More recipes Wurt can't eat.

[Trevindo]

Today my friends came here to cry for Wurt!
The new recipes are all egg and vegetable based, but she can't eat, even though she eats recipes that may have eggs as a filling. But that's no surprise, because I think everyone knows that Wurt is neither vegetarian nor vegan (not least because she loves a pig's head on the stake!), but a herbivorous creature. That's because being a vegetarian is a choice, but Wurt just can't eat meat (Her stomach doesn't digest it, and it can even hurt), that is, nothing prevents her from eating eggs, since many herbivores, especially ovovivipers (I don't know if merms lay eggs), can consume eggs.
Pss: I'm a strict vegetarian myself and I eat eggs!

[IanKSB91]

I guess it would make sense, merms are part fish and part frog and both of those animals can eat eggs.

[Trevindo]

Wurt is currently able to eat ice cream and wear the "Milkmade Hat", both have milk as an ingredient, in addition, more experienced Wurt players make "Fist Full of Jam" with a fruit and fill it with eggs, so allow that Wurt eats the new recipes just confirm what she already does. Also Wurt eats honey which is another animal product (and I don't eat it myself since I'm a vegetarian).

[Dextops]

POV: you're a wurt main and klei added new recipes 

[Mysterious box]

27 minutes ago, Trevindo said:

Wurt is currently able to eat ice cream and wear the "Milkmade Hat", both have milk as an ingredient, in addition, more experienced Wurt players make "Fist Full of Jam" with a fruit and fill it with eggs, so allow that Wurt eats the new recipes just confirm what she already does. Also Wurt eats honey which is another animal product (and I don't eat it myself since I'm a vegetarian).

Vegan and Vegetarian are different things though some types of vegetarians eat dairy vegans some vegetarians do not but even then there are different kinds of vegetarians I would assume merms are lacto vegetarians and the egg in crockpot thing is likely just a design oversight due to game logic.

[Trevindo]

19 hours ago, Mysterious box said:

Vegan and Vegetarian are different things though some types of vegetarians eat dairy vegans some vegetarians do not but even then there are different kinds of vegetarians I would assume merms are lacto vegetarians and the egg in crockpot thing is likely just a design oversight due to game logic.

Alright, let's get into some definitions:

Veganism: Lifestyle whose purpose is to deny the consumption or use of products derived from animal suffering as far as possible for the individual reality of each one, that is, vegans can consume meat if it is to survive or consume products of animal origin. as long as there is no animal suffering
(Example: Meat produced by growing cells in the laboratory).

Vegetarianism: Restrictive diet that is based on the denial of consumption of any and all animal products, that is, vegetarians cannot eat products of animal origin regardless of the origin of the product, but this is restricted only to the diet, since vegetarians can use animal-based products (Example: Leather and wool).

Restricted Vegetarian: Diet that comprises a broad group of vegetarians who occasionally consume some products of animal origin (Milk, eggs, honey and more rarely insects), with the non-consumption of meat being a common point.

Having explained these points, what all these definitions have in common is that they are all choices. Wurt didn't choose to be a vegetarian, she's a herbivore (Even because I think Wurt would love to be able to eat pork) and herbivores commonly eat eggs, milk is something to talk about...

Trying to explain what merms are:

The merms as a species is something very strange, they look like amphibians, but no amphibian can consume milk, because it is necessary to have the Lactase enzyme to be able to digest milk (Common only in mammals, because newborns feed on it).
Taking this into account, I believe that merms are mammals that inhabited islands that were flooded during rainy seasons and evolved to move between ocean and land, which may explain the taste for algae, and generally shorebird eggs are also often found in the sea. menu.

Merms have social intelligence, language, identify themselves by names and are able to organize themselves into cooperative communities around a leader which seems strange and I think this may suggest that merm are an offshoot of the human species that got stuck in the "Constant" for thousands of years. Something similar is shown in "The Gorge", only when you play Wurt in the Gorge you are transformed into a pig (suggesting a kinship between the species?).

[ArubaroBeefalo]

dont treat wurts downside as bad as wigfrid's is treated

[Trevindo]

19 minutes ago, ArubaroBeefalo said:

dont treat wurts downside as bad as wigfrid's is treated

Wigfrid can eat all new recipes even though he doesn't have meat, and Wigfrid has improved versions of the recipes:
Break Skillet: It's the "Pieroge" only it heals less.
Tall Scotch Eggs: It's the "Meaty Stew" only much harder to make and heals more.

Plus Wigfrid can now eat ice cream!!!!

[ArubaroBeefalo]

29 minutes ago, Trevindo said:

Wigfrid can eat all new recipes even though he doesn't have meat, and Wigfrid has improved versions of the recipes:
Break Skillet: It's the "Pieroge" only it heals less.
Tall Scotch Eggs: It's the "Meaty Stew" only much harder to make and heals more.

Plus Wigfrid can now eat ice cream!!!!

that was my point. I dont like it for wigfrid so i dont want that for wurt

[Trevindo]

1 hour ago, ArubaroBeefalo said:

that was my point. I dont like it for wigfrid so i dont want that for wurt

So, I explained why it makes sense for Wurt to be able to eat eggs, that won't change the fact that Wurt doesn't eat meat, but if you're so keen on sticking with "Only vegetables", ask Klei not to let you Wurt eat recipes with milk, honey and recipes that call for egg filling.

