Developer Kevin Posted November 30, 2012 Developer Share Posted November 30, 2012 Here's a big, detailed list. Hopefully this will break the cycle of poop-and-grass addiction:FARMSfarm plots are fully fertilized when they are builtfarm plots have much higher fertilizer capacity (used to be 6, now is 10,20,30)Poop fertilizes farms more efficiently and speeds crop growth more efficientlyDEPLOYING / BUILDINGan unsuccessful deploy will not consume the deployablechests can be placed closer togethernon-colliding deployables can be placed closer togethertwigs and grass to not become exhaustable until you transplant them (in existing saves, everything counts as not-yet-transplanted, because I wasn’t tracking this before)transplanted grass is good for 20 cycles per poopUSING GRASSfillers (other than twigs and petals) can no longer be used in the crock pottraps can be used 10 times instead of 5recipe changes to reduce grass usage:Torch uses 1 less grassTrap uses 2 less grassBugnet uses 1 less ropefarms cost less poop to makeGolden tools use 2 less goldPanflute uses 1 less roperope uses 1 less grasspapyrus uses 2 less reedslogsuit uses 2 less ropespear uses 1 rope instead of 2 grassstrawhat uses 12 grass instead of 25beefalo hat, beehat, tophat use no grassfootball helmet uses 3 less pigskin, 1 less ropeMISCAxe, pickaxe (and gold equivalents) last a bit longerMinerhat lasts twice as longFire fueling values have been updated: (all times for campfire, x2 for firepit)Grass gives 22.5 seconds of lightLogs give 75 seconds of lightPIGSpigs don’t eat off the ground as oftenpigs don’t eat mandrakespigs can be given veggiesmore often, and will refuse them if you try to do it too oftenpig houses take 3 days to rebuild a dead pigpigs drop either a meat or a pigskin (75%-25% split)pigs, spider, and hounds can eat pigskins Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pulpsock Posted November 30, 2012 Share Posted November 30, 2012 pigs don’t eat off the ground as oftenpigs don’t eat mandrakespigs can be given veggiesmore often, and will refuse them if you try to do it too oftenpig houses take 3 days to rebuild a dead pigpigs drop either a meat or a pigskin (75%-25% split)pigs, spider, and hounds can eat pigskinsAnd so a need for variety is mandatory. BravoP.S. 20 cycles is quite the jump, but such a vast majority of people apparently can't live without the stuff, so it'll get some happy faces, i'm sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trainer_Zero Posted November 30, 2012 Share Posted November 30, 2012 Thank you Based Kevin! This will cut the poop-grinding handily, and the deployable placement changes sound awesome. I can't wait to get home and play! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bogpad Posted November 30, 2012 Share Posted November 30, 2012 wow, thats a lot of changes. to see how this will work in the game will surely take a lot of time, but the list looks really good for now. I like the reduced pig skin droprate, and balancing it right away with the lowered costs. really good move, now let's just hope that these changes will go well with the gameplay oh, and if it's not asked too much, could you also add the fuel stats of the char coal? I always wondered how good this item is compared to woodlogs. thanks in advance! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trainer_Zero Posted November 30, 2012 Share Posted November 30, 2012 wow, thats a lot of changes. to see how this will work in the game will surely take a lot of time, but the list looks really good for now. I like the reduced pig skin droprate, and balancing it right away with the lowered costs. really good move, now let's just hope that these changes will go well with the gameplay oh, and if it's not asked too much, could you also add the fuel stats of the char coal? I always wondered how good this item is compared to woodlogs. thanks in advance!Oh yes, I'd love to know how much better charcoal is as a fuel source! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Full Metal Kirby Posted November 30, 2012 Share Posted November 30, 2012 All of these changes are rather awesome, and definitely make the game less grindy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheThorny Posted November 30, 2012 Share Posted November 30, 2012 A question on the crockpot; are seeds considered filler? I would assume no since you can cook and eat them, but I want to be sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhobicBus Posted November 30, 2012 Share Posted November 30, 2012 Looks awesome, can't wait to try this. Already loading my steam client as I type this haha. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skull Posted November 30, 2012 Share Posted November 30, 2012 I like these changes so far. Keep up the work guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rojvol Posted November 30, 2012 Share Posted November 30, 2012 I like this hotfix a lot! However I am not sure 'bout the straw hat and some other things. These are things you have to deserve so a little grind is good I think. Just my opinion. If not replanted grass does not need to fertilize, make than the moved ones to last on 10 uses. 20 is about sixty day, is not it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeedPants Posted November 30, 2012 Share Posted November 30, 2012 Kevin did i mention i want to have ur babies? I want to have ur babies.THANK YOU awesome sir!