Nullum Posted February 27, 2018 Share Posted February 27, 2018 I demand a fix on this kind of atrocity. @PeterA Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/88122-florid-postern-problems/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
MondayNight Posted February 27, 2018 Share Posted February 27, 2018 Ah, the good ol' griefing! Spider nest(s) placed in gate, tentacles summoned at gate, stuff put to block players at gate, then burned etc etc etc. Not to forget here the classic "Does baisu know how to burnie-burnie? Now it sure does!" (wild Willow/Wilson setting it ablaze) And this happening from... right the start of DST, in beta test. But, hey, lets wait for said "fix" a bit longer, shall we?! Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/88122-florid-postern-problems/#findComment-1009236 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Korlie Posted February 27, 2018 Share Posted February 27, 2018 Disallow placeable objects to be placed within a certain range of the Postern, solved. It will be patched in with as much haste as the voting overhaul, estimated time to completion: two years. Even the world generation can't manage it, spawning in pig houses adjacent to the Postern so Webbers get jumped. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/88122-florid-postern-problems/#findComment-1009245 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maslak Posted February 27, 2018 Share Posted February 27, 2018 40 minutes ago, xxVERSUSxy said: Ah, the good ol' griefing! Spider nest(s) placed in gate, tentacles summoned at gate, stuff put to block players at gate, then burned etc etc etc. Not to forget here the classic "Does baisu know how to burnie-burnie? Now it sure does!" (wild Willow/Wilson setting it ablaze) And this happening from... right the start of DST, in beta test. But, hey, lets wait for said "fix" a bit longer, shall we?! I'd want to say it's griefing but actually there are some sort of gangs of players that hijack Klei pubs. They block off spawn and kick any new players, often insulting them. Gloomer's Goop, Stinking Merm are servers where this happened, Merm is still like that right now. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/88122-florid-postern-problems/#findComment-1009248 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnWatson Posted February 27, 2018 Share Posted February 27, 2018 @Maslak are you trying to imply that new players should have a place to play and learn instead of being driven into refunding the game since they're greeted with toxicity in official servers Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/88122-florid-postern-problems/#findComment-1009251 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maslak Posted February 27, 2018 Share Posted February 27, 2018 There really are people refunding game because of that, this is the saddest part probably. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/88122-florid-postern-problems/#findComment-1009254 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MondayNight Posted February 27, 2018 Share Posted February 27, 2018 2 hours ago, Maslak said: .. there are some sort of gangs of players that hijack Klei pubs. They block off spawn and kick any new players.. From my experience, in Survival pubs - even more so on Klei official servers - after 1st winter, among all new people joining in about 30% are griefers, often from the famous league of Clouds, Master, S@tan-senpai, Salzmah, a.s.f. - the type which only roams map and burns and/or hammers every base they encounter. So, at some level, I understand these hijackers. Still not a nice thing to do considering official pubs are meant to be a place of learning and first experiencing the game. So, again, blame it on those dumb griefers; and on Klei, refusing to take anti-griefer measures on these official pubs (inability to burn/hammer player-made structures while their builder is present on server, lighting fires only at a certain range from a group of player-made structures etc). 2 hours ago, Maslak said: There really are people refunding game because of that, this is the saddest part probably. I think one is more inclined to refund/not play anymore the game when confronted with repeated base-destroying griefers - as you invested work on those camps, as opposed to just login on a server, seeing that madness at gate and leaving with a "sigh". Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/88122-florid-postern-problems/#findComment-1009255 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Szczuku Posted February 27, 2018 Share Posted February 27, 2018 I join a Klei-hosted and this was also a thing but people where actually nice and told me that they'll revive me if I'm going to play nice, so I thought that this sort of thing is to prevent griefers from y'know doing what they do best. Any touch stone was also surrounded by end tables. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/88122-florid-postern-problems/#findComment-1009257 Share on other sites More sharing options...
