DwerBomb Posted April 26, 2016 Share Posted April 26, 2016 I love them. Everyone loves them. And I feel like the Shadow skins could be something more special than just another elegant random skin drops...we already have GoH and Survivor, so Shadow could be something different: something you unlock in game, possibly. While on one side having them available for everyone will make their value drop really low, I don't want DST to be reduced to a Team fortress kind of game (this issue has been talked about for a long time, since skins came out): Shadow skins are an important part of the lore, and having them reduced to just a price on the market would be terrible :c Tldr: pls I want a shadow skin but I'm so unlucky with drops EDIT: The thread is now dedicated to suggestions on how to make skins more fun to get (through balanced drops) Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/66712-skins-discussion-trade-inn-suggestions-for-a-more-balanced-and-better-collection/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maslak Posted April 26, 2016 Share Posted April 26, 2016 2 hours ago, DwerBomb said: Pls I want a shadow skin but I'm so unlucky with drops U r not alone m80. I want this cool Wilson skin! Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/66712-skins-discussion-trade-inn-suggestions-for-a-more-balanced-and-better-collection/#findComment-758175 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohaneBrote Posted April 26, 2016 Share Posted April 26, 2016 How about them being rewards for beating Adventure mode? So for example if you manage to put Wilson on the Nightmare Throne you get his shadow set, if you do the same with WX you get his etc... It would make sense lore-wise, you know it would! Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/66712-skins-discussion-trade-inn-suggestions-for-a-more-balanced-and-better-collection/#findComment-758244 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DwerBomb Posted April 26, 2016 Author Share Posted April 26, 2016 33 minutes ago, JohaneBrote said: How about them being rewards for beating Adventure mode? So for example if you manage to put Wilson on the Nightmare Throne you get his shadow set, if you do the same with WX you get his etc... It would make sense lore-wise, you know it would! Yes Its what I was thinking too. And possibly porting them to Singleplayer (once you save your character from adventure mode, they'll permanently be Shadow mode) :0 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/66712-skins-discussion-trade-inn-suggestions-for-a-more-balanced-and-better-collection/#findComment-758271 Share on other sites More sharing options...
unitato Posted April 27, 2016 Share Posted April 27, 2016 I would love an ingame achievement thing like you made this, this, this and this? Good Job, heres a distuinguished. However, i feel like people could just cheese that with private servers :/ Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/66712-skins-discussion-trade-inn-suggestions-for-a-more-balanced-and-better-collection/#findComment-758819 Share on other sites More sharing options...
verm1ll1on Posted April 27, 2016 Share Posted April 27, 2016 In the server creation screen, when you set the number of players to 1, it changes the game mode to "alone". Maybe they should add Maxwell's portal in these types of servers and lock the option once the world is generated. That way, you have to do Adventure Mode all by yourself and would gain the skin set for the character you used. Maybe just one skin set should be obtainable by this method per account. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/66712-skins-discussion-trade-inn-suggestions-for-a-more-balanced-and-better-collection/#findComment-758842 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoloMan Posted April 27, 2016 Share Posted April 27, 2016 But the survivor skins are also a big part of the lore, even more so than the shadows. That's why I like them just a bit more than the shadow ones, I mean it's so frickin cool to see how the characters have adapted to the world they're in! Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/66712-skins-discussion-trade-inn-suggestions-for-a-more-balanced-and-better-collection/#findComment-758855 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricey Posted April 27, 2016 Share Posted April 27, 2016 10 hours ago, JohaneBrote said: How about them being rewards for beating Adventure mode? So for example if you manage to put Wilson on the Nightmare Throne you get his shadow set, if you do the same with WX you get his etc... It would make sense lore-wise, you know it would! I get your idea, but if that was, in fact, a reward you would get from doing so, couldn't the lazy work through adventure mode with either mods or godmode? (But lore-wise this would really make sense, don't get me wrong!) And if these were to be obtainable through adventure mode, making these tradeable would be kinda pointless, considering it's not a drop, but rather something that can be obtained if you owned don't starve; i'm thinking loyalty items like ROG? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/66712-skins-discussion-trade-inn-suggestions-for-a-more-balanced-and-better-collection/#findComment-758859 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mathem99 Posted April 27, 2016 Share Posted April 27, 2016 I wanna get Maxwell Untriumphant skin Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/66712-skins-discussion-trade-inn-suggestions-for-a-more-balanced-and-better-collection/#findComment-758871 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikeadatrix Posted April 27, 2016 Share Posted April 27, 2016 On 4/26/2016 at 10:40 AM, DwerBomb said: I love them. Everyone loves them. And I feel like the Shadow skins could be something more special than just another elegant random skin drops...we already have GoH and Survivor, so Shadow could be something different: something you unlock in game, possibly. While on one side having them available for everyone will make their value drop really low, I don't want DST to be reduced to a Team fortress kind of game (this issue has been talked about for a long time, since skins came out): Shadow skins are an important part of the lore, and having them reduced to just a price on the market would be terrible :c Tldr: pls I want a shadow skin but I'm so unlucky with drops I SUPPORT THIS 100%. KLEI AT LEAST MAKE THEM EARNABLE. 1 minute ago, Mikeadatrix said: I SUPPORT THIS 100%. KLEI AT LEAST MAKE THEM EARNABLE. It makes sense for them to be earnable. You go through hell, you get tricked, and it says "Maybe BLANK will use their powers to tempt the unsuspecting." Klei this is your chance! PLEASE Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/66712-skins-discussion-trade-inn-suggestions-for-a-more-balanced-and-better-collection/#findComment-759345 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ConfusedCourier Posted April 27, 2016 Share Posted April 27, 2016 As much as i would love to have them more available, i feel it would kinda devalue these awesome looking skins if they did not have actual value tied to them. Sure everyone could have them, but they'd mean nothing. Look at things like the Gibus in TF2. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/66712-skins-discussion-trade-inn-suggestions-for-a-more-balanced-and-better-collection/#findComment-759349 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikeadatrix Posted April 27, 2016 Share Posted April 27, 2016 8 minutes ago, ConfusedCourier said: As much as i would love to have them more available, i feel it would kinda devalue these awesome looking skins if they did not have actual value tied to them. Sure everyone could have them, but they'd mean nothing. Look at things like the Gibus in TF2. Remember that feeling when you beat Adventure Mode and unlock Maxwell and Wes? Glorious. It'd work the same here, you get a trophy. You prove that "Yes, I beat adventure mode as Wilson, I am a pro DS player." No mods should be allowed on the server though. To prevent cheating. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/66712-skins-discussion-trade-inn-suggestions-for-a-more-balanced-and-better-collection/#findComment-759355 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zephyr4IK Posted April 27, 2016 Share Posted April 27, 2016 21 hours ago, JohaneBrote said: How about them being rewards for beating Adventure mode? So for example if you manage to put Wilson on the Nightmare Throne you get his shadow set, if you do the same with WX you get his etc... It would make sense lore-wise, you know it would! Everyone will be able to download save game file and get a free set. Not the best idea. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/66712-skins-discussion-trade-inn-suggestions-for-a-more-balanced-and-better-collection/#findComment-759357 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikeadatrix Posted April 27, 2016 Share Posted April 27, 2016 2 minutes ago, Zephyr41k said: Everyone will be able to download save game file and get a free set. Not the best idea. Well Klei should implement some feature where you beat Adventure mode with a certain character and get a RANDOMLY GENERATED Key to plug into the Redeem button on the home page. You get the skin of character you played as. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/66712-skins-discussion-trade-inn-suggestions-for-a-more-balanced-and-better-collection/#findComment-759360 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zephyr4IK Posted April 27, 2016 Share Posted April 27, 2016 18 minutes ago, Mikeadatrix said: Well Klei should implement some feature where you beat Adventure mode with a certain character and get a RANDOMLY GENERATED Key to plug into the Redeem button on the home page. You get the skin of character you played as. Maybe they'll do something similar for future collections. It would be great. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/66712-skins-discussion-trade-inn-suggestions-for-a-more-balanced-and-better-collection/#findComment-759368 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikeadatrix Posted April 27, 2016 Share Posted April 27, 2016 1 minute ago, Zephyr41k said: Maybe they'll do something similar for future collections. It would be great. Maybe. But nothing says lore like Shadow skins. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/66712-skins-discussion-trade-inn-suggestions-for-a-more-balanced-and-better-collection/#findComment-759369 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zephyr4IK Posted April 27, 2016 Share Posted April 27, 2016 9 minutes ago, Mikeadatrix said: Maybe. But nothing says lore like Shadow skins. Buy and complete the original game to get exclusive skins. "Klei" will become "Overkill" Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/66712-skins-discussion-trade-inn-suggestions-for-a-more-balanced-and-better-collection/#findComment-759376 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zephyr4IK Posted April 27, 2016 Share Posted April 27, 2016 Just now, KleiForumer said: Actually, I love this idea. @nome MAKE IT HAPPEN, O GREAT ONE! It's really good idea, but... Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/66712-skins-discussion-trade-inn-suggestions-for-a-more-balanced-and-better-collection/#findComment-759380 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Letter W Posted April 27, 2016 Share Posted April 27, 2016 37 minutes ago, Mikeadatrix said: Remember that feeling when you beat Adventure Mode and unlock Maxwell and Wes? Glorious. It'd work the same here, you get a trophy. You prove that "Yes, I beat adventure mode as Wilson, I am a pro DS player." No mods should be allowed on the server though. To prevent cheating. 