Are DLC characters canon?

[maciu67]

Lately I've been thinking if paid characters belong in the - let's call it - official Don't Starve story. They don't appear in the content updates and they didn't even appear in the farm update where they were all (even the Wormwood that was previously in Hamlet). I don't know if the Terraria crossover can be canon either. What do you think?

[ShadowDuelist]

I think they are canon, just not very important to the main arcs.

[Harrowick]

11 minutes ago, ShadowDuelist said:

I think they are canon, just not very important to the main arcs.

This!

I think the DLC characters are often just off doing their own things to the side!

[maxwell_winters]

Wurt was in the Eye of The Storm trailer and the WX short. Wormwood appears on promo art pretty often. Wortox was in the center of the Terraria crossover. The only one that doesn't show up in animations is Wanda but I hope they'll fix that soon.

Warly and Wigfrid are also just doing their thing. They have some backstory but they're not as important to the overarching story as Maxwell, Winona and Wilson. The same goes for DLC characters. 

[Ulisesvolador]

Wurt - Appears in the WX-78 short and the RoT "Eye of the Storm" trailer. I think Wurt is canon because she appears in those important videos and Wurt being canon doesn't change the lore of DST it just means that there's a friendly merm that helps the survivors sometimes.

Wortox - Only appears in the "An Eye for an Eye" crossover trailer. I don't know what to think about Wortox, in one hand he doesn't appear in any important Arc trailer, in the other Wortox being canon doesn't change the lore so much, it just implies that there are other dimensions.

Wormwood - Only appears in the RoT "Reap what you sow" update trailer. He appears in the RoT Arc, however not in the ideal form, he should've appeared in a "Moon" related RoT story trailer like "Eye of the Storm" because we know that he is connected to the "Moon", but that connection wasn't explored properly, so we don't know if he is canon or not.

Wanda - Doesn't appear in any video other than her short. The most problematic character in the lore, she never appears in any Arc, we don't know what her objectives are (if we don't count not starving and not running out of time), her existence implies that different timelines exist in DST and we might never know if she is canon or not until an important event or the very end of DST story.

[-Variant]

I believe it's been stated in the past that the DLC characters are all canon but not impactful on the main story events.
Characters like Wanda and Wormwood exist in canon but they aren't going to be pivotal to the lore! At least, that's my recollection.

[lowercase skye]

A good rule of thumb for this stuff: unless a piece of content is explicitly called non-canon in-game or by a developer, it's canon! There's this weird attitude that's spread through this community that things aren't canon unless they're directly relevant to the main story of specifically DST, but nah, that's not how media works. DLC characters are canon, SW/hamlet are canon, the Forge and Gorge are canon, Newhome is canon, etc. I've never seen any other fanbase debate what is and isn't canon to such a degree, because it's as simple as something being in an official installment of a series. Something being non-canon is an exception and it's usually made very clear when such a thing is true.

[Captain_Rage]

2 minutes ago, sylvia wander o said:

There's this weird attitude that's spread through this community that things aren't canon unless they're directly relevant to the main story of specifically DST

This community is very special at times . (Thanks, devs, for not listening to most suggestions which show up in the forums, because they are frankly outright bad. This is an honest opinion and not a joke ).

[Cheggf]

Why wouldn't they be canon?

[Evelo]

58 minutes ago, -Variant said:

Characters like Wanda and Wormwood exist in canon but they aren't going to be pivotal to the lore! At least, that's my recollection.

Just you wait. Wormwood will harness the full power of Shadow and Moon becoming the ultimate entity, not even Maxwell when he sat on the Nightmare throne will be remotely close to the grand design of Wormwood. ALL WILL BE FRIENDS!

[HowlVoid]

2 minutes ago, Evelo said:

Just you wait. Wormwood will harness the full power of Shadow and Moon becoming the ultimate entity, not even Maxwell when he sat on the Nightmare throne will be remotely close to the grand design of Wormwood. ALL WILL BE FRIENDS!

