manu_x32 Posted February 16, 2018 Share Posted February 16, 2018 In a recent test game, I noticed my showers, toilets and sinks heating up when directly sending them steam geyser water. I thought this was not happening before when using abyssalite pipes. Has something changed? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/87698-is-steam-geyser-water-now-heating-up-toilets-and-showers/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheScaryOne Posted February 16, 2018 Share Posted February 16, 2018 They have always gained heat from the liquid inside of them. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/87698-is-steam-geyser-water-now-heating-up-toilets-and-showers/#findComment-1005124 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coolthulhu Posted February 16, 2018 Share Posted February 16, 2018 14 minutes ago, TheScaryOne said: They have always gained heat from the liquid inside of them. Not always. It changed sometime around Automation update. Nowadays it seems that the contents interact with outside world, at one specific tile (depends on building). The building will not be directly heated, unless it covers said tile completely (ie. hydroponics), only through gas/liquid that gets heated by the contents of the building. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/87698-is-steam-geyser-water-now-heating-up-toilets-and-showers/#findComment-1005131 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quigleyer Posted February 16, 2018 Share Posted February 16, 2018 10 minutes ago, Coolthulhu said: Not always. It changed sometime around Automation update. Nowadays it seems that the contents interact with outside world, at one specific tile (depends on building). The building will not be directly heated, unless it covers said tile completely (ie. hydroponics), only through gas/liquid that gets heated by the contents of the building. Would this have possible effected the electrolyzer? I hear a lot of people who know what they're talking about say it outputs oxygen at 70C, but I swear when I look at mine it's coming out at 40-45C and I thought maybe the temp of the water I had been using was a reason, but I've been told that's not true (?). PS. I know now to just use hot water for that sucker, makes sense. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/87698-is-steam-geyser-water-now-heating-up-toilets-and-showers/#findComment-1005137 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lacost Posted February 16, 2018 Share Posted February 16, 2018 55 minutes ago, Quigleyer said: Would this have possible effected the electrolyzer? I hear a lot of people who know what they're talking about say it outputs oxygen at 70C, but I swear when I look at mine it's coming out at 40-45C and I thought maybe the temp of the water I had been using was a reason, but I've been told that's not true (?). PS. I know now to just use hot water for that sucker, makes sense. Check your surrounding tiles and machines. They have a heat capacity as well. So the oxygen comes out at 70°C but because all the surrounding mass is at 40°C the oxygen cools down immediately. Let the Electrolyzer run for a few cycles and temperatures should be climbing until they reach 70°C. The temperature of the water stored in the Electrolyzer should influence it, however depending on your setup it shouldn't really stay long in the Electrolyzer if it has no idle time. With toilets and sinks the water usually stays in there for a long time which allows quite a fair amount of heat exchange. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/87698-is-steam-geyser-water-now-heating-up-toilets-and-showers/#findComment-1005161 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Flying Fox Posted February 16, 2018 Share Posted February 16, 2018 1 hour ago, Quigleyer said: Would this have possible effected the electrolyzer? I hear a lot of people who know what they're talking about say it outputs oxygen at 70C, but I swear when I look at mine it's coming out at 40-45C and I thought maybe the temp of the water I had been using was a reason, but I've been told that's not true (?). PS. I know now to just use hot water for that sucker, makes sense. The water that is pumped into the small storage of the electrolyzer is effected by the temp of the machine, however, it's quickly burned and converted into 70C oxygen and hydrogen. So, it has some tiny effect on the machine before it disappears. The only way to stop this would be to throttle the water that's going into it with a valve, but that's honestly the least of your problems. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/87698-is-steam-geyser-water-now-heating-up-toilets-and-showers/#findComment-1005162 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roboson Posted February 16, 2018 Share Posted February 16, 2018 THAT EXPLAINS SO MUCH. My bathroom is 15 degrees hotter than the rest of my base. I thought it was because of my nearby industry, but it may just be my boiling abyssalite toilets. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/87698-is-steam-geyser-water-now-heating-up-toilets-and-showers/#findComment-1005177 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lutzkhie Posted February 17, 2018 Share Posted February 17, 2018 how would you cool electrolizer? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/87698-is-steam-geyser-water-now-heating-up-toilets-and-showers/#findComment-1005183 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Flying Fox Posted February 17, 2018 Share Posted February 17, 2018 Some cold water or oil works well. In this case, water. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/87698-is-steam-geyser-water-now-heating-up-toilets-and-showers/#findComment-1005185 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lutzkhie Posted February 17, 2018 Share Posted February 17, 2018 i have cold polluted water from ice biome that i use from smelting, ill just redirect some to my oxydation chamber Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/87698-is-steam-geyser-water-now-heating-up-toilets-and-showers/#findComment-1005189 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saturnus Posted February 17, 2018 Share Posted February 17, 2018 45 minutes ago, Roboson said: My bathroom is 15 degrees hotter than the rest of my base. I thought it was because of my nearby industry, but it may just be my boiling abyssalite toilets. Lavatories are made from metal as far as I recall Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/87698-is-steam-geyser-water-now-heating-up-toilets-and-showers/#findComment-1005191 Share on other sites More sharing options...