[Mysterious box]

5 hours ago, Trevindo said:

The merms as a species is something very strange, they look like amphibians, but no amphibian can consume milk, because it is necessary to have the Lactase enzyme to be able to digest milk (Common only in mammals, because newborns feed on it).
Taking this into account, I believe that merms are mammals that inhabited islands that were flooded during rainy seasons and evolved to move between ocean and land, which may explain the taste for algae, and generally shorebird eggs are also often found in the sea. menu.

I shall instead support the death of milk for Wurt still quite informative ty.

[Notecja]

I believe its rather game design (maybe even intended), as foods are mostly in three categories: meat, goodie (mostly sweets) and veggie (originally ice cream was in veggie, which was quite not logical).

New recipes can count or as veggie or as meat. Definitely don't fit "goodie" category, so we are left with "meat" or "veggie".

Tall scorch eggs require veggie and tallbird egg, but because of its look I would leave in foods for Wigfrid. (She shouldn't complain, she hunted that food!)

Plain omelette require just eggs, so still stays in meat.

But breakfast skillet... It doesn't allow any meats, require a small egg and veggie. So recipe should count as veggie.

[Evelo]

Are Eggs... not meat? They are potential embryos that have yet to be fertilized. That seems like a meat product to me.
Unlike dairy which is an animal made liquid that is meant to feed their young with no potential to become something else. (Well cheese or butter but you get the idea)

[Masked Koopa]

5 hours ago, Evelo said:

Are Eggs... not meat? They are potential embryos that have yet to be fertilized. That seems like a meat product to me.
Unlike dairy which is an animal made liquid that is meant to feed their young with no potential to become something else. (Well cheese or butter but you get the idea)

If the egg isn't fertilised first then it aint ever gonna become an embryo let alone a creature. It's just a bunch of fats n proteins. It certainly wouldn't have a makeup that would be hard to digest for herbivores compared to meats. 

[Archswifter]

I'm sure the day will come when they'll add more veggie related crockpot dishes.

On 10/3/2022 at 8:00 PM, Trevindo said:

more experienced Wurt players make "Fist Full of Jam" with a fruit and fill it with eggs, so allow that Wurt eats the new recipes just confirm what she already does.

This is also kind of silly in all honesty, just because you can use something as a filler in a recipe doesn't mean the resulting dish itself has that ingredient in it. If that were the case then I should be able to eat sticks because I made a Dragon Pie with them.

In the end I think it comes to preference versus biology, Wigfrid can eat foods with veggies in them like the Leafy Meat Dishes because she's still a human capable of doing so, and Wurt can't because she's physically unable to digest that sort of food to begin with.
I'm no expert in Merm Physiology but that seems like the most likely reason why she won't eat some of these things.

[SirToastyToes]

Wurt players when their one downside actually has an effect on gameplay 

[flamboyant wolf]

20 minutes ago, SirToastyToes said:

Wurt players when their one downside actually has an effect on gameplay 

well, technicly we also have the pig king thing. 

[Dextops]

44 minutes ago, SirToastyToes said:

Wurt players when their one downside actually has an effect on gameplay 

Dst players when downsides exist (at least they used to)

[abrocator]

12 hours ago, Evelo said:

Are Eggs... not meat? They are potential embryos that have yet to be fertilized.

Potential embryos? This is Canada, not pro-life Alabama or something.

Or maybe this is China.

[Creatorofswamps]

Just to remind you that Wurt can eat this:

[lakhnish]

What recipes are we talking about here?

[kaTome]

The new egg recipes

[lakhnish]

38 minutes ago, marlamade said:

The new egg recipes

I should have clarified.

What Wurt recipes are being affected by the change/ people are finding hard to make now?

I want to make sure since if it's something like fist full of jam, I'm pretty sure eggs are still viable, just that you have to use 2 eggs instead of 3.

[SapoLover]

There's lore about why Wurt can't eat eggs:

Spoiler

I like to think she can't eat eggs when it's obvius the dish contains them, but because is not really harmful for her, she can eat them when she doesn't know the dish contains them.

Spoiler

 Sorry, Wurt blinked.

However, if something is going to be done about this, I would like it to be Wurt not being able to eat eggs at all and eggs not being able to be used as filler for veggie dishes. There are uses for meat other than turn them into eggs. Meat can be used for making hambats and monster meat is really good to repair the eyemask and the shield of terror. The other kinds of meat are rare if you're not actively searching them. You can always let them turn into rot to make marsh turf or fertilize plants. Also, fist full of jam can be prepared with one berry and three ice.

[Trevindo]

1 hour ago, DeadWhereX said:

There's lore about why Wurt can't eat eggs:

  Reveal hidden contents

I like to think she can't eat eggs when it's obvius the dish contains them, but because is not really harmful for her, she can eat them when she doesn't know the dish contains them.

  Hide contents

 Sorry, Wurt blinked.

However, if something is going to be done about this, I would like it to be Wurt not being able to eat eggs at all and eggs not being able to be used as filler for veggie dishes. There are uses for meat other than turn them into eggs. Meat can be used for making hambats and monster meat is really good to repair the eyemask and the shield of terror. The other kinds of meat are rare if you're not actively searching them. You can always let them turn into rot to make marsh turf or fertilize plants. Also, fist full of jam can be prepared with one berry and three ice.

I think you're playing more than the character says. Wurt is a curious merm girl, that's all I can conclude.

Wurt has never had a problem eating recipes that could include an egg option, but she always doesn't consume recipes that can include a meat option. And I don't know if you know, but Wurt is not even an innocent child, so much so that she laughs when she sees pigs' heads on stakes, she doesn't consume meat out of an empathy with animals, her species is simply disgusted, so much so that she doesn't eat meat vegetable for not liking the taste (Since it's something she could theoretically eat).