LiveYourDreams Posted June 11, 2018 Share Posted June 11, 2018 Hello, I'm on the beta release and started a map the other day. I found an iron volcano pretty early on. I blocked it off with abysallite and just let it run. I had it closed off with a mechanical door.. eventually that door melted (not what i expected lol). So I had to close it off with insulated tile. It is so hot in there now I'm not sure what to do. It has liquid magma, iron and gold all just running around in there. No machines are going to be able to stay in there long enough for me to work with it. What can I do? Is pumping some water in there an option? Not even sure my dupes can go in there. Note I have all research and exosuits available. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/91668-iron-volcano-room-already-3600-degrees-f-what-can-i-do/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kabrute Posted June 11, 2018 Share Posted June 11, 2018 you can dig the corner tile and tile above it out to provide a step and install a vent into the chamber without going inside... Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/91668-iron-volcano-room-already-3600-degrees-f-what-can-i-do/#findComment-1045533 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gurgel Posted June 11, 2018 Share Posted June 11, 2018 I think you should flood it with water and I am not talking about pumping it in. Find some large enough body of water above and dig a tunnel. There also needs to be space for all the steam to escape. Once you have cooled it down enough, covering the volcano to the top with water will shut it down and then you have time to re-engineer that set-up. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/91668-iron-volcano-room-already-3600-degrees-f-what-can-i-do/#findComment-1045534 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kabrute Posted June 11, 2018 Share Posted June 11, 2018 then fill that ladder way up with water....... rebuild the entree way below to have an exosuit dock and waterlock just 2 steps down then back up keeps the water from flooding back out. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/91668-iron-volcano-room-already-3600-degrees-f-what-can-i-do/#findComment-1045535 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neotuck Posted June 11, 2018 Share Posted June 11, 2018 should have capped it when you found it so it wouldn't erupt until after you had a way to safely handle the iron Now the only option I see is let it cap itself in iron then let it cool Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/91668-iron-volcano-room-already-3600-degrees-f-what-can-i-do/#findComment-1045536 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kabrute Posted June 11, 2018 Share Posted June 11, 2018 I would put the water lock in below the fill the ladder way up with pwater as it will take more heat and be cleaned by steaming Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/91668-iron-volcano-room-already-3600-degrees-f-what-can-i-do/#findComment-1045537 Share on other sites More sharing options...
yoakenashi Posted June 11, 2018 Share Posted June 11, 2018 Duplicants in exosuits can withstand being submerged in magma for a short periods of time, so don’t create a ton of tasks in there all at once. If it were me, I would build an area below the geyser room and allow the iron drop into it. There you could cover it with oil (to make natural gas) or water (to make steam and perhaps power a steam generator). Also, always keep in mind polluted water has one of highest specific heats in the game. It would absorb that heat rather quickly. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/91668-iron-volcano-room-already-3600-degrees-f-what-can-i-do/#findComment-1045542 Share on other sites More sharing options...
LiveYourDreams Posted June 11, 2018 Author Share Posted June 11, 2018 Lots of great solutions htere. I will try them. Thanks guys! Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/91668-iron-volcano-room-already-3600-degrees-f-what-can-i-do/#findComment-1045560 Share on other sites More sharing options...
eggsvbacon Posted June 11, 2018 Share Posted June 11, 2018 45 minutes ago, Neotuck said: should have capped it when you found it so it wouldn't erupt until after you had a way to safely handle the iron Now the only option I see is let it cap itself in iron then let it cool How can you cap it when you can't build over it any more? I can't see how building tiles around it would help if you haven't researched insulated tiles or whatever. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/91668-iron-volcano-room-already-3600-degrees-f-what-can-i-do/#findComment-1045600 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neotuck Posted June 11, 2018 Share Posted June 11, 2018 1 minute ago, eggsvbacon said: How can you cap it when you can't build over it any more? I can't see how building tiles around it would help if you haven't researched insulated tiles or whatever. that is how you cap it, make sure the iron can't flow any where and it caps itself Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/91668-iron-volcano-room-already-3600-degrees-f-what-can-i-do/#findComment-1045608 Share on other sites More sharing options...
avc15 Posted June 12, 2018 Share Posted June 12, 2018 another thing you can do is: (1) wait until it goes dormant (2) block in whatever standing liquid or hot metals with insulated abyssalite tiles (3) dig out the top venting the hot gases into colder gases (clean this up later) (4) re-build your volcano chamber to be a bit taller, and install a gas pump to vacuum the whole thing out. Use a waterlock or transit tube to let dupes in and out from this point forward so it stays always at vacuum. (the chamber doesn't have to be quite cooled to 125 before you start pumping, you might just have to rebuild the pump a couple times) (make sure your entryway and any walkways to it, as well as the pump, have at least 1 tile space separating from top of the volcano, also that any surface that could touch molten metal is made of insulated abyssalite tile, this way they never come into contact with anything hot. The volcano stops erupting first) (5) dig out the insulated tile you blocked off the molten metals with, and then have at Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/91668-iron-volcano-room-already-3600-degrees-f-what-can-i-do/#findComment-1045805 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex_D Posted June 12, 2018 Share Posted June 12, 2018 And have a three door airlock made of wolframite, like this: Spoiler If you need to enter the room frequently put the automation stuff on the inside so when the hot air escapes it will not heat the automation items after the door closes. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/91668-iron-volcano-room-already-3600-degrees-f-what-can-i-do/#findComment-1045872 Share on other sites More sharing options...
LiveYourDreams Posted June 12, 2018 Author Share Posted June 12, 2018 @Alex_DWhaaaa. use wolframite for a hot room? I was always saving it for cold rooms. hmm. i guess it serves the same purpose. for some reason i was thinking wolframite didn't do well in hot temps or could break with it. It doesn't have an "overheat temperature" listing on it so I thought gold was better. I have to figure out Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/91668-iron-volcano-room-already-3600-degrees-f-what-can-i-do/#findComment-1045926 Share on other sites More sharing options...