33 minutes ago, Zephyr41k said: Everyone will be able to download save game file and get a free set. Not the best idea. 29 minutes ago, Mikeadatrix said: Well Klei should implement some feature where you beat Adventure mode with a certain character and get a RANDOMLY GENERATED Key to plug into the Redeem button on the home page. You get the skin of character you played as. the issue is, it doesn't matter how 'fair' of a way klei finds to implement it, people will find a way to exploit it. a quote in bioshock sums it up perfectly, really; "Sure, the boys in Ryan's lab can make it hack-proof. But that don't mean we ain't gonna hack it." - Pablo Navarro Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/66712-skins-discussion-trade-inn-suggestions-for-a-more-balanced-and-better-collection/#findComment-759391 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DwerBomb Posted April 27, 2016 Author Share Posted April 27, 2016 2 minutes ago, The Letter W said: the issue is, it doesn't matter how 'fair' of a way klei finds to implement it, people will find a way to exploit it. a quote in bioshock sums it up perfectly, really; "Sure, the boys in Ryan's lab can make it hack-proof. But that don't mean we ain't gonna hack it." - Pablo Navarro Yes. And that's the major issue with all the skins system. The problem is that I really can't think of a way to prevent that, but on the other hand I really want them available for everyone and not 30$ in the steam market... Maybe a buff to the Trade inn should do this: the more time you've played the game, the higher the chance to get a better tier. But again, someone would just let the game run and get play time without playing... Although, a thing I definitely think should be added is that after X number of drops you are guaranteed a rare item. It's just so unfair how unlucky one can be! It's terrible to have had the game since day 1 and never got anything above spiffy! Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/66712-skins-discussion-trade-inn-suggestions-for-a-more-balanced-and-better-collection/#findComment-759395 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zephyr4IK Posted April 27, 2016 Share Posted April 27, 2016 4 minutes ago, DwerBomb said: But again, someone would just let the game run and get play time without playing... Klei, return kick for AFK.(pls) Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/66712-skins-discussion-trade-inn-suggestions-for-a-more-balanced-and-better-collection/#findComment-759397 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohaneBrote Posted April 27, 2016 Share Posted April 27, 2016 11 hours ago, Ricey said: I get your idea, but if that was, in fact, a reward you would get from doing so, couldn't the lazy work through adventure mode with either mods or godmode? (But lore-wise this would really make sense, don't get me wrong!) And if these were to be obtainable through adventure mode, making these tradeable would be kinda pointless, considering it's not a drop, but rather something that can be obtained if you owned don't starve; i'm thinking loyalty items like ROG? You can already idle in godmode for 4 skins per week, and this would require you to buy the base game and actively play out the whole adventure mode once per skin set, with godmode or without. Now sure you could probably mess with the saves like somebody else pointed out, but you would still need to own a copy of DS and have at least basic programming knowledge. However, if someone's this hellbent on not playing the game they're trying to get skins for, who am I to stop them. I definitely agree they shouldn't be tradable nor marketable, since that might create an actual opportunity for grinding/cheating for profit (the current system is too random and there's only so many people craving red T-shirts out there). Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/66712-skins-discussion-trade-inn-suggestions-for-a-more-balanced-and-better-collection/#findComment-759421 Share on other sites More sharing options...
smallishbird Posted April 27, 2016 Share Posted April 27, 2016 2 hours ago, DwerBomb said: Although, a thing I definitely think should be added is that after X number of drops you are guaranteed a rare item. It's just so unfair how unlucky one can be! It's terrible to have had the game since day 1 and never got anything above spiffy! I agree with this 100%. I also think for every non-rare item you get, the chance for a rare item should increase slightly. For example, for every common, classy, and spiffy you get, the chance for a elegant or distinguished should be increased by 1% until you get an elegant or distinguished. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/66712-skins-discussion-trade-inn-suggestions-for-a-more-balanced-and-better-collection/#findComment-759478 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikeadatrix Posted April 27, 2016 Share Posted April 27, 2016 I agree. Klei said they'd change the Trade Inn and skin features. Now is that time. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/66712-skins-discussion-trade-inn-suggestions-for-a-more-balanced-and-better-collection/#findComment-759488 Share on other sites More sharing options...
gonz008 Posted April 27, 2016 Share Posted April 27, 2016 All aboard the IDEA TIME train? Thought about how klei could implement a tutorial in the game, however having all the characters released, its a little too late for this. BUT what if having cool skins (such as the shadow skins) be associated with a tutorial? (replace characters with skins) On 4/15/2016 at 9:48 PM, gonz008 said: I think that the tutorial should be implemented by unlocking characters (I know that klei has decided not to have unlockable characters in the way that they did in DS) but I think that the tutorial should unlock characters by accomplishing basic tasks. Noobs should definately start with just Wilson unlocked, then after crafting a torch, they unlock Willow. Then after Crafting a Tophat they would Unlock webber (gotta learn to dodge spiders and learn about silk) To get Abigail unlocked you gotta go insane and gain enough sanity that the shadow creatures disappear. ...etc Basic functions that anyone who plays DST for more than 30 mins unlocks all the characters while at the same time it teaches noobs how the basics. Afterwards The unlocked characters stay unlocked. Eh? All aboard? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/66712-skins-discussion-trade-inn-suggestions-for-a-more-balanced-and-better-collection/#findComment-759508 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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