Do you think beefalo domestication should receive a quality of life upgrade?

[niplu]

I want to be able to use the bundling wraps while sitting on a beefalo

[Bryan1024B]

I think they should improve the Pudgy and make it easier to get it as it is the most useless trend but at the same time the most complicated to get. 

[DajeKotlyar]

I think it's good as is. Maybe some changes in beefalo AI, make it smarter.

For example, push it to avoid traps and angry mobs.

And I want some kind of feeder. To store food, twigs and grass, which beefalo can eat and raise domestication.

 

[goatt]

2 major quality of life:

1. HP indicator. Currently, we only have one HP indicator, that is the red screen when the beefalo has ≤ 200 HP. Since we have increased boss' damage in recent patches, and added Celestial Champion, which deals massive damage in one go, the 200 HP notification is usually not effective in saving the beefalo from death. So I suggest beefalo should have two HP indicators at 200 HP and 600 HP.

2. Domestication progress indicator at 60%. Because tamed beefalo's domestication naturally decreases, and we have no idea how worse it is, we need a warning or a reminder that it's getting wild so that we can fix it. The indicator can be a message from examining beef, or a special animation.

 

Vanilla beefalo domestication is pretty much a dark unknown box, which is fine as is. But we need indicators or beefalo animations to warn us about beefalo's status just like the existing 200HP red screen, because a tamed beefalo require a major 2 hour+ effort. This effort deserves some minor QoL.

[Cheggf]

What's wrong with the domestication? The only things I can think of to be improved aren't related to domestication, like being able to tell the health better than the binary above or below 20% we have right now.

Or I guess accidentally punching them is really annoying. They could make it so that a bonded beefalo needs to be control clicked.

[ShadowDuelist]

Most of the things I came to say have been said already:

13 hours ago, ArubaroBeefalo said:

I would be fine with salt licks with less colission

This is specially important when you take your cow on a boat. It has a huge collision placement area for no reason.
 

12 hours ago, Picklesaurus said:

The only things I'd change is I'd like to be able to refill salt licks instead of having to break them to build another one and buff pudgy tendency somehow that is not just a higher sanity regen.

 

11 hours ago, x0-VERSUS-1y said:

Maybe some hurt visual cues when it reaches 50% hp, respectively 20%, 10% or the like.

All of the the above, and I'd add being able to wake it up when trying to feed them. Having to try to ride it for it to fall asleep again almost instantly can get old really fast, specially during long winter nights (and absurdly annoying during lights out).

Unpopular opinion: I like that they litter poop so much, I use my beefalo to keep my plants always fertilized and it also provides me fuel for my winter fires. I know you can get a ton of poop with werepigs, but the beefalo allows you to just not do that if you passively collect poop as you do other things (as you would when walking your dog around the city!)

[Capybara007]

beefalo domestication is good where it is, and its fun too

[Ohan]

31 minutes ago, ShadowDuelist said:

Unpopular opinion: I like that they litter poop so much, I use my beefalo to keep my plants always fertilized and it also provides me fuel for my winter fires. I know you can get a ton of poop with werepigs, but the beefalo allows you to just not do that if you passively collect poop as you do other things (as you would when walking your dog around the city!)

100% 

the poop supply is a huge boon. Especially if u spend the entire first autumn on beef back working on domestication with little time for chopping wood, the poop is free passive firepit fuel generation for the coming winter. 
This shines even more when u take it on a boat in the colder seasons, constant raging firepit to light ur way at 0 cost. In summer u can use it to fuel the lamp thing. 
and then theres nutrients for farming as well. 

Before beef domestication was a thing and before i really got into it i used to track down a koala and leave it at my base precisely for the passive poop supply lol. 

U can already stop it from littering ur base with the grooming station which comes with the added benefit of always keeping ur ornery beef ready to be fed and unhitched for riding. 

[themightyone]

Maybe a new saddle or some type of hard to craft armor or storage pouch , and a salt lick buff. Overall I'm pretty happy with taming but some cool new items might be ok. Don't make it any easier to tame than it already is though.

[Evelo]

1 hour ago, themightyone said:

Maybe a new saddle or some type of hard to craft armor or storage pouch , and a salt lick buff. Overall I'm pretty happy with taming but some cool new items might be ok. Don't make it any easier to tame than it already is though.

It would be cool to have various saddles, with the current 3 you tend to use the base saddle initially then swap to War Saddle or Gossomer depending on what type of beefalo you are using, the Saddlehorn really doesn't see use. Adding a Storage Saddle or an Armor saddle would be a huge boon to the saddle horn. However considering the Armor Saddle and War Saddle are similar one being offensive the other being defensive it seems a little redundant potentially.

[oregu]

18 hours ago, Ohan said:

Hitch it to a Beefalo Grooming Station.

Still doesn't stop producing manure while you're riding it. Just creates a lot of unneeded entities and is not really a benefit to anyone as mass producing manure can be done in other ways. It would make sense if when you tamed a beefalo it would also be potty trained. Seeds are already a fire hazard to the base when it comes to morning stars, manure just makes it worse. Don't get why having a beefalo tamer around has to be associated with the sound of flies being all over the place and having to clean more.

[Ohan]

15 minutes ago, oregu said:

Still doesn't stop producing manure while you're riding it.

Thats not been a thing since YotB. 

The solution to stop it from littering ur base is already there and very simple. It would be strange if domesticated beefalos suddenly stopped being.. beefalos. 