0xFADE Posted June 12, 2018 Share Posted June 12, 2018 Suits will melt down around 1500c right? Instead of trying to flood it you could build a heat transfer edge with metal tile and a wolframite door in between to turn on and off. Then you can do all sorts of nice things with that heat like boiling polluted water or oil. That will also cool down the inside of the room till you use up the heat and can get in to deal with it properly. 2 minutes ago, strawberrygirl said: @Alex_DWhaaaa. use wolframite for a hot room? I was always saving it for cold rooms. hmm. i guess it serves the same purpose. for some reason i was thinking wolframite didn't do well in hot temps or could break with it. It doesn't have an "overheat temperature" listing on it so I thought gold was better. I have to figure out Gold is actually better in cold rooms because it melts at around 1000c wolframite will withstand all the super hot temps so it is more valuable. Although it will only withstand 3000c so you might be too hot but it should absorb and transfer enough heat out before that is a problem. I only mean gold is better for cold areas because you would want to save the wolframite for the hot stuff. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/91668-iron-volcano-room-already-3600-degrees-f-what-can-i-do/#findComment-1045927 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex_D Posted June 12, 2018 Share Posted June 12, 2018 2 minutes ago, strawberrygirl said: Whaaaa. use wolframite for a hot room? Well, any material that won't melt with the heat of your particular volcano temperature will suffice. The middle door opens 1 sec (the filter delay) after it closes, creating a void and thus insulating the whole thing. Same thing applies to the automation items' metal, if you choose to put them on the hot side (inside). Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/91668-iron-volcano-room-already-3600-degrees-f-what-can-i-do/#findComment-1045929 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLance Posted June 12, 2018 Share Posted June 12, 2018 Wolframite and Tungsten are your best friends. Neither melt regardless of volcano, I would suggest like the others, wait until its dormant. Dump a tonne of water on it eventually the water will overpower it, dig out everything and apply the set up you are after. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/91668-iron-volcano-room-already-3600-degrees-f-what-can-i-do/#findComment-1046001 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TerTerro Posted June 12, 2018 Share Posted June 12, 2018 Thats so cool, to have superheated room Nice Also if you into beta branch with cosmic upgrade, you can send gasses out into space to disapear and heat problem solved? Or Send in polluted water and let hot gas escape into space or use in steam generators Now i want to make such superheated room lol Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/91668-iron-volcano-room-already-3600-degrees-f-what-can-i-do/#findComment-1046148 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oozinator Posted June 12, 2018 Share Posted June 12, 2018 Restart base, or use debug to fix.. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/91668-iron-volcano-room-already-3600-degrees-f-what-can-i-do/#findComment-1046219 Share on other sites More sharing options...
LiveYourDreams Posted June 12, 2018 Author Share Posted June 12, 2018 7 hours ago, TerTerro said: Thats so cool, to have superheated room Nice Also if you into beta branch with cosmic upgrade, you can send gasses out into space to disapear and heat problem solved? Or Send in polluted water and let hot gas escape into space or use in steam generators Now i want to make such superheated room lol LOL . Yea i am thinking of possibilities but I haven't dealt with this room yet. I had other issues that needed taken care of. 100 or so cycles later there is even more molten liquid. The room is halfway full of it. I'm going to be very very careful. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/91668-iron-volcano-room-already-3600-degrees-f-what-can-i-do/#findComment-1047473 Share on other sites More sharing options...
0xFADE Posted June 12, 2018 Share Posted June 12, 2018 You can go in on the side very carefully and bleed the heat out. Imagine putting a large heat sink of tungsten and or ingenious rock tiles next to it. You don't have to breach that wall till the heat sink is done. You only need to deconstruct one tile to let the inside contact the door and then seal above/below the door to keep the heat in. It should take awhile but the heat will get transferred in to the buffer to make everything else more manageable. Imagine that is your current wall. For example purposes i'll use insulated tiles to show abyssalite walls and regular tiles as igneous rock. This is a heat sink of whatever size up next to the existing wall you want to breach. The last step you dismantle one of the connection points to the start of the buffer and finish the wall to stop the heat from pouring out through the initial contact. That will pull heat out of the room and in to the heat sink averaging the whole thing. You might need a larger heat sink. Igneous rock will melt down at around 1500 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/91668-iron-volcano-room-already-3600-degrees-f-what-can-i-do/#findComment-1047657 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neotuck Posted June 13, 2018 Share Posted June 13, 2018 @strawberrygirl I posted a guide that might help, feel free to check it out Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/91668-iron-volcano-room-already-3600-degrees-f-what-can-i-do/#findComment-1048558 Share on other sites More sharing options...
LiveYourDreams Posted June 13, 2018 Author Share Posted June 13, 2018 5 minutes ago, Neotuck said: @strawberrygirl I posted a guide that might help, feel free to check it out Thanks that is really sweet of you! I'll check it out. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/91668-iron-volcano-room-already-3600-degrees-f-what-can-i-do/#findComment-1048561 Share on other sites More sharing options...
LiveYourDreams Posted June 18, 2018 Author Share Posted June 18, 2018 So here is an update... I'm going to try and harness this room for steam. I've already built a steam room to the right. The only thing I'm stuck with now is getting the automated doors to work the right way (open shut in right sequence etc). Anyone have the automation layout for this? Also does anyone see this going horribly wrong ? LOL I have an insane amount of PH20 to work with so i was going to drop it in there when I need it for more steam. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/91668-iron-volcano-room-already-3600-degrees-f-what-can-i-do/#findComment-1051818 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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