Xadhoom Posted August 31, 2018 Share Posted August 31, 2018 i noticed that now i can't use "space scanner" and scan trough window tiles, and the telescope will have reduced visibility behind window tiles. so the only way to protect your equipment from becoming overheated from debris is to clear it away before opening blast doors, making them completely useless. however... those restrictions do NOT apply to solar panels, making them the BEST option to use as a defensive structure to meteors as they wont get destroyed. just disable auto repair on the solar panels and you have perfect shields. so ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToiDiaeRaRIsuOy Posted August 31, 2018 Share Posted August 31, 2018 wait... solar panels don't get damage from meteors?!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saturnus Posted August 31, 2018 Share Posted August 31, 2018 10 minutes ago, ToiDiaeRaRIsuOy said: wait... solar panels don't get damage from meteors?!? They take damage but they're not destroyed. And nothing gets through them. Like steam turbine they make the best meteor shields there is but at a much lower material cost than steam turbines. Even better. You can set oil wells to be built on top of them. The oil wells will never get built obviously but they dupes will dig out any debris on top of the solar panels clearing them automatically. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToiDiaeRaRIsuOy Posted August 31, 2018 Share Posted August 31, 2018 2 minutes ago, Saturnus said: They take damage but they're not destroyed. And nothing gets through them. Like steam turbine they make the best meteor shields there is but at a much lower material cost than steam turbines. Even better. You can set oil wells to be built on top of them. They'll never get built obviously but they dupes will dig out any debris on top of them clearing them automatically. Oh, ok. I was wondering because I am getting near my own project of putting down solar panels, for power, and this sounded like there was no need to protect them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saturnus Posted August 31, 2018 Share Posted August 31, 2018 7 minutes ago, ToiDiaeRaRIsuOy said: Oh, ok. I was wondering because I am getting near my own project of putting down solar panels, for power, and this sounded like there was no need to protect them. The solar panels is the protection. And solar panel let 100% light through so just build the solar panels below the protecting level of solar panels. I forgot one thing. Rockets fly right through shielding solar panels without harming them. They can't more destroyed and won't melt either so no need to make bunker doors or anything silly like that in your game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToiDiaeRaRIsuOy Posted August 31, 2018 Share Posted August 31, 2018 21 minutes ago, Saturnus said: The solar panels is the protection. And solar panel let 100% light through so just build the solar panels below the protecting level of solar panels. I forgot one thing. Rockets fly right through shielding solar panels without harming them. They can't more destroyed and won't melt either so no need to make bunker doors or anything silly like that in your game. I do wish to play the game as intended. Knowing Klei they will fix that sooner rather than later. I was simply wondering if they perhaps made a conscious decision to have solar panels not to take damage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FutureJohny Posted August 31, 2018 Share Posted August 31, 2018 Do the glass tiles in RU block only the telescope, or also the meteor scanner? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psusi Posted August 31, 2018 Share Posted August 31, 2018 Why the hell don't solar panels block light? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saturnus Posted August 31, 2018 Share Posted August 31, 2018 1 minute ago, psusi said: Why the hell don't solar panels block light? Because Klei? I don't know. They should at least block some light if not all but apparently Klei thinks that solar panels are magical things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exa Posted August 31, 2018 Share Posted August 31, 2018 Protect solar panels with other sacrified solar panels and auto dig regolith with totally unrelated building order yeah, invest on this build because this is gonna TOTALLY stay like that forever. garantee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saturnus Posted August 31, 2018 Share Posted August 31, 2018 11 minutes ago, Exa said: Protect solar panels with other sacrified solar panels and auto dig regolith with totally unrelated building order yeah, invest on this build because this is gonna TOTALLY stay like that forever. garantee I don't think anyone claimed it wouldn't get nerfed at some point. Or maybe never, who knows. I think that line of thinking symbolizes the confusion for people who see exploit based builds. When I do them and showcase them on the forum, the whole point of it is to focus on the ridiculousness of the exploit so it may, or may not, get some deserved attention. Bug reporting is really only an alternate stream that I don't think the devs even cares about really. They see what their metric data tells them people have trouble with and if more people use an exploit they see it that way. It is certainly obvious the devs do not play the game at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xadhoom Posted August 31, 2018 Author Share Posted August 31, 2018 43 minutes ago, Saturnus said: Bug reporting is really only an alternate stream that I don't think the devs even cares about really. They see what their metric data tells them people have trouble with and if more people use an exploit they see it that way. It is certainly obvious the devs do not play the game at all. i disagree, just yesterday i reported a bug that was fixed just a bit after. however, they need to take into consideration how to fix some exploits so as not to cause other problems. that said, it would be easy to fix the solar panel exploit, by simply not allowing it to let sunlight trough, then the usefulness of the build i showed becomes really low, other then to protect you from meteor erosion of your biomes. the window tiles, REALLY should be more transparent then solar panels at least and not block the sensor nor telescope, else there is no way to protect the equipment from overheating other then with A LOT of micromanagement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheScaryOne Posted August 31, 2018 Share Posted August 31, 2018 1 hour ago, Saturnus said: It is certainly obvious the devs do not play the game at all. I'm beginning to wonder if any of the games I play that are still in dev are ever played by the devs. Just watched the A17 stream for 7DaysToDie, and it's like the dev doesn't even know how to computer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sasza22 Posted August 31, 2018 Share Posted August 31, 2018 10 minutes ago, TheScaryOne said: I'm beginning to wonder if any of the games I play that are still in dev are ever played by the devs. Why would they need to do that? They outsourced the hard work by making the game early access. We play it for them and report anything that`s wrong. And we even pay them for that. No but seriously with us doing the testing there`s no need for a dev to play a full game. Everything can be done by testing the reported bugs in debug. Especially how much time it takes to make a late game base. Now imagine tracking down a bug in the lategame with slow speed on. Nightmare. It would take several days to even get to the proper point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heckubis Posted August 31, 2018 Share Posted August 31, 2018 1 hour ago, TheScaryOne said: I'm beginning to wonder if any of the games I play that are still in dev are ever played by the devs. Just watched the A17 stream for 7DaysToDie, and it's like the dev doesn't even know how to computer. i laughed so hard when the pig killed him. its a one shot from even the worst bow so long as its a head shot any other attack will almost certainly get you killed. being one of the main developers and making that kind of mistake shows how little knowledge of the game he has. it shows he has only ever really played it in developer mode with all the bells and whistles turned on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
babba Posted August 31, 2018 Share Posted August 31, 2018 Game development is a lot of work, twice I had staff of 100 people. Now its just playing games as a consumer and relaxing, much better Its a little team, step by step we are getting more joy... I hope they give us sparks, ignition, combustion, explosions & firefighting + the whole nuclear reactor arsenal to toy with someday I still havent built a rocket, I love what I have seen on Utube about it. So I guess I need to dig in to blast doors again a bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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