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buce_n_gar Posted November 30, 2012 Share Posted November 30, 2012 Why do the Rock Birds aggro so hard now?I was just walking through the area, had not stolen any bird eggs that game, and they start chasing me with their increased movement speed. I run all day through two forests, back to the pig village, and they won't stop chasing and the pigs won't attack them.I get it, it's a survival game, but if rock birds are going to act like werepigs, then I'll just dart and kill all of them. The pitiful amount of eggs they supply isn't worth the grief. On a related note, the rock birds haven't been laying eggs. As I walked through the area, all the nests were empty before they started to pursue. Maybe something else ate their eggs?Fix rock bird aggro please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joyousterror Posted November 30, 2012 Share Posted November 30, 2012 pigs don’t eat off the ground as oftenpigs don’t eat mandrakespigs can be given veggiesmore often, and will refuse them if you try to do it too oftenpig houses take 3 days to rebuild a dead pigpigs drop either a meat or a pigskin (75%-25% split)pigs, spider, and hounds can eat pigskinsYes, yes, yes! A great update to stop settling at pigs for infinite food your first day! This will also make it harder to mass amount pig skin just from one area. Good job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chocolate Tree Posted November 30, 2012 Share Posted November 30, 2012 I agree with the changes so far.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LavaPlume Posted November 30, 2012 Share Posted November 30, 2012 (edited) - Edited February 17, 2018 by GrowlitheAppears Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Developer Kevin Posted November 30, 2012 Author Developer Share Posted November 30, 2012 So... anyone put some hours into this build yet? I'm curious how you're finding the actual balance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midnight Tea Posted November 30, 2012 Share Posted November 30, 2012 From the intensive care this game is given with the hotfixes and regular patches, I'm really getting a sense that the devs have a lot of vision for this game. It's really creatively energizing to see. The general feeling I'm getting from Don't Starve is that it's meant to be a very harsh survival game which allows a player to hit an equilibrium, but not being able to maintain it forever without a lot of know-how that you can't just get from an online guide. (sort of like how in Dwarf Fortress, you're almost certainly doomed eventually unless you're a very experienced player)So yeah, I just wanted to say these rapid balance hotfixes are great and I'm really happy the devs are willing to let the game be a continual work in progress than shy from potential community backlash. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Full Metal Kirby Posted November 30, 2012 Share Posted November 30, 2012 So... anyone put some hours into this build yet? I'm curious how you're finding the actual balance.Just getting around to starting a new world to fully test everything out, though I am curious if the 'Cheats' button is supposed to be there on the main menu now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Developer Kevin Posted November 30, 2012 Author Developer Share Posted November 30, 2012 Cheat menu?! Aw crap....If you restart all will be well. Touching anything in there may erase your progress, so hands off! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArmageddonLove Posted November 30, 2012 Share Posted November 30, 2012 Glorious! Thank you Kevin The grass is much better now!- - - Updated - - -Glorious! Thank you Kevin The grass is much better now! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pulpsock Posted December 1, 2012 Share Posted December 1, 2012 I haven't seen the change in pig spawning. The rate is still that they come back every day. And an interesting find to see hounds go after pig bottoms (not bad, just unexpected).- - - Updated - - -I haven't seen the change in pig spawning. The rate is still that they come back every day. And an interesting find to see hounds go after pig bottoms (not bad, just unexpected). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Little Teemo Posted December 1, 2012 Share Posted December 1, 2012 i am a happy survival weeee...this hotfix is so awesomeeeeee i love it, now i can move my base around alot easier =3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LavaPlume Posted December 1, 2012 Share Posted December 1, 2012 (edited) . Edited February 17, 2018 by GrowlitheAppears Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trainer_Zero Posted December 1, 2012 Share Posted December 1, 2012 What I've played of it, I'm loving the fix. The recipe adjustments are awesome. The spear needing rope makes more sense too.But are burnt trees supposed to drop pine cones? I'm getting one about every 4 or 5 trees I burn. Not that I'm complaining...<_< 2 charcoal lasting well through the night is awesome. As Soon as I find the pig king and sell my soul for some gold, I'll start being a nomad after I build a charcoal supply. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Little Teemo Posted December 1, 2012 Share Posted December 1, 2012 I played a bit and to my mind the grass and especially the farm plots work very well. It is a bit hard to see, if the grass needs poo or not, but the characters tell us by clicking on it. Thus it's not really annoying. One time I was out of grass and didn't even notice but I strongly needed it, because it was close to darkness and I'm playing as Wilson (I want to figure out, how huge his beard can become). But without such situations it won't be as fun, as it is. And thanks for allowing us to place chest nearer, I hated the fact that there were these huge gaps between my chests - it looked horrible.I'm pretty satisfied, the game is awesome and it still gets better.let us have the longest beard XD btw is there any name i can call u instead of growlitheappear? lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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