil room is just too risky and asking for a lot of trouble. especially when you decide to crack open a wall and it will just flood your base. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/102035-unlimited-oil-storage/#findComment-1146402 Share on other sites More sharing options...
KittenIsAGeek Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 4 hours ago, KittenIsAGeek said: Possibly. I dug out a room for my generators and it had a small amount of chlorine in it. Over time, I've noticed that because the chlorine rises above the CO2, a single air-flow tile at the bottom has compressed the CO2. Reveal hidden contents Just to the right of the storage bin is a little cloud of chlorine. The total in the room is about 1000g. As CO2 from the generators drifts into the corner, it falls into the airflow tile below the chlorine. The oxygen pressure in the rest of the room is only about 1600g. I'm replying to myself because this finally broke. CO2 covered two tiles over the air vent briefly and CO2 "spilled" out into the room. The pressure under the vent is ~1900, roughly the same as the oxygen pressure at the top of the room. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/102035-unlimited-oil-storage/#findComment-1146467 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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