Boat Skins are a ripoff.

[Theukon-dos]

3 hours ago, PeterA said:

That was my original justification for keeping it as a separate item. More customization is generally better for the players. Back when we started the skins system, character skins were going to be single pieces clothing, but we pushed for splitting things up so we could let the players mix and match clothing and head skins. I'm glad we did, we've seen so many great combinations of outfits. That said, the plank skins implementation fell short, and the Elegant rarity didn't make sense. 

Next week I'm going to look at changing this around. The tentative plan is

• remove the Emergency Exit item
• refund the full Elegant Spool value to people who own the Emergency Exit item
• include the plank art directly in the boat skin art, and apply the plank skin automatically when crafting a boat

In retrospect, I simply didn't give the plank skin enough thought and consideration. I definitely appreciate the feedback!

lol no, that's what happens when Peter doesn't get enough sleep. 
 

We were planning on making the nautical plank next week and making it an ensemble bonus item for owning the rest of the nautical collection, but now with the plan to merge the plank back in to the boat, we'll just include that automatically.

Thanks for being so direct and so quickly! And yeah, I do get the mentality behind wanting to be able to mix and match boats and planks. But yeah, probably not the best implementation of such a system.

 

Just out of curiosity, is there a reason we couldn't mix & match boats and planks while having them as one skin? As we both know, the planks are seperate objects from the boat. So it should be possible right? Or is the skin system too hacky to implement it as such. (Not judging btw. I know how game dev works.)

[hhh2]

21 hours ago, ALCRD said:

1350 for a plank skin .. wtf

Bargin what do you mean?

[BezKa]

5 hours ago, PeterA said:

lol no, that's what happens when Peter doesn't get enough sleep. 

Thank you for your hard work, sleep's important though

[Antynomity]

13 hours ago, PeterA said:

peter snip

I mean you can keep the nautical plank as an ensemble skin! You guys could do so plank skins would work like the starcaller twitch drop, where it reskins the starcaller and the mooncaller, like spears and staves, so it reskins both the spear and the staff, so you could still change the skin of the plank, just purchased/woven ones would be bound to boat skins instead, it would be great to have more ensemble skins/emotes, but if you don't keep the nautical plank as an ensemble it's totally fine, I just hope we will still be able to change the plank looks to be different from the boat skin, aka nautical boat with emergency exit etc.

[PeterA]

On 7/1/2022 at 9:24 PM, BezKa said:

sleep's important though

Tell that to the infant in my home, lol. 

[Auth]

1 hour ago, PeterA said:

Tell that to the infant in my home, lol. 

Do they have an email?

[PeterA]

On 7/1/2022 at 7:03 PM, Theukon-dos said:

Just out of curiosity, is there a reason we couldn't mix & match boats and planks while having them as one skin? As we both know, the planks are seperate objects from the boat. So it should be possible right? Or is the skin system too hacky to implement it as such. (Not judging btw. I know how game dev works.

Yup, that's how I'm implementing it now, you'll be able to mix and match plank skins with boats. Here's a quick preview of the upcoming Nautical plank mix-matching with the Wagstaff and normal boat. This will likely be going out in a patch tomorrow to Steam/WeGame and consoles shortly after.


We haven't figured out reskinning of boats yet with the clean sweeper, but hopefully we can find a solution for that.

[Hornete]

11 minutes ago, PeterA said:

We haven't figured out reskinning of boats yet with the clean sweeper, but hopefully we can find a solution for that.

I'm curious, what's the problem that currently stands in the way of trying to make boats reskinnable with the Clean Sweeper? Is it a technical problem or a design problem?

[PeterA]

1 minute ago, Hornete said:

I'm curious, what's the problem that currently stands in the way of trying to make boats reskinnable with the Clean Sweeper? Is it a technical problem or a design problem?

Someone else looked into it more than I did, but basically it stemmed from the boat not being selectable. We can work around that for mouse support, but controller support makes it a little more complicated. I think we might be able to add some custom logic for the clean sweeper when you're on a boat though.

[Hornete]

3 minutes ago, PeterA said:

but controller support makes it a little more complicated

Ahh I can totally see controller support being a bit finnicky to do, that clears some things up. Hope to see it fixed soon!

[Captain_Rage]

On a side note (it might have been mentioned before), Mast addons like the Lightning Conductor cannot be targeted by the Clean Sweeper once installed either. If those issues share etiology any fix will hopefully address this as well.

 

Edit:

Eloquence is a virtue.

[PeterA]

Heya, sorry for the delay on this, my household all got covid, so I was locked up for most of the week. The Emergency Exit item has been removed from people's inventory now, and the Spools have been returned to those who owned it, or had previously unraveled it.

Thanks for your patience on this!

[Owlrust]

22 minutes ago, PeterA said:

my household all got covid, so I was locked up for most of the week.

Hope you guys are doing alright, my household got covid not too long ago too and it definitely wasn't fun.

[Maxposting]

1 hour ago, PeterA said:

Heya, sorry for the delay on this, my household all got covid, so I was locked up for most of the week.

Understandable tbh, thanks for helping people.

[Terra B Welch]

5 hours ago, PeterA said:

Heya, sorry for the delay on this, my household all got covid, so I was locked up for most of the week. The Emergency Exit item has been removed from people's inventory now, and the Spools have been returned to those who owned it, or had previously unraveled it.

Thanks for your patience on this!

Glommer Buddy and I hope the best for you and your family Peter.

[goblinball]

8 hours ago, PeterA said:

 

Heya, sorry for the delay on this, my household all got covid, so I was locked up for most of the week. The Emergency Exit item has been removed from people's inventory now, and the Spools have been returned to those who owned it, or had previously unraveled it.

Thanks for your patience on this!

 

You do not need to apologize for the delay one bit, keeping ppl safe is unbelievably more important than virtual skins and spools.