Hear, hear! Wormwood will perform infinite tsukuyomi and enshroud the world in eternal friendship.

[Mike23Ua]

NewHome is NOT canon, it’s not even made by Klei.. and they stated that in the official NewHome announcement a few years back. Rules may have changed over the years- but until they state it’s Canon, I’m gonna consider NewHome as a Spin-Off made by another Company that had the Permission of Klei to use the DS/DST property.

Kinda like how Gotham Knights is Non-Canon to Arkham Asylum, City & Knight.

I’m not even sure if the Terraria Cross-Over was considered Canon.

However- DS/SW/HAM/Forge/Gorge & DST all are officially considered Canon. Therefore- Warly & Wormwood are Canon. Walter who is visually seen looking for Woodie & sticking his nose where it doesn’t belong = Canon. Wanda who officially breaks the time line continuum or whatever it is she’s doing is Canon.

What ISNT Canon (or atleast Klei originally stated was not canon) was the Monster DLC characters Wurt & Wortox however since they’ve both been part of the constant since before the survivors even got there.. (minus maybe Maxwell who supposedly created it all..) there’s an argument to be had that even THEY are canon too.

However- they may not be very important to the overall story arch narrative Klei is trying to tell.

Aka: Wortox who can teleport in and out of the constant at any time he pleases and apparently also bring back items (the terrarium) with him into the constant can’t be canon because if he WAS.. he could’ve just grabbed one of the other survivors and teleported them out of the constant X-men Nightcrawler style.

[lowercase skye]

22 minutes ago, Mike23Ua said:

NewHome is NOT canon, it’s not even made by Klei.. and they stated that in the official NewHome announcement a few years back. Rules may have changed over the years- but until they state it’s Canon, I’m gonna consider NewHome as a Spin-Off made by another Company that had the Permission of Klei to use the DS/DST property.

That's not how media works. Newhome isn't made by Klei, no, but it's an officially licensed game in the Don't Starve series. It was not stated at all that Newhome is non-canon, people just said it without any actual reason.

22 minutes ago, Mike23Ua said:

Aka: Wortox who can teleport in and out of the constant at any time he pleases and apparently also bring back items (the terrarium) with him into the constant can’t be canon because if he WAS.. he could’ve just grabbed one of the other survivors and teleported them out of the constant X-men Nightcrawler style.

He could do that yeah. But he doesn't. He's Wortox! He's a goofster!

22 minutes ago, Mike23Ua said:

What ISNT Canon (or atleast Klei originally stated was not canon) was the Monster DLC characters Wurt & Wortox however since they’ve both been part of the constant since before the survivors even got there.. (minus maybe Maxwell who supposedly created it all..) there’s an argument to be had that even THEY are canon too.

This was also never stated: what was stated was simply that Wortox, and other future DLC characters (keep in mind, this was said when literally only Wortox existed), would not be important to the overall story of Don't Starve Together. That being said, even THAT is outdated: see Wormwood and Walter (who was originally intended to be a DLC character).

[Juanasdf]

I like to think Wanda is just doing her thing (whatever that is...) instead of actively helping the survivors, hence why she doesn't appear in shorts, like doing mundane things (for example we've seen maxwell carrying twigs). That and hopping through different timelines.

It fits her in game character, since you don't need more than her watches to survive, and her mobility means you can't expect her to be on the same place for a long period of time.

But as other said, they are canon, just probably not important to the lore (though hopefully Wanda will be important, just hoping it's not a deus ex machina)

[Paxtonnnn]

I honestly like Wanda both being closely connected to major pieces of the lore like timelines and the shadows, while at the same time having no impact on it. It's kinda funny, and fits her theme of both knowing everything that's going to happen and nothing.