6480 Posted February 27, 2018 Share Posted February 27, 2018 They blame it on not having a dedicated server to play at, but you know that they really like being able to take over whatever server they please and control who goes in and out. It's not griefing that bothers me, that's harder to fix and someone trying to torch your base once in a while is part of playing on a public server. It's not even the spawn kills that bother me. It's the elitist and *******-ish attitudes that these groups have in gatekeeping a KLEI-OWNED server. You've played less than 300 hours? Kicked. Your profile is private? Kicked. We don't recognize you? Kicked. It's ridiculous and out of hand. I can get into these servers because I know how to act around them and my profile has a decent amount of hours. But it really shouldn't matter. Also, some of them are outright hostile when greeting new folks. Threats, clique-ishness... Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/88122-florid-postern-problems/#findComment-1009261 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maslak Posted February 27, 2018 Share Posted February 27, 2018 6 minutes ago, xxVERSUSxy said: From my experience, in Survival pubs - even more so on Klei official servers - after 1st winter, among all new people joining in about 30% are griefers, often from the famous league of Clouds, Master, S@tan-senpai, Salzmah, a.s.f. - the type which only roams map and burns and/or hammers every base they encounter. So, at some level, I understand these hijackers. Still not a nice thing to do considering official pubs are meat to be a place of learning and first experiencing the game. So, again, blame it on those dumb griefers; and on Klei, refusing to take anti-griefer measures on these official pubs (inability to burn/hammer player-made structures, lighting fires at a certain range from a group of player-made structures etc). I'm sorry but 30% is ridiculous. That's simply not true. 3 minutes ago, Szczuku said: I join a Klei-hosted and this was also a thing but people where actually nice and told me that they'll revive me if I'm going to play nice, so I thought that this sort of thing is to prevent griefers from y'know doing what they do best. Any touch stone was also surrounded by end tables. Yeah, sure. Unless you have person who they already kicked on your friends list. They simply assumed I came to grief and annoy them, while the reality is totally different. I just came to talke and try to persuade them to get their own server, but I was kept being called "griefer" and some less nice words. Just now, 6480 said: It's not griefing that bothers me, that's harder to fix and someone trying to torch your base once in a while is part of playing on a public server. It's not even the spawn kills that bother me. It's the elitist and *******-ish attitudes that these groups have in gatekeeping a KLEI-OWNED server. You've played less than 300 hours? Kicked. Your profile is private? Kicked. We don't recognize you? Kicked. It's ridiculous and out of hand. Reasons can vary but effect is the same, preventing others from playing. You are right. If Klei doesn't do something about this I'll lost my faith in them, no matter how silly this sounds. And by doing something I don't mean disallowing players to set stuff on fire etc like Szczuku said, these aren't good solutions imo. They need to take action and ban these people from playing on Klei pubs or at least tell them personally that they are wrong. Because right now these players are like "I'm just playing the game what's so wrong about this, genius?". Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/88122-florid-postern-problems/#findComment-1009262 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnWatson Posted February 27, 2018 Share Posted February 27, 2018 9 minutes ago, xxVERSUSxy said: I think one is more inclined to refund the game when confronted with repeated base-destroying griefers - as you invested work on those camps, as opposed to just login on a server, seeing that madness at gate and leaving with a "sigh". you can't refund the game if you've played up to winter Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/88122-florid-postern-problems/#findComment-1009263 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MondayNight Posted February 27, 2018 Share Posted February 27, 2018 3 minutes ago, Maslak said: I'm sorry but 30% is ridiculous. That's simply not true. Then you haven't played enough pubs. Truth be told, I stopped going on Klei official servers (because of griefers) mid December of last year - and I am talking about EU servers (pointing this because I haven't encountered you ever on said pubs, thus I assume you're playing on the USA counterparts). But last time I went there practically every winter/spring we had at least one insane player burning bases/resources/etc or swearing us because we didn't came at gate to escort or tell where our base(s) were (for obvious reasons). Actually one of Clouds account (GJ Klei on dealing with this loco person know for griefing since beta, multiple accounts with bots and all, server resets, destroying work of others via burning, etc!) going a lot on EU Klei official pubs made me quit playing them. 11 minutes ago, JohnWatson said: you can't refund the game if you've played up to winter You still encounter griefers in those 2h of Steam refund policy. However, yes, more probable to stumble upon the issue raised in this thread or rude/elitist/unhelpful/trolling players. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/88122-florid-postern-problems/#findComment-1009264 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maslak Posted February 27, 2018 Share Posted February 27, 2018 I played on EU Klei Pubs aswell. But it was long ago, when they first got introduced. I met many amazing people and had lots of fun. Learned a lot, too. Later I moved on to play with my friends (ones I met on pubs) on our own servers. Such a shame, we could just hijack some Klei Pub when I think about it now... If you meet 10 players and 3 of them were griefers (which I really doubt) you can't just say that 30% of players are griefers. That's not how statistics work. You need waaaaay bigger sample. 500 players, I'd say? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/88122-florid-postern-problems/#findComment-1009265 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Szczuku Posted February 27, 2018 Share Posted February 27, 2018 51 minutes ago, Maslak said: Yeah, sure. Unless you have person who they already kicked on your friends list. They simply assumed I came to grief and annoy them, while the reality is totally different. I just came to talke and try to persuade them to get their own server, but I was kept being called "griefer" and some less nice words. Well the fact that it was a 2000+ world might suggest why they were all nice Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/88122-florid-postern-problems/#findComment-1009277 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MondayNight Posted February 27, 2018 Share Posted February 27, 2018 36 minutes ago, Maslak said: I played on EU Klei Pubs aswell. But it was long ago, when they first got introduced. I met many amazing people and had lots of fun. Learned a lot, too. Later I moved on to play with my friends (ones I met on pubs) on our own servers. Such a shame, we could just hijack some Klei Pub when I think about it now... If you meet 10 players and 3 of them were griefers (which I really doubt) you can't just say that 30% of players are griefers. That's not how statistics work. You need waaaaay bigger sample. 500 players, I'd say? Go there now and play some dozens of games to get a good taste of said toxicity. I for one had my fair share, as most of my games (probably over 1.8k hours) were on Klei official pubs. From the end of 2016 onward situation got from bad to worse. People swearing left and right, looting, pillaging and logging off with all resources gathered for no reason, burning/hammering random stuff up to mini camps and bases, etc. Maybe not 3 out of then are griefers per se, but 3 out of 10 sure are not the type with whom you can play an ok game (aka chat spammers, looters, spewing profanities, base leechers, trolls, "follow the self appointed incompetent leader" and so on). Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/88122-florid-postern-problems/#findComment-1009279 Share on other sites More sharing options...
