Frosty_Mentos Posted February 23 Share Posted February 23 I dunno where to go Karen about this but I need to talk to the artist's manager whoever made this broken down wall rubble how it is. It's the damn archive turfs. They got the most grossest thickest imaginable lines and I can't do anything with them. They look overly-like newhome kind of style to not fit into DST's more detailed environment Now if you tell me that this is not lunacy I'd argue you've eaten too many moonshrooms to tell or you've got no architectural taste in the game. Or prove me wrong with build you could use archive wall and rubble on without making them look like eyesore. I think the only issue I'd say is the thickest lines they could have put imaginable and they don't fit anywhere I try to without sticking out too much. Gothic rocks, pretty, simple, detailed and ruined like a pile of pebbles I want them to be. Archive rocks. Do I need to tell how they don't work? Same for thulecite ones - I get the chunkiness and idea behind it but THE LINES JUST DON'T WORK FOR THIS! I beg for eventual correction or some respriting to be done cause the walls themselves are neat but the broken down state is EUGH Subscribe for more nightmare fuel and rants. 11 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Variant Posted February 23 Share Posted February 23 Wording could be better, but yeah, I've always ended up avoiding these walls due to their rubble state. They really stick out, they're super think outlined and under detailed compared to other walls' rubble states. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frosty_Mentos Posted February 23 Author Share Posted February 23 5 minutes ago, -Variant said: Wording could be better OOOGA BOOOGA 1 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ADM Posted February 23 Share Posted February 23 If we're talking outline thickness difference, I wanna post this. From the same mob it's hardly not noticeable. 8 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mkemal23 Posted February 23 Share Posted February 23 2 minutes ago, Frosty_Mentos said: OOOGA BOOOGA DST community when there is no update news for 0.2 seconds: Spoiler About the topic: Yeah they look really off when you compare them to Gothic one. Unfortunately, I don't see klei changing them anytime soon. Also, you have a really pretty looking base. 27 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swiyss Posted February 23 Share Posted February 23 Just now, mkemal23 said: DST community when there is no update news for 0.2 seconds: Hide contents About the topic: Yeah they look really off when you compare them to Gothic one. Unfortunately, I don't see klei changing them anytime soon. Also, you have a really pretty looking base. That's perfect timing right there 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChintzyGnat Posted February 23 Share Posted February 23 Thick lines can be bad but what if I told you nitre still doesn't have an HD texture 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Variant Posted February 23 Share Posted February 23 2 hours ago, ChintzyGnat said: Thick lines can be bad but what if I told you nitre still doesn't have an HD texture I would say that while upsetting, it is understandable as whilst most things have been converted, some are left over. Other notable examples are most things from RoT, such as Skitter Squids. I think birch nuts are another LQ early game item. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhackE Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 you are not going insane. The archive walls, and their rubble look like they're from Newhome. Both archive wall skins need to have an art revision. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
. . . Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 (edited) They really are out of place and I don't use them either because the lines are just way too thick it looks unnatural. It would be nice if Klei could fix it and other items like ADM showed for consistency sake. 11 hours ago, ChintzyGnat said: Thick lines can be bad but what if I told you nitre still doesn't have an HD texture Ya, a good amount of stuff still don't have HD texture it's sad. foliage / Fern (super low res) moonrock_seed / Celestial Orb (super low res) rock_moon_shell / Suspicious Boulder (The moon boulder that drops celestial orb) bird_eggs / Egg, Rotten Egg, Cooked Egg (super low res) crater_pool / (Lunar) Hot Spring (super low res) boat_repair_tape_build / Using Winona's tape to patch a boat leak (super low res) glass_mining_fx / Mining moon glass boulders (super low res) brightmare_gestalt / Gesalts swap_bullkelproot / Bull Kelp Stalk (Whip) boat_leak_build / Boat leaks fishbones / The fish skeletons on lunar island moon_fissure_fx / Celestial Fissures moon_tree_petal / Lune Tree Blossom spider_mound_mutated / Shattered spider hole star_trap / Anenemy (super low res) cook_pot_food / Crockpot foods (some of the newer ones are HD like the fig crockpot foods, but the ones we've had since forever and even newer releases are LQ and even the ones we had forever like meatballs they are lower res than the ones in DS Hamlet! ALL the foods should be as HD as the fig crockpot foods) salt / Salt (super low res) berries_juicy / corn / dragonfruit / durian / garlic / pepper / eggplant / pumpkin / pomegrante / asparagus / onion / watermelon / berries / tomato / Basically, all crops (low res) cookiecuttershell / Not only low res but the outline is super thin which makes it look super ugly compared to other items (EXTREME LOW RES) All non-canary birds / Any bird which isn't the canary is lower res than the canary, they should all be HD like the canary squid_build / Skittersquid eel / Eel spoiled_fish / spoiled_fish_small / Rotten fish (super low res) All ocean fish / Ocean fish are all low res compared to pond fish acorn / Birch Nut (super low res) moon_altar and all of its related textures / The thing you build on the lunar island to craft lunar stuff gnarwail deerclops / Deerclops is low res compared to the lunar possessed deerclops which is super HD. It doesn't help that deerclops is upscaled via code which makes it look even blurrier in game with its lower res texture bearger / Bearger is low res compared to the super HD bearger_mutated (lunar possessed bearger) barnacle / (super low res) barnacle_burr / (super low res) shadow_wavey_jones / shadow_wavey_jones_hand / Wavey Jones (low res) lightning / The actual lightning (super low res) Basically everything unique to the lunar grotto archives in the caves lightflier / Bulbous Lightbug (super low res) moon_cap / Lunar mushroom (super low res) fruitflyfruit butter cactus_meat batwing / (super low res) charcoal / (super low res) drumstick / (super low res) nitre / (super low res) drumstick / (super low res) tentaclespots / (super low res) tentacle_spike / When on the ground (super low res) stinger / (super low res) ice / It's such an important texture too (super low res) ice_boulder / (super low res) mining_ice_fx tentaclespots / (super low res) redlantern / (super low res) spider_white / compared to the other spiders their texture is very low res explode / the explosion effect when gunpowder explodes forcefield / the forcefield effect of the thulecite crown frozen_shatter / the effect when stuff break out of being frozen impact / the effect when you whip stuff or i think hit things with projectile weapons deer_antler / the antlers no-eyed deer drop crafting_table / the Ancient Pseudoscience Station fossil_piece / Fossil Fragment monkey_barrel / Spluemonkey pods ALL mushroom trees nightmare_crack_ruins / Nightmare fissures petrified_tree / petrified_tree_tall / petrified_trunk_break / petrified_tree_fx / petrified_tree_short / Rock evergreens nesting_ground / Moose goose is nest stuff on the floor poop_cloud / the effect when you use poop as fuel pig_torch / Pig guard totems forest_glowberry fossil_stalker / when you assemble the fuelweaver's skeleton with fossils igloo_track / the effect of an abandoned walrus igloo on the ground koalephant_trunk klaus_bag / Klaus Sack sand_spike / Antloin's sand spike attacks shadowheart / Shadow Artrium heart pillar_cave / pillar_cave_flintless / pillar_cave_rock / pillar_stalactite / pillar_algae / pillar_atrium / All the big rock pillars in the caves ruins_rubble smoke_plants / I think this is the smoldering effect walrus_tusk marble_pillar / marble_trees / marbleshrub mining_fx / when you mine a rock tallbird_egg / funnily enough it's not low res in the tallbird's texture mapscroll_cave / compared to the mapscroll it's crazy low res and it's just a recolor lol wagstaff_tools / (super low res) slurtle / slurtle_snaily / hat_slurtle / hat_slurtle / slurtle_mound / slurtle_slime / Basically, everything slurtle/snurtle related except for armor_slurtleshell and shell pieces (super low res) wave_shimmer_deep / wave_shimmer_deep / wave_shimmer_deep / Most wave effects in the ocean Winona's unique craftables Everything related to Wortox souls All the quagmire / Gorge textures except the pigeon so they can't even be used for modding purposes if you want them to look nice And the worst of all... the ground textures for turf which you can clearly see when you zoom in how blurry it is Lol there's probably other low quality textures, but that's my compiled list. 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-Variant Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 12 minutes ago, . . . said: All non-canary birds / Any bird which isn't the canary is lower res than the canary, they should all be HD like the canary These are HD! They're a few notches down compared to the raw art of the Canary, but they're not their LQ original art anymore! 14 minutes ago, . . . said: spider_white / compared to the other spiders their texture is very low res These are also HD! They had their build edited to allow for it, since making them HD didn't work with their webbing originally. Otherwise yeah, there's still quite a lot of LQ stuff left. I personally hope for the mobs to be tackled first, I see them a lot. Basic items too, at that. The more common ones! 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arubaro Posted February 25 Share Posted February 25 I wish they reduce the thick lines like they did with grass walls back in the day 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