avc15 Posted February 17, 2018 Share Posted February 17, 2018 53 minutes ago, Lutzkhie said: how would you cool electrolizer? you cool an electrolyzer by drawing off the gas it produces (ie it cools itself) The gas is always created at 70C, so all you have to do is keep on creating more gas - the electrolyzers will never go above 71C or so if you keep the air moving. (you probably meant something like, how do I cool them down to 21C or something... I recommend not doing that, just insulate your electrolysis room from your people space... cool the gas using whatever method you prefer) Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/87698-is-steam-geyser-water-now-heating-up-toilets-and-showers/#findComment-1005196 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lutzkhie Posted February 17, 2018 Share Posted February 17, 2018 yeah i keep it running for a long cycle and maintained at 50C or something, im thinking of auto-switching it when there is too much oxygen on my base Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/87698-is-steam-geyser-water-now-heating-up-toilets-and-showers/#findComment-1005202 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lifegrow Posted February 17, 2018 Share Posted February 17, 2018 4 hours ago, Coolthulhu said: Not always. It changed sometime around Automation update. Nowadays it seems that the contents interact with outside world, at one specific tile (depends on building). The building will not be directly heated, unless it covers said tile completely (ie. hydroponics), only through gas/liquid that gets heated by the contents of the building. Pretty sure this changed back in the thermal upgrade didn't it ? It's a good while back anyways.... Couple of wheezeworts generally can handle the heat they emit though, so I wouldn't panic too much. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/87698-is-steam-geyser-water-now-heating-up-toilets-and-showers/#findComment-1005219 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coolthulhu Posted February 17, 2018 Share Posted February 17, 2018 8 hours ago, Lifegrow said: Pretty sure this changed back in the thermal upgrade didn't it ? You mean heating from contents was enabled or disabled? I tested it around outbreak update and back then it certainly did not work as it does now - pumping magma into a hydroponic tile did not heat it up a bit. I didn't test it before, so I don't know how it worked before outbreak. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/87698-is-steam-geyser-water-now-heating-up-toilets-and-showers/#findComment-1005372 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soulwind Posted February 17, 2018 Share Posted February 17, 2018 I know it has been heating the lavatories since at least the tubular upgrade when I started playing. I used to run a semi - closed loop from the sieve and noticed that my bathrooms were hotter than the rest of my base. These days I run chilled water through the base and let it go through the bathrooms last. The water has warmed up a bit by then but is still around 15c or so. Now my bathrooms are staying nice and cool. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/87698-is-steam-geyser-water-now-heating-up-toilets-and-showers/#findComment-1005382 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lifegrow Posted February 17, 2018 Share Posted February 17, 2018 3 hours ago, Coolthulhu said: You mean heating from contents was enabled or disabled? I tested it around outbreak update and back then it certainly did not work as it does now - pumping magma into a hydroponic tile did not heat it up a bit. I didn't test it before, so I don't know how it worked before outbreak. Again, I think (can't remember exactly) toilets/showers started radiating heat in the thermal upgrade - before then we used to let dupes shower in geyser water with no change in heat at all - and it would output at a reduced 40 degrees like the water purifier (sieve). if i'd had enough coffee i'd go and check the game updates, but alas - my caffeine levels are dangerously low Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/87698-is-steam-geyser-water-now-heating-up-toilets-and-showers/#findComment-1005439 Share on other sites More sharing options...
manu_x32 Posted February 17, 2018 Author Share Posted February 17, 2018 Thanks for all the answers. I guess I was noticing it more in this game because my oxygen setup was different, and I had not wheezeworths in the base yet. I also had 8 showers sitting beside one another without gaps in between, which seemed to create a lot more heat than usual. Anyways, the heat was indeed easy to take care off with a few wheezeworths and thermal plates. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/87698-is-steam-geyser-water-now-heating-up-toilets-and-showers/#findComment-1005588 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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