fimmatek Posted February 27, 2018 Share Posted February 27, 2018 3 hours ago, Korlie said: Disallow placeable objects to be placed within a certain range of the Postern, solved. It will be patched in with as much haste as the voting overhaul, estimated time to completion: two years. There are only two problems with it: first, griefers will find a way to block the portal anyway, even if it won't be that easy, and second, we couldn't base at the portal. Which isn't a huge issue, but seriously, shalln't we able to build our base anywhere? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/88122-florid-postern-problems/#findComment-1009305 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Korlie Posted February 27, 2018 Share Posted February 27, 2018 1 minute ago, fimmatek said: There are only two problems with it: first, griefers will find a way to block the portal anyway, even if it won't be that easy, and second, we couldn't base at the portal. Which isn't a huge issue, but seriously, shalln't we able to build our base anywhere? You couldn't base ontop of the postern anymore but you could still base literally right beside it. Most players should be able to find it when it's still within screen view from spawn. Yeah the griefers could just make a larger wall around the postern and fill it with hazards but that would require significantly more resources and hazards then two handfuls of Fuelweaver bits and a single spider nest. So it would take way longer and be way more difficult to do. Contrary to the recently popular opinion, making a bad thing harder to do doesn't eliminate that bad thing but it does make it less occurring since now it is harder to do. And so laws exist. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/88122-florid-postern-problems/#findComment-1009310 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maslak Posted February 27, 2018 Share Posted February 27, 2018 On top of that you'll get instantly kicked after joining anyway, so de-blocking spawn is not an ultimate fix. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/88122-florid-postern-problems/#findComment-1009313 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Korlie Posted February 27, 2018 Share Posted February 27, 2018 5 minutes ago, Maslak said: On top of that you'll get instantly kicked after joining anyway, so de-blocking spawn is not an ultimate fix. Would reduce the contracted toxicity from experiencing the event at least. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/88122-florid-postern-problems/#findComment-1009317 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MondayNight Posted February 27, 2018 Share Posted February 27, 2018 19 hours ago, Korlie said: Contrary to the recently popular opinion, making a bad thing harder to do doesn't eliminate that bad thing but it does make it less occurring since now it is harder to do. And so laws exist. Assuming things still are enabled to grow beside portal, here's an easy griefer "fix" for your proposal: 4 of these babies at the corners of a 6x6 tiles will assure instant-death for newly spawned players. Also don't forget the rings of friendly spider nests around gate. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/88122-florid-postern-problems/#findComment-1009324 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auth Posted February 27, 2018 Share Posted February 27, 2018 My main world has a mgoose spawn right at the portal. Every spring there's another 2 corpses of new players added to the postern. My world griefed itself. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/88122-florid-postern-problems/#findComment-1009345 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cellby Posted February 28, 2018 Share Posted February 28, 2018 Reading this while never having joined the Klei official servers... I thought people playing this game were chill, but it seems like it is not the case. At least you guys on the forum are...generally okay. So sad to hear that people are actually getting a bad enough impression of the game that they uninstall. I was lucky enough to have several friends teach me the game, and I learnt it really really quick. There should be some form of moderation in the official servers. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/88122-florid-postern-problems/#findComment-1009421 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sosiskaKi Posted February 28, 2018 Share Posted February 28, 2018 10 hours ago, xxVERSUSxy said: Actually one of Clouds account (GJ Klei on dealing with this loco person know for griefing since beta, multiple accounts with bots and all, server resets, destroying work of others via burning, etc!) going a lot on EU Klei official pubs made me quit playing them. Clouds? Russian teacher woman who likes to griefing and killing players? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/88122-florid-postern-problems/#findComment-1009423 Share on other sites More sharing options...
minespatch Posted February 28, 2018 Share Posted February 28, 2018 5 hours ago, Auth said: My main world has a mgoose spawn right at the portal. Wow, M'Goose security should be insured. Imagine the taxes that the giants could get for being Florid Postern bouncers. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/88122-florid-postern-problems/#findComment-1009430 Share on other sites More sharing options...
kertinker Posted February 28, 2018 Share Posted February 28, 2018 12 hours ago, Maslak said: I'd want to say it's griefing but actually there are some sort of gangs of players that hijack Klei pubs. They block off spawn and kick any new players, often insulting them. Gloomer's Goop, Stinking Merm are servers where this happened, Merm is still like that right now. That's um... literally stealing. Or probably something worse, I dunno what you call it when you drive everyone out of a public place and claim it as your own. Has anyone considered legal action? I mean, if armed gangs were driving all my customers away and claiming my Qwik-E-Mart as their territory, I'd be taking legal action. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/88122-florid-postern-problems/#findComment-1009457 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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