. . . Posted February 25 Share Posted February 25 On 2/24/2024 at 3:11 AM, -Variant said: These are HD! They are definitely not super low-quality like before, but as their counterparts are more HD it would be nice for consistency sake for them to all equally have textures as HD as one another instead of most of them in the spider's case are super HD except for the white spider and in birds case only the canary is super HD while the rest are lower quality than it. Consistency is good especially when it comes to graphic fidelity ! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Variant Posted February 25 Share Posted February 25 2 minutes ago, . . . said: spider's case are super HD except for the white spider Oh I can dream, I have no excuse for the birds, but there's a reason this spider isn't super HD. The webbing isn't optimized properly, and would need its dropping animation redone if it wanted to become super HD. It takes up a lot of atlas space, which is why it was the last to be updated in the first place. But yes, I agree, I'd kill for consistent HD banks. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Notecja Posted February 25 Share Posted February 25 You are going insane BUT it's fully right ;_; these walls could be revisited and few other things too. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gi-Go Posted February 26 Share Posted February 26 Guess I'm not a megabaser. All I see are a bunch of broken walls. I can't tell which ones are ugly they all look like a bunch of rocks. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dzzydzzy Posted February 26 Share Posted February 26 On 2/23/2024 at 11:38 AM, Frosty_Mentos said: It's the damn archive turfs. I'm almost positive you mean wall skins. However, I am curious how you and other die-hard DST fans feel about the original turfs of the game being lower quality compared to newer HD turfs. And do we think we'll ever see those other turfs become HD? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frosty_Mentos Posted February 26 Author Share Posted February 26 3 hours ago, dzzydzzy said: I'm almost positive you mean wall skins. However, I am curious how you and other die-hard DST fans feel about the original turfs of the game being lower quality compared to newer HD turfs. And do we think we'll ever see those other turfs become HD? wall skins Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Kiyo- Posted February 27 Share Posted February 27 On 2/23/2024 at 4:38 PM, Frosty_Mentos said: I love this road design! I personally would wish for all walls to go back to softer outlines like they used to be, and continue to be in singleplayer. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhackE Posted February 27 Share Posted February 27 5 hours ago, -Kiyo- said: I personally would wish for all walls to go back to softer outlines like they used to be, and continue to be in singleplayer. finally! Someone other than me knows what walls should look like. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheggf Posted February 27 Share Posted February 27 On 2/25/2024 at 5:54 PM, -Variant said: Oh I can dream, I have no excuse for the birds, but there's a reason this spider isn't super HD. The webbing isn't optimized properly, and would need its dropping animation redone if it wanted to become super HD. It takes up a lot of atlas space, which is why it was the last to be updated in the first place. But yes, I agree, I'd kill for consistent HD banks. Would it be possible for all of the spider to improve in quality except for the webbing animation which stays lower quality so it abruptly becomes better looking when it finishes the animation? Or is there something behind the scenes that would prevent that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Variant Posted February 27 Share Posted February 27 2 hours ago, Cheggf said: Or is there something behind the scenes that would prevent that? The webbing is "part of the spider". Every other spider is as HD as they can get right now, since they don't use webbing. White Spiders/Dwellers use their webbing in the descending animation. This webbing is baked into their atlas, so making the spiders any more HD would also make the webbing HD, which means more space taken in the atlas. Get's too big, it's unusable. It's essentially part of the spider itself, in that sense. So leaving it LQ wouldn't do much. What they could do is remove it from the build entirely and make it into a override build... this'd let any spider use the webbing, which'd be nice for modders and would probably allow for the Dweller to get that tiny quality boost, but I don't know if the effort is on the table right now. Lest, that's my theory for the simplest fix. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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