S19TealPenguin Posted May 14, 2018 Share Posted May 14, 2018 Edit: This post is only talking about if ONI existed IRL. I am not arguing for implementation of features. Duplicants either have super-human biology or they should be dead within several cycles. Why? Because of the air that they breathe. They are only happy breathing Oxygen. But isn't Oxygen good? Yes. However, these dupes are living in 100% Oxygen. While O2 is good in small doses, it can be damaging to us if we are exposed to too much. I'll let Wikipedia explain Oxygen Toxicity. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oxygen_toxicity Also, at 100% oxygen, fires could start very easily, and be very hard to put out. Considering that the default wires aren't insulated, any small circuit problems could start a Very dangerous fire. Additionally, if you have ever sent a dupe into a Caustic biome, you may as well have signed their death warrant. Chlorine is very toxic to humans, even in small amounts. And you've just sent a dupe into cave with 100% chlorine gas. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/90798-duplicants-should-be-dead/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishoutofwater Posted May 14, 2018 Share Posted May 14, 2018 they are clones from printing pod, maybe not entirely human, they probably have enhanced synthetic nano-technology lungs. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/90798-duplicants-should-be-dead/#findComment-1035172 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neotuck Posted May 14, 2018 Share Posted May 14, 2018 Who said duplicates are humans? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/90798-duplicants-should-be-dead/#findComment-1035178 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greep Posted May 14, 2018 Share Posted May 14, 2018 Dupes can survive about a day fully submerged in magma. You're complaining about this? XD Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/90798-duplicants-should-be-dead/#findComment-1035198 Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhailRaptor Posted May 14, 2018 Share Posted May 14, 2018 So it never occurred to you that the are Duplicants, and not humans? That they might have biology that differs from ours? Or that perhaps they, and the asteroid they inhabit, are not real? That it's all part of a grand simulation? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/90798-duplicants-should-be-dead/#findComment-1035203 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLance Posted May 14, 2018 Share Posted May 14, 2018 They can hold their breath for a long time, can be exposed to high temperature, low temperature, vacuums. All with little to no discomfort. They also are made up of genetic ooze. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/90798-duplicants-should-be-dead/#findComment-1035213 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gurgel Posted May 14, 2018 Share Posted May 14, 2018 Dupes also consume about 10 times as much Oxygen as an average human, while being half as heavy, And they fall compulsively asleep every 10 Minutes. So Humans might not be a good analogy.... As to fires, don't give Klei ideas Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/90798-duplicants-should-be-dead/#findComment-1035215 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hellshound38 Posted May 14, 2018 Share Posted May 14, 2018 Or maybe the Dev making the Earth simulator in the real world attempted to add multiplayer to his world sim and it messed up all his gas calculations and he said screw it, and that is why we can't breathe 100% oxygen. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/90798-duplicants-should-be-dead/#findComment-1035324 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BT_20 Posted May 14, 2018 Share Posted May 14, 2018 Mixing,Burning, and oxidation don’t exist in the ONI universe so I don’t understand your argument I mean almost none of the reactions between elements work as the would in real life but there’s nothing wrong with that rather than complain you should accept that oni isn’t the same as the real world. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/90798-duplicants-should-be-dead/#findComment-1035335 Share on other sites More sharing options...
0xFADE Posted May 14, 2018 Share Posted May 14, 2018 Gotta pick your battles man. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/90798-duplicants-should-be-dead/#findComment-1035338 Share on other sites More sharing options...
NurdRage Posted May 14, 2018 Share Posted May 14, 2018 The absolute pressure of oxygen might be low enough to avoid the long-term effects of oxygen toxicity. As long as they maintain the same partial pressure. Early spacecraft used pure oxygen atmospheres since it was easier to maintain. Pressures were kept between 5-9 psi rather than 15 psi as on earth. But eventually they switched over to compositions close to earth standard (21% O2, 79% N2). Turns out that at low pressure it's harder to ventilate the air and maintain equipment performance. After all, all equipment is designed on earth, at normal pressure. Since it didn't require too much more engineering, both soviet and american space programs eventually switched over. Spacesuits though still use the low pressure approach. Just because it's easier to move around without the spacesuit blowing up like a balloon. Interestingly enough, one of the big problems with low pressure is heating and cooling. Low pressure air is not as good at heat transfer (both conductive and convective) as normal or high pressure air. So thermal design of equipment was an issue. Maybe the problems with heat management in ONI is because the air pressure is crap. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/90798-duplicants-should-be-dead/#findComment-1035352 Share on other sites More sharing options...
dinosaur1831 Posted May 15, 2018 Share Posted May 15, 2018 I think it's implied that the oxygen also has nitrogen in it which would bring the percentage of oxygen way, way down. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/90798-duplicants-should-be-dead/#findComment-1035440 Share on other sites More sharing options...
CherryHavoc Posted May 15, 2018 Share Posted May 15, 2018 I don't think anybody has mentioned yet how they only need 1000 calories a day, while an actual human would need at least twice as much. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/90798-duplicants-should-be-dead/#findComment-1035526 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoribundEidolon Posted May 15, 2018 Share Posted May 15, 2018 Pressure is decent based on ideal gas laws. 1 kg of O2 per cubic meter at 23 Celsius is about 76 kPa or 11 psi. Assuming I did my math right. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/90798-duplicants-should-be-dead/#findComment-1035534 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kroning Posted May 15, 2018 Share Posted May 15, 2018 You are right. They are dead and making their after-life trip. You are next. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/90798-duplicants-should-be-dead/#findComment-1035550 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jigggy2000 Posted May 15, 2018 Share Posted May 15, 2018 20 hours ago, NurdRage said: Maybe the problems with heat management in ONI is because the air pressure is crap. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/90798-duplicants-should-be-dead/#findComment-1035568 Share on other sites More sharing options...
absimiliard Posted May 15, 2018 Share Posted May 15, 2018 OMG Jiggy2000, that is awesome! Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/90798-duplicants-should-be-dead/#findComment-1035573 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kabrute Posted May 15, 2018 Share Posted May 15, 2018 5 hours ago, CherryHavoc said: I don't think anybody has mentioned yet how they only need 1000 calories a day, while an actual human would need at least twice as much. according to science a "Calorie restricted diet has been shown to improve the lifespan of mice by as much as 40%" Beyond that these are clearly experimental life forms with capabilities for beyond standard humanity yet in no way has humanity been shown to be intrinsically limited in the way we apply as such the genetic limits of our species may far exceed what we ourselves are capable of pushing them too for lack of activation triggers on the sequences. In point of fact the majority of "facts" about the human body all have oppositional statements that also hold true. Humans require _____ liters of water per day. "60 year old man survives 2 weeks in the desert" or how about Gurus capable of extreme periods of fasting? Humans dies of hypothermia on exposure to extreme cold. ::watches a video about a group called the polar bear club:: ever limit humanity has set, it has likewise found some way to push beyond. Were we to create genetically perfect beings it is likely they would be superhuman compared to us, in nearly every regard. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/90798-duplicants-should-be-dead/#findComment-1035588 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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