[oregu]

Also make the War Saddle do 17 additional damage instead of 16 so there's more a reason to use it. Ornery Beefalo don't reach the 67 dmg threshhold. Doing this would make it be able to kill stuff in less hits. I know it's kind of a nitpick but yeah.

Just now, Ohan said:

Thats not been a thing since YotB. 

The solution to stop it from littering ur base is already there and very simple. It would be strange if domesticated beefalos suddenly stopped being.. beefalos. 

Apologies, by riding I mean when you're not hitching. I mean when you're trying to tame it and even if you're riding it the max time (1.# something days) it still makes manure almost daily and that can add up quickly.

Just now, Ohan said:

The solution to stop it from littering ur base is already there and very simple. It would be strange if domesticated beefalos suddenly stopped being.. beefalos. 

I mean... as you said it doesn't make manure when riding or hitching. Players don't make manure so I guess once can only assume... yeah.

Also something that's kind of been bothering me is when people threaten me by hitting my beefalo on servers. It'd be pretty cool if only when the player that has the bell (or last rode it if it's not bonded) hits the beefalo it loses domestication. It would also be better when other people likely hit my accidentally beefalo due to inexperience (and yeah I agree fix the force attack for beefalos in taming as well).

[Pig Princess]

5 hours ago, Evelo said:

Adding a Storage Saddle or an Armor saddle would be a huge boon to the saddle horn.

It won't because swapping saddles doesn't require saddlehorn, saddles don't loose durability in the process either (and I'm glad they do because I, for example, use default beefalo and swap glossammer and war saddles depending on situation).

[Horsheen]

On 9/8/2022 at 4:19 AM, stevmjon said:

the reason i don't domesticate beefalo is the amount of grass they need to be fed. it is way too high.

what i remember is needing a stack per day. i read this ages ago, so not sure if there have already been changes made.

Just....ride it

[Losparkeros]

On 9/8/2022 at 2:20 PM, Pig Princess said:

- not loose domestication on hit if other than bell-keeper players attack it. It's very frustrating to see all my progress reset just because somebody attacked my beef once or twice by accident or out of stupidity.

This. Plus the fact that those people also don't know how to shake it off once it aggroed them. Sometimes they just straight up try to kill your beef because "it's attacking them". And depending how bad they play, they either lower your taming progress to zero (beefalo killed them), or make you need to find another one (if you don't ragequit somewhere in between, that is).

[mr.wilson.BR]

On 9/9/2022 at 2:40 AM, goatt said:

2 major quality of life:

1. HP indicator. Currently, we only have one HP indicator, that is the red screen when the beefalo has ≤ 200 HP. Since we have increased boss' damage in recent patches, and added Celestial Champion, which deals massive damage in one go, the 200 HP notification is usually not effective in saving the beefalo from death. So I suggest beefalo should have two HP indicators at 200 HP and 600 HP.

2. Domestication progress indicator at 60%. Because tamed beefalo's domestication naturally decreases, and we have no idea how worse it is, we need a warning or a reminder that it's getting wild so that we can fix it. The indicator can be a message from examining beef, or a special animation.

 

Vanilla beefalo domestication is pretty much a dark unknown box, which is fine as is. But we need indicators or beefalo animations to warn us about beefalo's status just like the existing 200HP red screen, because a tamed beefalo require a major 2 hour+ effort. This effort deserves some minor QoL.

Yeah this, Honestly i don't think it would kill klei to just make a health meter for the beefalo that could be below your own stats because having to keep guessing exactly how much health it has is annoying (plus if you are in the sandstorm or lunar storms the effects make it significantly harder to see if your beefalo is hurt or not)

Loss of domestication with tamed beefalos are honestly rarely an issue because they lose it so slowly and are pretty much gain back the moment you take it for a walk (like seriously it's really hard to completely lose a tamed beefalo you'd have to completely ignore it for a couple of seasons and they don't even lose domestication when they're off screen)

Outside of the issue of not being able to see the beefalo's exact health i think beefalo taming is on a perfect spot, though could use some new additions like new saddles

a storage saddle could be nice, maybe at the cost of the beefalo being slower or only being possible with a tamed beefalo, it'd also be nice to make the brush not so RNG dependent? i mean sure ewecus are a lot more common in the late game where is most people tend to do beefalo taming but even then my luck just feels cruel finding these damn sheeps

[Mr_Vol]

I would like the ability to use a bugnet while ontop of a beefalo. 

[LinknAllie]

There's no "I don't really care option" so I picked yes.

[tigershot1031]

I just wish Klei would separate the beef and pork , and then add beef cuisine，preferably Warly's exclusive recipes.

of course we can't forget mutton.

[King.Bowser]

Of course they do! Domestication is a tedious, boring, long, risky and "gray" process, to a 5/10 result. Kley could rework entirely this thing and incorporate some mods.

[mima_]

On 9/8/2022 at 10:19 AM, stevmjon said:

the reason i don't domesticate beefalo is the amount of grass they need to be fed. it is way too high.

what i remember is needing a stack per day. i read this ages ago, so not sure if there have already been changes made.

i tame beef mostly using lightbulb, i usually map out my cave in summer while taming it so i never really use twig or grass too much.. well u can basically get tons of them while riding it anyway so it didnt really matter now. 
 

[ArubaroBeefalo]

i have tamed several beefalos and never wasted much twiggs, grass or whatever per day :/

[Capybara007]

ive seen no real problems mentioned about domestication in this thread

[abrocator]

Infinite salt lick made out of salt and thulecite or something stupid like that