[Juanasdf]

I really do hope they explain how she got nightmare fuel for her time pieces outside of the constant

Honestly that's all she needs to be relevant in the lore

[Paxtonnnn]

13 minutes ago, Juanasdf said:

I really do hope they explain how she got nightmare fuel for her time pieces outside of the constant

Honestly that's all she needs to be relevant in the lore

She made a deal with the shadows, so she probably just got it from them that way.

[-Variant]

3 hours ago, Evelo said:

Just you wait. Wormwood will harness the full power of Shadow and Moon becoming the ultimate entity, not even Maxwell when he sat on the Nightmare throne will be remotely close to the grand design of Wormwood. ALL WILL BE FRIENDS!

I unironically do think that out of all the DLC characters Wormwood is the one that's gonna be able to get away with having slightly more importance. 
I still love that Wormwood is the only character that knows about the Archives, and more notably is able to solve the puzzle. It's such a "Wait what the hell" moment when you realize it, I love it to death.

[Mike23Ua]

1 minute ago, Juanasdf said:

I like to think Wanda is just doing her thing (whatever that is...) instead of actively helping the survivors, hence why she doesn't appear in shorts, like doing mundane things (for example we've seen maxwell carrying twigs). That and hopping through different timelines.

It fits her in game character, since you don't need more than her watches to survive, and her mobility means you can't expect her to be on the same place for a long period of time.

But as other said, they are canon, just probably not important to the lore (though hopefully Wanda will be important, just hoping it's not a deus ex machina)

Actually.. Wanda’s in game compendium describes that her watches “Broke” permanently trapping her inside the Constant, so even though her watches let her “time travel” it only lets her age her self backwards and NOT jump from dimension to dimension anymore. She’s just as stuck there as everyone else now.

[Evelo]

51 minutes ago, -Variant said:

I still love that Wormwood is the only character that knows about the Archives, and more notably is able to solve the puzzle. It's such a "Wait what the hell" moment when you realize it, I love it to death.

Which quote are you referring to? The Distilled Knowledge examination? (After looking it up on the Wiki, yeah Wormwood is the only one. I've yet to play someone else and get distilled knowledge. Today I learned)

[-Variant]

7 minutes ago, Evelo said:

Which quote are you referring to? The Distilled Knowledge examination? (After looking it up on the Wiki, yeah Wormwood is the only one. I've yet to play someone else and get distilled knowledge. Today I learned)

Yeah!! It's so subtle yet direct. I love it to death.
I always had a fun little thought that Wormwood was sent down to help guide the survivors into awakening Alter, like the Chosen One, seeing that made me smile.

[BezKa]

6 hours ago, sylvia wander o said:

Newhome is canon, etc.

It has been said by developers it isn't.

[lowercase skye]

Just now, BezKa said:

It has been said by developers it isn't.

Can I get a source on this? It's being mentioned in this thread a bunch but I've been keeping a pretty close eye on Newhome since it was announced and I haven't seen anything of the sort.

[Juanasdf]

2 hours ago, Mike23Ua said:

Actually.. Wanda’s in game compendium describes that her watches “Broke” permanently trapping her inside the Constant, so even though her watches let her “time travel” it only lets her age her self backwards and NOT jump from dimension to dimension anymore. She’s just as stuck there as everyone else now.

Huh, based on her quotes I thought she had seen countless of constant's timelines, since she's always confused as to wether something already happened or not.

Gameplay-wise it makes sense, since you replay the events, lorewise I thought that (if or when DST story finishes) the  timeline were they don't perish would be the canon one.

[BezKa]

21 minutes ago, sylvia wander o said:

Can I get a source on this? It's being mentioned in this thread a bunch but I've been keeping a pretty close eye on Newhome since it was announced and I haven't seen anything of the sort.

I was pretty sure I remembered JoeW mentioning how it's not canon as a response to someone, but I get fake memories all the time.

When you look at the newhome announcement thread though, it's worded pretty explicitly that Klei have literally nothing to do with the making of this game. They don't do art, or music, or programming, or ads- neither story or anything. They just let them use the IP.

I really doubt something like this would be canon.